What’s your gut telling you? Will Trump come through with a second term as president?
Only the electoral college or the various state legislatures can declare a candidate the winner. To base this decision on network vote totals and projections and to call Biden the “president-elect” is irresponsible.
72 million Americans voted for Trump
Most of those voters are quite upset given the apparent voter fraud which seems to have favored Biden in multiple significant ways.
The Trump team is fighting in the court systems. There have been some favorable rulings which may lead to positive results for Trump.
The Biden Crime Family Cartel (sorry libs, that’s what they are, in my opinion) is 100% backed by ALL of mainstream who has declared him the president-elect. Though the mainstream news media knows that it’s not up to them to declare a victor — low information voters don’t have a clue. The deciders are the electors of each state (December 14th) or the state legislatures. There is a clear process for this in the Constitution.
There are a number of paths (at this moment) that could lead to a second Trump term as President of the United States.
Powerful Forces Against Trump
However, my personal opinion is this… I’m not so sure…
The “deep state”, the CIA, NSA, and the world’s global elite are EXTRAORDINARY POWERFUL. I often lump them all together as “the cabal”. They are expert at taking down governments around the world. For example CIA’s “Hammer” and “Scorecard” have apparently been used around the world to influence elections. And apparently they’re using it right here in conjunction with “Dominion Voting Systems”.
By the way, did you know that Nancy Pelosi’s Chief of Staff Is Chief Executive and Feinstein’s Husband a Major Shareholder at Dominion Ballot Counting Systems?
We also know that Dominion has ties to the Clinton Foundation.
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”
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[ Read: Computer System Known To Be Defective Is Tallying Votes – IN 30 STATES! ]
There are LOTS more reasons why this election needs to be scrutinized before the electoral college meets December 14th. Not the least of which is to instill some resemblance of confidence in the voting system! Without it, we are a banana republic. I won’t get into it all here in this post. There’s PLENTY to be found online – though NONE of the mainstream (of course) is reporting on ANY of it.
Will Trump Get a Second Term?
So, with all of the presumption out there that the Biden Crime Family is about to enter the White House later in January, what do YOU think? What is your gut telling you at this point? Does Trump stand a chance at this point?
MAGA March, Washington D.C., 11/14/2020
States could refuse to release electoral votes to Biden stopping him from reaching 270, But the states have become addicted to Fed handouts and money rules this sick world. Trump has a 25% chance due to system corruption. Trump should have drained the swamp on day one, instead not one top official went to jail.
I know this will get down voted but you know I’m right.
EliWags,
I’ll be the first to upvote your post because I agree!
I give it 50-50 at this point. To me, it looks like there is enough eveidence that the fraud occured, but what is the remedy? SCOTUS can not give the election to anybody, and there certainly is not time to have a re-do..
There is plenty of evidence, but the SCOTUS has proven (and stated) that they follow the will of the people and NOT the constitution. Right now, the “will of the people” has come to mean the will of the media.
Lauren,
Sad but true.
I don’t trust Roberts of SCOTUS one iota.
Desert
You are not the only one. Scuttlebutt has it he is controlled by his shares in FB and a few other large corporations. Instead of getting a justice we were handed a bill of goods by Bush who put him there. mho
I’m 50/50 too. This could go to the Supreme Court. Where they will rule that the election is invalid due to fraud. At that point it will be sent to the congress and senate for a vote.
If every State gets one vote and 30 States are held Republicans and 19 by Democrats. They have to vote down party lines, they have no choice due to the 12th Amendment and then the Senate votes for the Vice President.
I think they have chosen the route this will take. President Trump will not win at all costs, whether that be murder, intimidation, lying, hacking, false flags, nothing is off limits.
I am hopeful he has a game plan for this but the way the media has played this if Trump does win his second term is going to be a CF of violence in the streets like the USA has never seen.
Pretty telling though the whole “office of the president elect” business. It’s like they know it’s a lie so they have to make it big. The more they can convince the public Biden has already won and the longer it takes the bigger the fallout if President Trump pulls this off.
Stay positive and mentally prepare for every possibility.
I agree. If the world “powers that be” have decided Biden is going to be President, then it’s a done deal. They’ll take out Trump if they have to, so I’m not too keen on trying to force the issue. Better to be alive and a civilian again, than to be in the history books as another President Kennedy or Lincoln, etc.
The Powers That Be, some not of this world, evil resides in both the physical and spiritual worlds as well as the Good.
