US Constitution Shredded as Veto Threat Lifted
December 15, 2011, Submitted by: Ken Tweet
It’s official… the US defense funding bill - The 2012 National Defense Authorization Act allows American citizens to be arrested as terrorists on home soil and held indefinitely without trial. Americans can be arrested on home soil and taken to Guantanamo Bay under a provision inserted into the bill that funds the US military.
Barack Obama has abandoned a commitment to veto a new security law that allows the military to indefinitely detain without trial American terrorism suspects arrested on US soil who could then be shipped to Guantanamo Bay.
Wednesday, the White House said Obama had lifted the threat of a veto.
The long-established principle that the military is not used in domestic policing has been thrown out the window and extends the battlefield in the “war on terror” to US soil including US citizens.
“It’s something so radical that it would have been considered crazy had it been pushed by the Bush administration,” said Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch. “It establishes precisely the kind of system that the United States has consistently urged other countries not to adopt. At a time when the United States is urging Egypt, for example, to scrap its emergency law and military courts, this is not consistent.”
Rand Paul, a strong libertarian and US Senator, has said “detaining citizens without a court trial is not American,” “the terrorists have won”. “Really, what security does this indefinite detention of Americans give us? The first and flawed premise, both here and in the badly named Patriot Act, is that our pre-9/11 police powers were insufficient to stop terrorism. This is simply not borne out by the facts.”
Even Senator Dianne Feinstein, a strong democrat US Senator, said “Congress is essentially authorizing the indefinite imprisonment of American citizens, without charge,” she said. “We are not a nation that locks up its citizens without charge.”
Human Rights Watch said that by signing the bill Obama would go down in history as the president who enshrined indefinite detention without trial in US law. “The paradigm of the war on terror has advanced so far in people’s minds that this has to appear more normal than it actually is,” Malinowski said. “It wasn’t asked for by any of the agencies on the frontlines in the fight against terrorism in the United States. It breaks with over 200 years of tradition in America against using the military in domestic affairs.”
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To be expected, and eventually accepted by most of the people in this country. People in this country have stopped caring, a law gets passed and then most of the people forget about it and go about their daily routine. What is even sadder, even when some type of law or regulation affects them directly when it goes away, the legal hassle, most people again forget about it. This is how ANY government gains power, when the population loses interest in what is going on and is unwilling to put the time effort into doing something positive about, as MOST just don’t care. The statement that the terrorists won, should also be those in power of the government won, won huge with this.
Wow…guess its time to move …this is the most horrid thing ive read in awhile. indefinite detention for civilians for basically whatever reason they want to as long as they label you a terrorist…This is not exceptable by any means and I cannot believe anyone would vote for this act let alone the president not doing anything to stop it. Just goes to show that we lost this country and its founding constitutional rights along time ago and im saddened about what its become. I fought for this country as did many others but this is not what I had in mind. I fought for freedom from all threats but this is not what I fought for at all. Seems like more and more Its going backwards ..Well this will be my last post . Good day America..
Protesters in every capitol in the nation + economic failure on the horizon = a failed government under assault from its people. They see it coming and are doing their level best to intimidate you into submission. THIS is our government. It’s not legislation for the people, by the people and of the people….it’s to the people, against the people and in spite of the people. These miscreants inside our present government are not Americans caring for America…they are dictators caring only for themselves and will stop at nothing to oppress and dictate to us no matter what laws, constitution or bill of rights it has incinerate. The government is doing exactly what they have to do to prevent Americans from taking their dictatorship away from them and WILL KILL anyone who gets in their way. Home of the Brave??? We’ll see who has the cohonees to stand up to these traitors, these trespassers of American tradition and justice. Once some finally does defy the traitors, they will be portrayed as terrorists and treated as such. But we all will know better. What are you going to do when they start locking up YOUR terrorists family members and friends?
i will be ready when they come to my door ! it won’t be pretty but i will make a stand. i guess this post makes me a terrorist along with the 7 days of food supplies, survival gear, common sense and hatred for the U.S. government.
I just noticed this. Is that actually Obama giving everybody the bird? Is this a fudged picture? This sure says it all doesn’t it?
Obama showing us that we are number 1. Notice the middle finger.
Ya know, this is like something from a plot in a very bad movie. Far too many people in this country are guilty of complacency. They see this story and they say “wow aint that sumpthin” and flip to the next story. I see this as a violation of the constitution, Treason and an act of war against the citizenry of this country. Politicians are like diapers and totally useless, main stream media backs the government and the rest of us are left swinging in the breeze. Time is now not on your side, prepare for you families safety as best you can.
