The FBI has recently published a document which should have you concerned. In summary it is a potential major assault on the 1st Amendment (the part about freedom of speech).
I don’t recall where I first became aware of it (the FBI document). The source story is from Paul Craig Roberts, though it has been referenced on many sites since his article published.
The document’s essence is that “conspiracy theories” can motivate believers to commit crimes.
My inference: And therefore by association those who may speak or write what is deemed “conspiracy” may be considered a potential enemy of the state. Pre-Crime arrest. Perhaps Red-Flagged.
Official and Prevailing Explanations
The FBI document says that conspiracy theories “are usually at odds with official or prevailing explanations of events.”
Note the use of “official” and “prevailing.” Official explanations are explanations provided by governments.
Prevailing explanations are the explanations that the media repeats.
If a person doubts official explanations such as these, that person is a “conspiracy theorist.”
paulcraigroberts.org | An Open Invitation To Tyranny
Here’s the FBI document, redacted,
https://www.scribd.com/document/420379775/FBI-Conspiracy-Theory-Redacted#download
Mr.Roberts goes on to say, “Official and prevailing explanations do not have to be consistent with facts. It is enough that they are official and prevailing. Whether or not they are true is irrelevant. Therefore, a person who stands up for the truth can be labeled a conspiracy theorist, monitored, and perhaps pre-emptively arrested. “
Here’s my opinion and concern about this:
We Still Have The 1st Amendment, Right? (Maybe not so much…)
Yes, I agree that words can and do on occasion, bring on bad behavior in others. If I go out on the street and engage with a ‘triggerable snowflake’ with words which go against their political ideals (for example), that person may (if ‘triggered’ and emotionally uncontrolled enough), may punch me. Is it my fault or the attackers fault for punching me? Answer: The person who committed the assault – the ‘puncher’.
We are free in this country to speak words that challenge a notion or perceived truth, etc.. We’re free (or supposed to be free) to challenge “official and prevailing explanations”. I am free to speak harsh words if I wish. We have that right. Right?
The problem is, more and more people do not agree with that ‘right’. People are actually believing that we should NOT have the right to say things that ‘trigger’ them (for example).
The 1st Amendment protects our speech. We may be considered a jerk, a nut, or ‘whatever’ because of what we’re saying, but no one is forced to listen to us, right? They can walk away, albeit frustrated or angry about what they just heard or read. But it’s still the right of the person to speak it.
Setting the Stage | You May Be A Conspiracy Theorist
This FBI report sets the stage to further define a so called ‘conspiracy theorist’. The definition apparently will include anyone who doubts or challenges “official” explanations (aka government explanations). Additionally, anyone who doubts or challenges “prevailing” explanations (aka the mainstream media).
Here’s an example. Recently there was this very high profile and very rich pedophile named Epstein who was well connected to very powerful people around the world. When he ‘died’ in prison the other day, the “official” explanation AND the “prevailing” explanation was death by suicide. I immediately doubted that. And so did many others. So, therefor I suppose the FBI would consider me to be a conspiracy theorist? But wait, what did I just read this morning? Evidently it’s looking like he was murdered (surprise, surprise). You see how this works?
I could go on with MANY examples of former “conspiracy theory” which absolutely turned out to be the truth. It may often be a good thing to challenge “official” or “prevailing” explanations. To shine a light on the dark places looking for scrambling cockroaches. But apparently not according to today’s FBI.
I don’t know if the FBI report is simply good intentions with very obvious unintended bad consequences. But somehow I doubt it. This is not good for liberty.
In my estimation they are setting up definitions to further enhance actions they may choose to take, especially with the Patriot Act still in place. ANYONE, including any American who they define a “domestic terrorist” could be picked up without any legal recourse whatsoever. Bye bye.
Many people have already been silenced on the major platforms of today. But they’re evidently intent on continuing and expanding their attack on those who may challenge the “official” and “prevailing” explanations of today’s events, ideals, or ‘whatever’…
I’m Skeptical
I tend to be the type of person who is naturally skeptical. I may (and do) challenge some preconceived notions or political ideals that I may not agree with (or the “official” explanation of a given event). That’s called discourse. Freedom of expression. Might “they” define some things I may say as being a “conspiracy theorist”? That would just be expressing my opinion, right?
Maybe I’m being oversensitive to this. What do you think?