I absolutely agree. If Trump comes out on top, I think it will be by God’s grace to these United States. I would not blame him, though, if He’s turning His back on us (as He did the Israelite nation in times past). I do appreciate Trump fighting for us to the last, exposing all the fraud. Whether or not that makes a difference remains to be seen. It seems the Deep State doesn’t necessarily care about broken laws and fraud.
Sarkin
I quite agree! Since the MSM has declared Biden the winner if, and I repeat if, Trump is successful in proving the voter fraud and corruption we have seen you could have two people and parties declaring themselves the winner and president of the united states. Even if SCOTUS decides for Trump (not a certainty) the Dems will not accept it, this will start the violence you are talking about. With AOC already planning to start an enemies list and a reconciliation committee (read reeducation camps) being talked about this will be the end of the US as we know it. Violence will spread until there is no safe place.
Not a chance. I think Trump can prove some illegal actions and maybe turn one State or even two if the Georgia recount goes his way but, Biden at 290 now is too big a divide.
The Republicans may avoid having the swing vote in the hands of Harris but maybe only by one vote in the Senate.
It is going to be a long four years.
Already the press is beginning to complain that Biden and team are not allowing any real questions. Why would anyone think Biden’s Presidency would be any different than his campaign.
I blame the Republicans in office for not all being more aggressive in supporting Trump over the last three years. Damn RINO’s did not encourage the citizens to be more vigilant about the corruption going on, so the public just went on enjoying their bread and circus.
Beware of Romney,,,,,,false republican
The SCOTUS will not rule in favor of Trump for fear the left will riot and burn the cities to the ground. Robert’s is a liberal and I have no faith in Kavanaugh as he is a globalist. They realize Trump supporters will be angry but will not riot and pillage so they will choose “what’s best for the country’s interest” not what is right or legal so therefore they will solidify that mob rules as opposed to law and order.
“Justice” is a fallacy that is thrown around to illicit sympathy for a cause but is seldom found in the courts or the halls of Congress.
then let em burn em down and DO NOT LET EM LEAVE THOSE CITIES UNTILL THEY CLEAN UP THE MESS AND REPAIR EVERYTHING
Both sides want him to win…… for different reasons. I am not talking about the “tools of fools” here but those with an agenda. Ours… Liberty. “Theirs”….. quick destruction. But “They” will settle for the slow road to hell with Biden / Harris. Win or lose for us. Win – win for them. A house divided will not stand.
As a side-note: Please investigate what Kevin Shipp has to say (2 part presentation) on what is actually arrayed against us in the natural. I chose the Supernatural. Psalm 91
Trump always wins.
Guess I have more faith in current President then the rest of you.
Have none of you learned one of the reasons he is who he is, NOT a quitter.
It is Veterans Day, the day so many gave their all so YOU & I could be FREE. Yet I am picking up the under current where by many are ready to toss the towel for another day. Well, we as a nation may not have that ‘other’ day afforded to us-America.
I need a time out before I get really POed over this subject. Do not care if you agree with me or not!
Thanks Antique Collector. I needed someone to remind me why I voted for this man. The fat lady ain’t sung yet.
AMEN!!!
Antique Collector, I agree 1000%.
Trump has openly stated that he is not their target – we are. And he is just in the way. After all they have thrown at him, he still fights to stand in that portal to defend us from their plans. So I shall not move from standing behind him no matter how long this war rages on.
I agree!
I am not about to wave the white flag of surrender in the face of so much evil and corruption being exposed. If we do not resist the obvious evil in our day, then who will?
This is our generation’s time in history to demonstrate whether we have the backbone to hold the line and support our President Trump in his fight to drain the swamp, or whether we choose to be compliant sheeples and let the lying media continue to gaslight us so we think we lost this election.
No way am I going to roll over for the lying media and evil left-wing wackos! The Founding Fathers had a backbone and a sincere faith that freedom fighters would win over tyranny. They were tenacious and never gave up. That’s the key to win, as President Trump has repeatedly stated. Bravo, President Trump!
Spoiler alert: President Trump wins re-election!
Gardner I agree whole heartily 110% Thank you for your service brother!
AC,
Dont get me wrong, I want Trump to win. I have prayed repeatedly for the truth to be revealed, for the cheats to be exposed.
But these are the same people who have gotten away with the Russia crap and everything else. I know Trump is not a quitter, but there is so much stacked against him. I’m afraid to get my hopes up.
And I will be the first to admit I was wrong if he finds a way to set this right.