You are exactly right, Mike. People just don’t care enough. They figure that it will somehow ‘work out ok’, or that someone else will ‘take care of it’, or they believe that there’s no way that it would get ‘that bad’, or it won’t ever actually ‘affect them’. Also, the main stream media is all that most people see and hear, so, if the main-stream doesn’t report it much, then the average American won’t even be aware of it. It is the responsibility of every citizen to be aware of what their government is doing, but unfortunately today’s society and modern generations have been trained thoroughly in ‘the system’ to comply and ‘go along’. In a way, we’re doomed… On the other hand, past revolutions brought about change with a small percentage of patriots compared to the majority of the sleeping public. Hopefully this one will not be violent…
@All; While I would never be accused of “holding back”, just ask Ken & BI if you haven’t read some of my more excitable pontifications, I would caution you to mind your rhetoric, not because of eavesdroppers, that are certainly here, not for the listeners but for yourself. I hate what my government has become, I do not hate the government. The government is something that is supposed to be controlled by our involvement, honor, virtue, citizenship and our character. I would posit that the government becomes what we as citizens have allowed it to become, through inaction, complacency or just plain ignorance and laziness. Many people find it astonishing that Adolf Hitler was ELECTED, but indeed he was. I am saddened by the events that are unfolding before us. I see the possibility of sanity returning but I also see the possibility of significant cruelty and brutality being foisted upon us all. It will not be pretty if it comes to pass. It will not be romantic. It will not be a brave new world. It will be a broken world that will be in a shambles if the political suicide comes to pass that our country seems to be trying to commit. The hammer is cocked, and we, our country, are struggling over control of the the trigger and where to point the gun. We are in a life and death struggle. Just be sure you understand whom and what the enemy is. Think about it. Survive well. Enjoy.
“I smell a rat.” on reviewing the vast powers granted to the new Federal government, Patrick Henry. “Well, we’ll all go together when we go. Every hot-in-tot and ever Eskimo” Tom Lerher…. Boycott the elections or write in Guy Fawkes.
Greetings, All…” The Many people find it astonishing that Adolf Hitler was ELECTED, but indeed he was.” NOT!!! On this one I have to say that this statement is flawed. The facts are in the open. I am in agreement with everything else as goes sentiment there of… Fat chance but, get your representatives to fight as Virginia and a handful of other State, county, and local government ( Charged as being “Our” Civil Servants-Not Over Seer’s. ) have begun to succeed in so doing. Nullify the NDAA and all of the treasonous Acts signed by the Puppet now in OUR White House. Demand that the Articles of Impeachment be filed and if your Representatives don’t respond then They are not representing you!!! Vote the Free riders out. Politics isn’t supposed to be a career. There was a time that the law makers were lawyers, if not they had fought for our Rights. You can read about the 9% approval rating of todays congress; it comes down to the same numbers as the 10%-ish of the 538, coincidence I think not! Voter fraud aside… Try to vote the bums OUT!!! That is where the wheels of change will slowly make a difference… Then we could go the whole esoteric/existential route and mind power Them Out and you know that while it’s fun to have a go at a sitting Puppet, I’m talking about “Them” that reside behind the curtain… Then there is option number three which is far more proactive action by the citizenry… Throw the Bums Out! Boycott their access to their offices, rally at their fund raising dinners and speeches… You get the idea… Time to take action as the times are upon us. Life or … Survive-All… Today/Here/Now… Awareness means time to do something! P.S. Did you see the add/campaign speech by” IT” to vote black? ( Today is 02/24/2012 ) Samuel Jackson said he voted for Obama because he is black… Well the recessive gene traits may have given him a darker skin but, he is as black, as I am white… That is if we are to believe his family tree???
And to think I fell for that lying, double speak, and voted for him… Just plain disgusted with my lack of vision. The Hope was my prayer, no more belief without investigation… Again vote THEM OUT!!! If it’s possible? There comes a time when, as we see now, what we want is irrelevant! All that waits is a detention camp and a ditch after the gas chamber! I have solace in the knowledge that I killed my T.V. decades ago and went with the public rhetoric… Not again!!! I’m still a quick learn… Live, still, from FEMA Region number 1, Oath Keeper, Medicine Human, Once of the Stewards of this land. Your Otter-Walks on Two Feet has seen the future and as I don’t feed the negative flow except to show it’s contrary nature; I say to you that read this mind over matter… It has now become time that the new “owners” take the reigns of responsibility and care for our children’s, children’s, children. Oh, and about the picture, I take that personally… so back at you.. Survive-All…