What country are we living in again?
The motto I live by: A skeptic is seldom, if ever, proven wrong. And now the FBI is correlating a “conspiracy” theorist/believer to a terrorist. How convenient. No thanks…I’ll cling to my guns, Bible, and motto. I trust myself, and I make more sense than the Feds do. “Hate speech” “Hate crime” BOTH of these radical, MSM incantations are unconstitutional garbage. Both are violations of our First Amendment, and if brought to SCOTUS, would be ruled as such. But see how they have both been pushed and installed into our local law enforcement and judicial system? “Book burning” “Censorship” Both of these radical actions are taking place right now — the tech giants that rule-the-world (Google, YouTube, Facebook). None of these corporate behemoths have been challenged for anti-trust violations. “Thought crimes” And now, the FBI is now floating this around, just as the “hate crimes” began. Soon, “thought crime” violations will be instilled in our law enforcement and judicial system, just as the unconstitutional “hate crime” and “hate language” has done. Wait til the FBI releases their next document outlying the correlation between terrorism and any gun-owner who talks guns. The Deep State is VERY afraid of us and what… Read more »
MT,
Yes, yes, yes!
They link one thing to the next: disagreement with the norm gets labeled as hate speech or Conspiracy Theory.
Hate speech becomes “supremacist/possible threat”, which is a short step to “violent tendencies”, which is then cause for removal of personal protection rights. Ditto with conspiracy theory, which is then linked to “mental illness/instability”, which has the same result. None of it bodes well for our Constitutional Rights.
You got it, SoCalGal.
And America is only 1 generation away from completely pushing the First and Second Amendments into oblivion. The brainwashing is nearly complete….the Boomers need to die off first.
MT,
Completely agree. I have to wonder how many people under the age of 40-50 understand why ALL of us are supposed to have these rights? Or what happens when we The People no longer have those freedoms? We all know that once they
are gone there’s no getting them back.
I have no idea what kids are taught these days… revisionist history? Do they even have Civics classes any more? Do kids learn why we had a Revolutionary War? Or the WW’s? Or just the civil war and civil rights? They all seem to know plenty about some version of that part of our history. Sigh.
A former low ranking FBI agent has been on MSNBC suggesting that Trump supporters are akin to terrorist groups. They are working very hard on silencing and obstructing Trump rallies/free speech, freedom to assemble. The Supreme court is also in their crosshairs.
Speaking of SCOTUS, how about those leftie dems saying that since some decisions went against them that obviously the court has been politicized and threating the court that if it doesn’t fix itself, they will…is that not the definition of politicizing the court?
THAT,
Is the definition of tyranny.
Conspiracy theorist? If you don’t want me to visualize my own answers, quit trying to convince me of a series of events that would make M. Night Shyamalan shake his head and say “Nah, ain’t no way they’ll go for that story”.
It ain’t like I blame them for their cover-ups, but I do resent being taken for an idiot.
Seems to me about the only way to track peoples theories is with this internet thing. Perhaps subscriptions of some sort. I think the time is here, or past to be very careful with what one puts out on the net. Remember gray is a good color.