So Cal Gal –
It is indeed David vs. Goliath. They’ve shown us their size, openly displayed their pomposity by not hiding their actions and want the confrontation to cement their place.
But remember that David sat out in a field honing his skill with a slingshot to stave off predators that would consume his herd. Trump has honed his skills in a courtroom to fend off adversaries. To both it was just a normal day at the office. And each gained conviction in themselves in the process. Tiny little David boldly stated “I shall slay you and feed your head to the birds.” And a business man from New York said “I will drain the swamp.”
Trump has the experience for the fight at hand. He holds the boldness to stride onto the field. He only lacked the five smooth stones to place into the slingshot. Yet look what Ken has found in the way of stones, the ones MSG12B uncovered, what you unearthed. The stones are all around, in plain view, just like the one’s God placed in David’s path. So in all honesty, I give Trump a far greater success rate than the 75% on this poll because when darkness threatens, light will come bursting in.
Keep the faith! Even today, giants can fall.
Hallelujah, M’Lynn. And praise God! For now, we trust in Him and Him alone. Our good, His glory!
AC
You go, girl!!
Trummmmpp card
AC,
Trump will win another 4 yrs. I dont think he would have taken up this fight unless he knew he could win it. Yes he wants to expose it all like he has been with the media, etc. If he thought it was a impossible win then he would have conceded and tried to save face for his future and family.
He is public enemy #1 in so many Americans eyes and politicians they will destroy and probably arrest him once he is out. Just like they will do to those who support him.
Many here say the powers to get rid of him are very strong and I agree. But the are just as many with dollars and power that are backing him. We just don’t hear from them.
Tell ACDH Happy Veterans Day and I Thank you both for your service and support.
A&O
11HE9
Thank you for the Veterans Day wish to dh(& me). May you have had a day of family & friends letting you know that truly appreciate what you did for this nation.
I voted 25% chance. I agree with previous comments about this being too big a hill to climb. I think there will not be enough votes to overcome enough shortfalls created in several states.
The media will continue to portray these legal battles as signs that a Trump doesn’t have evidence, that he won’t leave office peacefully, that he cares more about power than our country. They are already making these arguments, and half the country is all in.
I also think no one wants to be responsible for the riots that will follow Trump being declared the winner – half our country will consider it an “overturn” and among that half of the country are many with a “ burn it down” mentality.
IMO, the odds are more like 5-10% for a second term for President Trump.
Agreed about the violence. I hate it, though, when the bully wins and is allowed to bully.
We can’t be intimidated by the threat of violence to be silenced or bullied.
Any attempts at violent temper tantrums when President Trump is declared the official winner will be immediately squelched. This time the democrat governors will not have the option to stand down because I believe President Trump will use federal force to put down the insurrection decisively and once and for all. The violent wackos don’t stand a chance.
I went 50/50 on the poll, but either way it goes, I still look for s–t to hit the fan no matter what happens. If Trump succeeds in another term, then the crap that happened the first time around will look like a picnic and If Biden does make it, then he and cornies will will make things really bad for everyone ( Republicans and the like ), he has already stated that there will be a national mask mandate, a total lock down nation’ wide, banning,or out lawing of all firearms ( his words, anything that can be used to hurt somebody or something ). So get ready to grab your rear end and hang. Either way manure is going to hit the fan.
let me just say that if there is a national mask mandate, mine will be made of mesh. Has anyone else noticed that the masks worn by college football coaches seem to be some sort of mesh? You can see their faces through them.
Chipmunk, my wife’s hairdresser made one out of a sexy bra. Haven’t decided to take one from wife or just go buy one. 😈
the funny thing, is she is freaked out about this scamdemic.
I made one out of cheesecloth. Wear it as a chin strap.
John 18:40 “And media shouted back; NO! Not this man! We want Barabbas..eh, Biden”
Ken, I gotta say, you got B__LZ to make a post like this. Maybe you should be running for office. On a serious note, I give it a 50% chance. Trump has way too many enemies in high places for him to pull it off. That’s not saying I don’t want it to happen but I have to look at it realistically. The MSM and some of the largest corporations in America/world are against him. China has the Democrats in their pocket as they make billions on this virus. Pfizer is set to make a trillion dollars on the vaccine. I believe at this point a Senate majority is our best bet – hope.
What I will say here isn’t related to the article, but I tell it anyway. My niece by marriage is a very nice looking woman, very well educated who has never had to work a day in her life ( due to her father’s trust set up for her before he passed ) and the only time she has sweat would have been because the air conditioner stopped working. she has 8 yrs of schooling and she and her husband are both government workers in DC, when Trump was elected the first time she cried for 8 to 10 hrs because Trump won and Hillary lost. She has now posted on FB, that she has never been more proud of America because Biden has been elected and Trump that clown has been kicked out. Needless to say that I disagree with her in more ways than one. Just my two cents.
Allie,
remember her words and when the SHTF, hopefully you will get the chance to recite them to her as you close the door in her face.
I voted 50/50 chance of winning.I wish I could say 100 %, but I just don’t see it that way.The steep hill to Trump’s victory is paved with extremely powerful and rich enemies of the country.
Unfortunately the opposition has almost total media control and that is what most of the folks watch and absorb.
The republican party’s shown themselves to be a gaggle of gutless air heads for the most part and I have little confidence in them.
We continue to prepare for the upcoming storm whatever it may be.
People still underestimating President Trump.
Presidency is a done deal. Hello Georgia,,, help keep the Senate. The ‘Machine’ is on the march there too.
President Trump has shown more personal strength these 4years for enduring all the bull$hit thrown at him He has a team of legal people doing a good job they have a lot of sworn affidavits of fraud.I know the deck is stacked against him from top to bottom, but the ONLY hope for the future of this Country is 4 more years for our President Trump.If you believe in the Constitution and want it upheld, if you don’t want Harris as Dictator, if you value what freedom we still have then it won’t be over till its over.When it is all over we will deal with. Rioting and violence against us if we have to.God bless the USA, and our President Trump.
Remember, that in runoff elections in GA, only the people who voted in the original election are eligible to vote in the runoff.
So that caps the maximum number of votes possible – no manufacturing of votes.
Now, can they still cheat ? I am sure they have already figured out a way.
We had early voting in-person and absentee ballots in GA, but we did not participate in the ‘mail in’ vote system that so many States have run this time. Haven’t heard what is planned for the Jan 5 event.
Warnock/Loeffler – L came in second in a non-partisan ‘Jungle primary’ with 26% and the first eliminated candidate Collins (R) got 20%. There were several other Rs in the race. If enough R people show up and they vote for L, she should win.
Perdue/Ossoff – P got 49.8% and O got 47.8% and 2.4% went to Others. Again if the Rs show up and the Others vote splits evenly, P should win. O would have to win 90% of the Others vote to win.
Both of these races are turn-out elections. If the Rs show up and if we can flush out the cheating, the Rs should win.
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RETRACTION – sorry, but the Law has been changed recently.
If you are registered to vote in GA or do so before Dec 7, you can vote in the runoff.
The cheaters have a full deck of cards to play with now…hope we can catch them.
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Oh, great….well, I and my family here in Georgia will be voting Republican. I will be pretty upset if Ossoff wins. He seems especially weaselly to me.
Andrew Yang and a bunch of rich Californians are moving to Georgia for the express purpose of voting in the runoff. Win by any cost is funded by the profit at any sacrifice crowd.
Presumably, Andrew and Company will not have a valid GA Driver’s license or ID so this is what they will need:
“What is considered “acceptable” documentation?
If you don’t have a GA ID, and plan to use another form of ID, like an out of state drivers license, or a passport, you must bring another document to prove your current address. Examples of documents must show your name, current Georgia address, and must be less than 60 days old.
This means that they will have to go to a little trouble to establish a residency in GA. Not a great burden, but some more effort than just showing up at a registrar’s office to register to vote.
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I don’t think Trump will get a second term.
That said, I am convinced massive fraud was in play in this election.
Off topic but appropriate for today.
Thank you to all my fellow brother and sister veterans for your service to our great Nation. My wife is an Army vet and I am Navy so we always enjoy the Army Navy game each year.
It still a month away but….GO NAVY! BEAT ARMY!
RC,
No dinner for you tonight bubba, LOL!
I’d love to see Trump get a second term, but I fear the powers that be that are in control, the cabal, will do anything and everything they can to ensure that “outsider” is gone! It’s a crying shame too… Trump has done so much for the American people!
Unfortunately, I don’t suspect Trump will win. Between the media controlling the narrative and indisputable evidence of mass fraud not being shown immediately (even if it may exist), the final decision makers won’t want to rock the boat. Peace will override facts and integrity.
My hope is that enough information will be brought to light to have more honest elections moving forward. A boy can dream.
Not sure why I got a negative vote for trying to clarify my position. And, no I do not give people negative votes because I disagree with them or even if I feel they are trolling.