Country, Grey only works on the masses while traveling around the general public. Everything is monitored now. Guess why all of those data centers are so damn huge! Every human on Earth can be found — eyes in the sky (satellites, drones, planes) are capturing the movements of Amazonian tribesmen as they forage and hunt in the jungle. Do you really believe you can be grey? Cameras are in every store (in a variety of the store’s locations), cameras are mounted on traffic signals, light poles, buildings, your computer, your cell phone… any WiFi device, including the infamous ‘smart’ meters — all are tracking you. Newer car/truck models (Onstar is a control device, for God’s sake), vehicle license plates, your credit/bank/store card usages monitor and record every move you make, every item you purchase. (How long before the actual drivers license hold a chip to track your every move?) The only bits of ‘internet rebel’ still available to the general public at this time are encrypted documents and VPNs. And our government is working hard to remove availability to us because TPTB must have a record of everything we do, say, buy, eat, and think. Wait til the FBI decides… Read more »
Modern Throwback, for what it is worth, raw data is raw data. It takes at least at this time Human Interpretations (with all it’s flaws) to make useful data for other, for now Human decision makers to act on. I was thrilled that the AI they deployed recently for this data mining task failed so badly. Seems everybody in that 3 letter agency was a Terrorist 🙂 Don’t make it easy as the Nail that Protrudes will get hammered. Even George Washington had to LIE to a British Soldier about his identity as to escape accidental capture one time. His humble farmer act worked that time. I understand the Patriots recovered his famous sword and frock coat from the farmers hay pile later. Figure out ways to lower your profile, again as above. Have extra “Tools” to surrender as needed as to be a “Good Citizen”. Maybe the Police/Soldier “Obeying Orders” has less interest in fully doing this duty so make it easy for him/her to forget the rest of his/her orders. Being humble is a HARD Task for a lot of us but a humble person might be less of a threat to that Police/Soldier and less harsh actions… Read more »
me2, Make no mistake, all of that data is collected for future use. You projected “useful data” — that’s a misnomer. Data is nothing until there is need for it, and just like guns, data can be used for good results or bad results. Left alone, data is nothing. Put the human element in with data and we now have some form of perspective. Data becomes information when it is INTERPRETED in some manner. That won’t take place unless there’s a need. Then that information may be correct, or may be wrong — it is dependent upon the perspective, aka data interpretation. To interpret data, all that is required is some type of a search query or a basic algorithm — nothing more. But to get a ‘result’ — a subset of that data, who is responsible to do the data query, the data analysis? Is there bias in that analysis? Data collection from ‘the eyes in the sky’ are what the legal system uses to catch and prosecute a suspect. When that data collection shows the facts, it is valuable information. When data is misinterpreted or manipulated, whether intentional or not (think global warming and all of that manipulated… Read more »
Modern Throwback we seem to agree about data, maybe terminology differences. “You wrote: “Have extra “Tools” to surrender as needed as to be a “Good Citizen”. That is highly insulting. At our home, we will NEVER surrender our unalienable Rights.” Not seeking to be insulting MT, just pointing out when confronted by superior firepower like a full on SWAT Team, Police Snipers and an armored vehicle it maybe better to be humble and “Surrender” a little to survive to gain the chance to do something useful later. I did say “Extra Tools” so hopefully if you get Red Flagged you still have “Gardening Tools”. I did say also how hard it is to humble ourselves in order to survive for next time. Proverbs 16:18 speaks to that. Sun Tzu spoke about this in his well regarded book the “Art of War” as to “Where you are strong look weak as to deceive the enemy for a successful strike”. Deception is spoken about in “The Art of War” in nearly every page. Data is a lot like that old computer saying GIGO Garbage IN Garbage OUT. I cannot stop data collection, even DuckDuckGo has been said to sell our data to… Read more »
me2,
You are conflating the issue: gun confiscation through voluntary surrender or SWAT raid?
SWAT raid introduces the element of surprise attack with a very high probability that there would be no voluntary surrender of firearms.
Gun confiscation takes time, either through some form of voluntary surrender or apprehension by some legal methodology (via Courts, LEOs, etc_). Gun confiscation through a voluntary surrender program will only be successful if everyone is the ‘good citizen’ that you project yourself to be, or at least suggest that everyone becomes. If all American gun owners did as you suggest, We The People have lost the Nation.
So, no. HELL NO.
We have our Bill of Rights that Americans died for. We have our unalienable Rights that have come directly from God. These are non-negotiable.
@MT,
“We have our Bill of Rights that Americans died for. We have our unalienable Rights that have come directly from God. These are non-negotiable.”
Amen to that!
Modern Throwback I had to look up the word “conflating” interesting word. Two ideas into one concept. Maybe I am communicating poorly. Let me explain a bit please. No offence is intended, please remember that. When the recent New Jersey Red Flag Fatality occurred an older gentleman around my age was awoken by the police knocking on his door and he responded with a pistol in his hand and refused to surrender it to the police. He died from the police response. Seems the Police did ASK first and did not need a full on SWAT Team to do it. BTW I did not notice ANY Public OUTCRY about this act of “Police Brutally” did you? Maybe folks around that neighborhood ALREADY have given “Silent Consent” to the killing of a “Crazy” Gun Owner??? I’ve already spoken at length about the dangers of a Media created “Silent Consent” like the Good Germans watching their Jewish neighbors being hauled off by Soldiers…. Now if the Police choose to deal with you as a REAL Threat Red Flag pickup like some of the “In a pile of brass” folks I BET that visit will have the whole shebang as I described and… Read more »
me2, I am not familiar with the NJ homeowner event. That is an isolated incident which does illustrate my point about surrendering gun rights as a targeted group of residents/citizens, a locale, a State, etc. In general, when people discuss the loss of the 2nd Amendment and the “surrender” of firearms, it is in the broad sense where a gun-grab, or gun sweep, takes place. If a suspect/person is to be apprehended, surrendering a firearm or other weapon is part of the detaining or arrest process. That is an entirely different scenario and was never part of my original point. Look up the Deerfield, Illinois gun grab of April 2018: the town decreed that gun owners had 60 days to surrender their “assault weapons” or face fines of $1000 per day per gun. Residents were instructed to either sell their guns, transfer the ownership to someone who lives outside the village, surrender their guns to Deerfield’s sheriff, or begin paying the fines. Note: no ‘violent’ threats, hence this is a quasi-volunteer surrender of specific types of firearms. The outcome: Residents did not comply. The residents fought the unconstitutionality of the ordinance, and the Court declared it was unlawful. In March… Read more »
@country,
And thus the conundrum. When one, and then many, accepts it, then we lose. Eventually. Though when one revolts against it, then one is squashed, at least initially.
As one who is a few years away from becoming a senior, senior-hood, or second childhood, I see the best way to survive is to become so boring..if one has to speak to a snowflake, talk about aches, pains, doing the laundry, etc. I rarely speak to a 20 something and it is mostly at the cash in stores, with the boring old lady type of talk ‘oh these towels are so pretty’ type of thing. I notice all the you tube videos whereby it is difficult to understand what they are talking about as they do not finish sentences, flip from one idea to another, etc. In general, people over 50 are considered old. At work I only deal with those I need to. Of course I must take all the ‘politically correct’ online courses but just let the computer run until the course has completed its run after a few politically correct clicks of the mouse. E-certificates magically appear and can be emailed to the manager…good little surf has adopted the new PC vision.
Somewhere along the way, I think from some teacher in school and from some other adult, I recall being advised to smile and nod, keep my own counsel, and then think and do what I wished (quietly). Seems a sad state of life, this is again “good advice”.
– Wasn’t there a movie “Minority Report”? Doesn’t this all sound somehow familiar? Have to agree with Jane Foxe, ” I recall being advised to smile and nod, keep my own counsel, and then think and do what I wished (quietly). Seems a sad state of life, this is again “good advice”.
I fear it is too late for some of us.
– Papa S.
Yes indeed. That movie keeps coming into my mind when this type of thing surfaces. Funny how Hollywood sometimes will precede reality. Makes you wonder, right? But that’s conspiracy! OMG, several MRAP’s just pulled down my street! Oh NO!!… 😉
Nah, that’s not scheduled until next week. I’m reminded of an old sayings from the late 60s early 70s. “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they are not out to get you.”
only the paranoid survive
Pioneer Woman,
Armed, trained, prepped, and paranoid survive.
Unarmed, untrained, not prepped, and oblivious? Well, I’m sure the government will take care of them………………..soylent green don’t grow on trees you know.
We went through the same thing years ago when they published the domestic terrorist document and listed all the things like military service etc.
In fact we took it and ran the checklist in my office and we all were bad guys according to them.
Indicators are just that. That’s not positive proof it’s an indicator of a possibility. If I’m out brush hogging in the 100 degree heat in western Oklahoma and have a red bandanna hanging outta my left pocket does that make me a blood gang member or ANTIFA? Both use them as symbols but neither are proof. The other factors must be in line with the direction you are taking it.
Believing or exploring a conspiracy theory doesn’t make you a domestic terrorist. It makes you a free thinker. It will take many other indicators and ACTIONS to make that stick.
You will find very few LEOs take this stuff seriously or even read it. A lot of it is done by analysts who aren’t anything.
They are not the be all end all that everyone listens to that the press pretends they are. They in fact like many other organizations on ALL sides have agendas.
Matt, with the increase in SWAT raids for very minor infractions (or legal errors), and the increase in property seizures due to cash transactions by some businesses, I’m unable to ‘trust’ the power that agencies have. The Patriot Act enabled unconstitutional actions to take place against American citizens….what we are now watching are escalated moves against us by rogue elements within County, State, and Federal governments. These unconstitutional actions are intentional.