Neither will concede, prepare for ugly
A storm is coming, what are you prepared to do?
the so called SECURITY AGENCIES tell THE PRESIDENT WHAT THEY THINK he needs to hear and that IS NOT ALWAYS THE TRUTH trump has his own connections through his businesses and i would think they give him the FACTS not the bullshit the deep state wants
i voted for him because he is FOR smaller government and DID NOT owe ANYONE from the political world used tp and i seriously believe they have used there lies against trump and those of us that aint gonna fall for the bullshit from em
There are legal processes that will play out to determine what happens moving forward.
I would like to see a standard in place for all 50 states when it comes to federal elections. Transparency is very important when the nation is politically divided almost right down the middle.
I’m gonna ask an honest question. If the process plays out and Trump ultimately wins, will you be ok with that? Should Biden win, I’m willing to accept that and move on with my day.
I had to vote no on this, though it isn’t the outcome I want. The GOP has hung Trump out to dry since the beginning. Begrudgingly, some have lined up behind him because face it; people LIKE Trump. For the most part though, the GOP never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. It’s essentially hung its constituents out to dry as well. The Jackass Party, on the other hand, has used every dirty trick in the book… with impunity… to get what it wants.
Even if Trump could pull off a miraculous reversal, the wailing, screaming, and conniving would only continue another four years, silencing our voices in the process. I say we speak loudly… on our own, together…
God is all about miraculous reversals, Tom MacGyver. Any wailing voices in the political arena are likely corrupt and compromised, and that is why they resist Trump every step of the way. They are terrified of being exposed and of having to face justice in Trump’s second term for their corruption.
Given the fact that 27,000 people over the age of 90 voted in Georgia, as did 1,000 over the age of 100 and also 528 people over the age of 105….it will be interesting to see how many of them turn out for that runoff.
Exactly. I want to see the interview with the guy born in 1900 who cast his vote for China Joe.
Desert –
It’s amazing too how many people have been brought back from the grave. Evidently Joe Frazier is back. No mention of whether he brought Ali with him, but since they should both be well rested and able to vote, I’m thinking they may as well stick around for a fight at Madison Square Garden before going back to their graves. After they re-vote of course.
I wonder how Abe voted.
Cool. Thanks for answering.
I’m all for open discussion. If people are going to take the time to write on a forum, I don’t suspect minds are going to be changed, but I’m always interested in people’s thought process.
Well,
I’m down in the 50/50 chance.
I’m glad to see the all the yes votes, though. .
We The People, want Trump another four, definitely.
It’s those with too much evil power, that will decide our fate, in this. Unfortunately
Almost 50% believe he has a good chance. 75% for good or even chance. Better than I expected. I don’t believe he has a chance, not because he’s not in the right (he is) but because of what is arrayed against him.
The people of the disUnited States have decided that the media can call this. The SCOTUS is dumbed down to the point where they believe their mandate is to bow to the will of the people. The will of the people has come to mean the will of the corporate sponsors and the media. The libs have decided that facts and evidence are meaningless. A good portion of Trump’s base believes that there was no fraud because the media says so.
Yeah, I know, right?
Kinda like that infected tooth.
Hurts, but ya gotta keep messing with it, to see if the pain…(in the a$$) is still there…..
Yup, still there.
Weird
Yeah Obsessed like the attention a biting urine fly gets
So how much per post do you get paid basement dweller?
It should have. Republicans had the House, Senate and White House for two years. They should have passed voter ID, national right to work, and lots of other things, but they wasted their time on repealing the ACA. That should have waited for the 2nd term.
Most republican congress types have little or no courage. It is the old go along to get along route. Sad indeed.
Dems are calling on people to move to GA to vote
It all depends on Pennsylvanian. Local judge extended voting law by three days after Nov 3. They can’t do that. Only legislature can make laws. The election committee chairman segregated all ballots that came in after Nov 3rd. He knows ths will go to SCOTUS. TRUMP will win Pennsylvanian
I believe there is a 75% chance that Trump will prove the fraud and corruption in enough states quickly enough to get the necessary 270 electoral votes needed to win. I also believe both Trump and Biden will claim victory and neither one will concede…..and then there goes the neighborhood. The Dems have a history of voter fraud and thought they would again quietly pull the wool over everyone’s eyes. They get more blatant with every election. The last three years show the depths they will go to and soon they will not even give us the illusion of having an election.