Modern Throwback
I don’t think you should trust them, me or anyone.
I’ve been local, fed and served on 2 teams.
No one is without fault. Mistakes have been made and deliberate acts have been taken.
It’s a balancing act to keep things in the middle.
You might be surprised to hear the number of things I disagree with or find wrong. The flip side of that is The People in every single case asked for it. As we’ve all heard “careful what you ask for cause you might just get it”.
Lots of change is needed.
– Matt,
We took that same list and it was amazing how many of the things on the checklist a couple of us hit. All of us hit at least a couple. Of course, a month or so after 9/11, I had a letter from the U.S. Marshalls’ Service asking if I would be interested in applying for a position as a Sky Marshall. I had occasion to talk with one while we were crossing the pond a few years before, and I chose to decline the offer. Wish I had kept the letter, though.
– Papa S.
In my opinion, The Patriot Act should be finished. Give us our rights back. But, guess what? That’s not gonna happen. Why? Because once you give up your rights, you don’t get them back. Period. I understand the knee-jerk reaction back then. And I’m not going to get into the conspiracy of that (because the men-in-black may show up). But it is a giant loop hole to bag anyone they want to set up. At least in my estimation.
Ken,
Agreed… isn’t there a phrase something like: Show me the man, and I’ll find you the crime.
I know I’ve written this before on another of your threads (perhaps a while ago now), but I know quite a few people who think it’s no big deal that they have no privacy. The usual thought on that is that they figure they have nothing to hide, so they are fine. I have tried to move some people off that position, a couple opened their minds, most said they won’t worry about what they can’t control (or something to that effect). I’ve stopped wasting my breath.
So Cal Gal,
https://modernsurvivalblog.com/current-events/if-you-have-nothing-to-hide/
Thanks for the link, Lauren!
Thanks Lauren! 👍
Matt,
What bothers me is the apparent and/or potential political aspect to this. Who gets to decide (for example), and under what specific ‘rules’ or defintions? While from your and my perspective we would like to believe that logic and other reasonable factors ‘should’ apply, who’s to say what might result under certain political regimes that may be in power at the time? (or the ‘deep state’ behind the scenes who really run ‘the show’ to a large extent)
Good people may easily reason with themselves that it’s all for the best. They would never come for me because I’m a good person doing the right thing. But when that sociopathic regime comes to power in Tyranny, then what?
It’s all just food for thought. I would like to think there are more reasonable minds looking at this than otherwise. That said, there’s a reason why the 1st Amendment to the Constitution exists. And that is to protect we the people from tyranny (which is all backed up by the 2nd Amendment).
No argument from me. Like I said changes are needed. You can’t make them though with The People asking for more at every turn. Soon as anything happens The People want more done. To do that you give up something.
Shooter comes out of a mosque they want the mosque monitored. The mosque gets shot up they want that group monitored. The monitor messes up they want government oversight. The government messes that up and suddenly we need a new agency to control them. Meanwhile The People continue to feed the information sponge called social media that is also misused. What did The People demand? Government oversight.
Everyone is pointing at .gov but no one is pointing at themselves.
And no once you’ve lost rights they don’t come back or rarely anyway. There is a few cases.
I agree. “We” are to blame, at the end of the day. Although I don’t include myself in most of the “We” attitude that has brought this upon us. It’s a deeper thicker plot. But again, that might be construed as conspiracy…
Sorry I couldn’t hear you Bigfoot was howling again at the Area 51 green guy on the triple laser side band ham about contrails seen over the JFK ordeal then we heard rotowash from a black Blackhawk marked with UN and a sickle on the tail so I called up my buddy for cover but he was busy helping mossad keep one alive in the Bermuda Triangle from getting arkansided cause he has the missing emails obtained from the illuminate under the NWO control. The weather here has been rough to cause we are at war with Nevada too. It’s always something when I’m working on my light bending suit inspired by Nessie from that one time when I wore transparent foil instead of the real silver and the mind waved got into me.
Did you actually see Bigfoot? I hope you got a picture!
Yep, for the most part it aint a “we” thing, its a them, i dont remember having a hand in any of the decisions, the representatives who are supposed to represent me do NOT, and basicly have no hand in nor say about any of it,
So here i sit eating my sesame snacks, drinking a medicinal tea for the aches and pains and hope like hell i can stay out of sight and out of mind for the rest of my days. We shall see how that works out.
It was a societal decay thing. But yes, many of us didn’t participate in that. But we’re living within it.
Mummms the word, but
Epstein was murdered.
Your right to call ME a ‘conspiracy theorist’, will land ME in lock up?
Of course those that tried to convince, those wrong, that the world wasn’t flat,….
we’re they, too, considered ‘conspiracy theorists’?
God Bless America…..
…… that’s All we got left.
….And that looks pretty bleak
Wait, wait just a minute… you mean, do you really mean, the world is not flat? OMG!
All joking aside, yes, it’s a pretty sure bet that Epstein was murdered.
Ken
Hold on….calm down
It is just a theory…..
…but then again, I fart rainbows and sell oil from a snake…..
Do you find Skittles at the end of your fart rainbow?
Theres a few blogs, i just cant read anymore, they have been yelling about this conspiracy and that conspiracy for over a decade now that i have followed, after a while it gets to be a bit much, i open a link off a sirlte like Steve Quayle and some i just close right off the bat, not even worth reading as they say over and over and over,,, chinese army in mexico and sleeper cells in every town and spetnaz throughout the country,,,,
🙄
concur, and my brother forwards every damn one of them to me.
Kula
Yep, I know what you mean.
Some articles a person takes with a grain of salt.
There was a lot of past blabber of Camp Grayling being a FEMA Camp,. UN vehicals, etc.
We hit that area once, twice a year. I have yet to see anything out of place.
Doesn’t mean, I don’t have my eyes wide open within the surrounding area.
Keep in mind that, in the old Soviet Union, questioning “official” narratives would mark one out as “mentally ill” and thus a candidate for involuntary commitment to a “reeducation facility” or, if the level of questioning rose to a certain level, exile to the gulag. In this country we’re not quite there yet but it’s pretty plain to see that’s where it’s headed.
That’s what red flag laws are for
London Prepper,
Yes I agree. It all lines up.
By the way, it’s nice to have the perspective from someone outside the US. Glad that you found our blog.
Frank,
I agree. It has been a slow and stead creep for some time now. Although it is seemingly speeding up. It all started with so called “political correctness” speech, which is now thoroughly indoctrinated into our younger generations.
I reject any and all political correctness. I have the right to be offensive, just as you have the right to be offended. Free speech is more important than your feelings. What they don’t get is that so called “hate speech” is exactly the speech that needs protecting. If the shoe were on the other foot…
YES THIS IS A DIRECT THREAT to freedom of speech and here on the internet yahoo blocks comments all the time so what if anything can be done about it ?
Talk to people face to face..for one thing. Every form of on-line communication can be manipulated, recorded, altered, blocked, edited….
Just a thought. Never believe in the stories, where some new Intelligence activity is reported to be an abject failure. It is in the Intel community’s interest for people to think they are all a bunch of inept clowns and a bunch of fools.
In fact, events are staged to enhance this notion of failure and incompetency. The more our targets believe they have nothing to fear, the better, as they will not think they have to go the extra mile to protect themselves from us idiots.
Ision,
Sssshhhhhhh….
Wow, that was fun.
To Matt in Oklahoma: I like your last posting. It hit just about every conceivable conspiracy theory I ever heard of. It was painful for me because I snorted beer out my nostrils.
I just got off work so I will go back to playing with my dog and spinning the fat cats on my wood floor…after I get another beer and turn off my computer for the night.
From this posting, somebody out there will call me an alcoholic. I am not an alcoholic because I do not go to AA meetings.
We The People have allowed Federal elected representatives to become more like royalty than representatives. They lie and we all allow them to get away with it and it has resulted in us allowing them to systematically remove The Constitution.
One thing I believe is that once a person retires and is out of the main-stream workforce, the mass indoctrination will be greatly reduced. No forcing politically correct courses on retired people as older folks have an option to greatly disengage from society. No doubt the snowflakes will not bother with people they deem to be old, as anything older will be out of their league. I do believe that snowflakes will pick more on their own generation to keep them in line and I see more ideology based workforce hiring, societal espionage, etc. Older people will however need to ensure that the next generation of rulers does not reduce or remove our pensions and health-care benefits that we paid for during OUR working years as they try to remove us from society for the benefit of their own self-entitled brat cohorts.