It is unlikely either side will accept their defeat in this corrupted election and the violence could be, will be, historic. This will be, at the least, a new major rip in our society. I could hope that Trump would just accept defeat so as to preserve the nation but that would mean the good submits to the evil. No, Trump must oppose this and win even though we go through the “fire” for the good of the nation.
Pray for our nation, and each other. Remember it’s still 2020. Hopefully it won’t be a full decade like this year.
Stay safe and prepare.
DeepSouth
DJT has nothing to lose by pushing the envelope and dragging as many skeletons out of these azzhats closets as he possibly can, at the very least, he will open a can of worms for the democraps, exactly what they deserve
KF,
Win or lose, I hope he will declassify every single document, regardless of its level of security, from the Bush, Obama and his Administrations and let the cards fall where they may. From 9/11 to Benghazi to Russia Gate let the people see the deep state for what it really is. Every damn page un-redacted!
Amen Romeo Charlie,,,
hey, JC
good last post bud,,, screw the democraps,,, they want to pull this BS, they better be ready for some lumps
In my personal opinion, “national security” does not equate to “We’ll look like idiots if this is released.” Nothing should be redacted unless a board consisting of a President’s rep, a House rep, a Senate rep, and one representative from each of the intelligence agencies ALL AGREE that it’s a national security issue.
Oops
That damned down vote.
Yeah we all know how the ‘system’ works.
Any of the Clinton’s prosecuted, tried and jailed, yet?
What favorable instances has your Biden done in the 4 plus decades in Congress?
Not a damn thing. Except for fraud, lining his own pockets, using his own family as cover.
Why do your type fear the Trump?
Possible conviction of many years of wrong doing on both sides.
Bite me, ohh, ignorant one.
Your world will fall apart as with the rest of us and it’s because of the corrupt $hit you’ve supported, now and in the past.
All I know, is we won’t be the ones crying to mommy, when it all goes to hell.
Good luck, good riddance
Have any of you ever given much thought as to how Rutherford B. Hayes became President? Same scenario only difference we are more modernized with better thieves. YET, he was chosen by the powers that be under our Constitutional laws to become the President of the United States.
Let us all pray that the same out come is provided to the current President.
AC –
Interesting that you would bring up the voter fraud from that election. A huge part of that revolved around the intimidation used against the black community to keep them away from the polling places, as well as attempting to trick them with fraudulent ballots due to the fact that many remained illiterate. Due to those factors the Republican tally was lowered because the black community was part of the Republican Party since they stood for equal rights and the Democrats preferred the subjugation of blacks.
From then until now, the Democrats remain who they have always been.
Best of my knowledge, no state has certified their election results, no state has assigned their electors to any candidate yet….the electoral college has yet to convene and cast their votes….until this happens there is no president-elect Biden….this will not happen until all challenges have been ruled on….in spite of the propaganda campaign being waged by the media and the DNC……will Biden survive this process?….maybe…maybe not….don’t expect it to be a pretty process….don’t expect anyone giving up without a fight….four more years of Trump will destroy too many powerful people….and change the way our bureaucracies operate as cash cows for politicians using our tax monies (the reason so many Rinos hate Trump, they too profit from this system) ………
Me? I’m enjoying the view here on the mountain…………..here, I’m in control…well, kinda sorta…when the wife’s asleep……….
I heard that if the Supreme Court tosses the Pennsylvania results, the House of Representatives decides their Electoral votes for them.
Then there’s the Faithless Electors drama in December…
should be exciting
my family came here in 1603 we have had family members in our military since day one and have been in every conflict or war we have been in MY family HELPED to build this country from the ground up my ancestor ROGER SHERMAN was the ONLY one that signed that signed the all 4 of the documents that we as americans hold so dearly and ill be damned if i will go quietly into the night without standing up
i may not have taken the oath those in our military did but i would stand with those that did anyway
You a can wish in one hand and shit in the other hand and see which one fills up
first.
The fix is in. I wish it wasn’t so but it is. “The Others” will never let up!
I do not believe the Deep State will let Trump win. They are very devious and willing to hurt people physically and financially to line their own pockets with coin and power. Evil is in our face lately and they don’t care that we know what they are doing.
DAMedinNY sadly I agree. All the major players in the Media (including Faux News) as well as almost everybody else have hung their behinds out SO Far that IF Trump survives THEY ARE DOOMED as businesses. Want to harm a Rich News Family Beggar them.
The Deep State KNOWS IF Trump survives there will be trials for treason and hangings SO they will fight tooth and nail EVEN to the point of Threatening the Supreme Court Justices to ensure Trump loses there. Stirring up ALL available Mob assets is a given. Potential False Flag attacks of “Patriots” and even “Russian backed Terrorists” will be deployed as needed.
During a Color Revolution the Grid and Food Distribution will be only mildly harmed as the POINT of a Color Revolution is to have the PEOPLE Agree to Anything to MAKE it STOP AND *Still* have a functional Country to “WIN”.
Even Stalin, Mao and Hitler NEEDED the implied Consent of the people to rule effectively. Slave chains of Socialism – Communism – Fascism work best WHEN the People volunteer to wear them.
OTHERWISE Anything GOES during a “Make it STOP Campaign”.
CONgress (spelling intentional) KNOWS they hung their behinds out so far that the fallout AFTER the Insurrection Act quells the Mobs that Trials and prison time will occur.
Winter isn’t coming it’s HERE.
While we can mitigate a lot of the damages in the shorter timeframe it’s nearly impossible to mitigate the “Re-education Camps” and “Enemies Lists” with out the 2nd Amendment and hiding yourself.
In my Opinion, Only Control of the Senate through the GA run off’s will slow this train down. Note NOT Stop, just slow and moderate as the Deep State knows how to “Influence” our reluctant Republican’s in both houses.
Buy it and hide it as with out beans and shelter for your family YOU are not going to “resist” very long as winter howls.
If Biden cheats his way into the Oval Office, there is a movement afoot to not buy anything for 4 years except food and medicine. In other words, deliberately tank the economy as much as possible ina Biden -Harris admin. 73 million Americans not buying anything extra for 4 years would have an impact.
Sorry but given what happens when a BROKE Country does Socialism GUESS WHAT? Food and whatever medicine you can find and afford IS what you buy.
Margert Thatcher said “Socialism is grand Until you Run OUT of other Peoples Money”. ANNND We’re Already Broke….
A little bit like the grown up version of I’ll hold my breath until I turn into a brain dead Socialist.
Personally unlike the Christians fed to the Lions I don’t limit my political options to resolving to Taste Bad. I want to break a tooth.
Really good articles on American Thinker today. After reading them, I would like to change my vote in this poll from 25% to 75%, please Ken.
Actually we should all read American Thinker every day.
the way things are going here in this country is starting to remind me of stories of the political life in the old south of yrs ago. the dems from the early yrs ( teens, 20’s 30’s and later ), the dems controlled everything political and everyone else could go fly a kite ( so to speak )
And that’s why I give our President only a 50% chance…
Jim Crow Joe has the full establishment behind him.
USADR
the establishment in DC doesnt want anyone who challenges them or questions their corruption, look at Tulsi Gabbard, she has completely become invisible since making statements against the corruptocracy that rules us…
We can’t afford to let them get away with this without a fight. I think this election was rigged by the deep state. Trump will win.
Isn’t it wonderful how we can have two Presidents at the same time?
Trump can only remain President if our current Federal Election Laws are actually applied and enforced, and the various State Legislatures actually understand their duty, as mandated by U.S. Constitution, which cannot be delegated, or assigned, or altered by any act of any other State Judicial, or Executive, office.
All State Legislatures may uphold their Federal electoral duties without the consent, or permission, of the Governor, and may convene the Legislature to perform these duties as they see fit, as they are already charged by Constitution to do so.
If a State’s legislature decides the popular vote is tainted, it has several options available to it, all of which are perfectly Constitutional, including re-assuming all authority it may have previously delegated, or assigned to others.
If what we are now seeing from Biden’s camp is any indication of what is to come….
You’re in for a surprise.
According to Lou Dobbs today, Bill Gates donated millions to replace experienced poll watchers with high school students in battleground states!
The only way we can win is fight like we did to Saddam Hussain. Cut off the snakes head. The first rule in defeating the enemy is cut off communication that feeds their troops. Now how can we do this to the demoncrats? And increase our own unity in communication and the truth?
There are over 72 million republicans who voted, how much damage can we do as a group to stop watching the leftists news? Boycott their advertisers? Pull out our children in the public schools and homeschool or use private schools? Flood Hillsdale college and the like with students, encourance apprentice learning, clean out your 401 Ks with socialist and Chinese supporting companies and invest in America instead, support conservative companies and businesses like we did with Chic filet, Hobby Lobby, and My Pillow, find the business lists that had heavy donations to the demoncrat party and boycott them, boycott facebook and twitter and populate alternate social media with 72 million more users like Parler, and 72 million users less in their socialist media, create more blogs like this with interactions of conservatives, libertarians, and freedom loving people, teach our children the truth about socialism, Marxism, Totalitarianism, fascism, communism, and how they kill people and destroy lives.
Can we be united in this? I have done much of these things for years, but I am just one person. What will you do ?
Great post Stardust,,,
For myself paying attention to where stuff i buy comes from is huge.
Go 1099 at work and stop paying weekly payroll taxes to the feds. If you still want to pay state income tax, set it up to do so. I pay cash for my own health insurance so that doesn’t change. If everyone goes 1099, cash flow is greatly reduced to the feds.
Ditto for our household
Be of good cheer…
Dr. Shiva, PhD on vashiva blog “Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems”
as for me and my house, we are going to dc to show support against big tech, faux news, and the elites and Hopefully be an encouragement to Trump!
for who knows Gods plan for such a time as this??
Starduct, just to show you how dangerous it is for people to rely too much on the fake news media:
This morning, Maria was interviewing two people on a recent legal decision — a lawyer and a female Dem operative. They disagreed and Maria asked her, “Are you a lawyer”
“No,” she said, “but I can read the newspapers.”
Of course, we all know that if it says it in the newspaper, it must be true. We must even base legal opinions about what some journalist says in the newspaper.
I meant Stardust. So sorry. Spellcheck gremlins again.
Anybody see this ??? “FEC Chair Drops the Hammer: The Results are ‘Illegitimate’.
Soul –
Ipso Facto were Trainor’s words and I agree.
The chairman of the FEC, Trey Trainor, says reports of voter fraud in key battleground states are credible.
When Democrat officials remove GOP poll watchers from polling locations in violation of State law, and Federal Law, and Federal Court orders, they are committing State and Federal crimes. To conspire to, and then actively deny meaningful access to GOP poll watchers, not only makes these Democrats criminals, they make the election illegitimate.
The FEC chief said, he agrees with the Trump campaign’s lawsuits.
“(The law puts forth) a process that is to be observed by election observers, the law allows those (GOP) observers to be in there,” he continued. “And if they’re not, then the law is not being followed, making this an illegitimate election.”
In recent days, the mainstream media has continued to claim there was no voter fraud in this year’s elections, but Trainor’s statements reveal this election is far from over.
Despite the MSM claims however, there are solid facts that underscore his points. NC hasn’t finished counting absentee ballots as of yet. Alaska took until yesterday to call for Trump even though he led by higher margins from the very beginning. As well as all the chicanery that has been openly on display, including the recent idiocy of Yang’s plan to vote in Georgia.
I’ve been fascinated by the projections that various folks make towards what a real tally would be, if all the fraud was stripped away. Some have Trump as high as 305, with Biden at 233. I doubt we’ll see that. Yet I do tend to agree that it is more reflective of the outcome I thought we would have, based on rally attendance and reactions to the events leading up to the election.
The reason Trump rally attendance was higher than Biden rally attendance is because the Dems are paranoid about catching the ‘rona.
Ha! I doubt it. Biden couldn’t draw a crowd if he paid people to come. He’s just not that personable. Hitlery wasn’t either. Obama was OK, but still didn’t draw the crowds the way Trump does. Maybe it’s a politician thing. Trump draws crowds, but he’s not a politician. If the dems were smart they’d use that, rather than fighting it.
Could also be because bidet never actually had any rallies and but held scripted media events.
it aint over
Ision – MSM beating the drum of no fraud when it is openly committed. Why? We all know who owns the MSM. SCOTUS will rule that there was fraud or totally lose credibility. Their egos are too big for that. No…. I believe they will rule correctly and President Trump wins. All according to “The Plan”. Both sides spun up and ready to go. Hope I am wrong.
Cross Post from Bayou Renaissance Man
Ah Peter, don’t you *think* the Deep State-Socialist-Democrat scum that is running this Color Revolution hasn’t war-gamed MERE Fraud FACTS getting in the WAY of the GRAND PLAN?
The Red Guard is already busy destroying the “Four Old’s”
The Four Olds or the Four Old Things was a term used during the Cultural Revolution by the Red Guards in the People’s Republic of China in reference to the pre-communist elements of Chinese culture they attempted to destroy. The Four Olds were: Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Habits, and Old Customs. The campaign to destroy the Four Olds began in Beijing on August 19, 1966, shortly after the launch of the Cultural Revolution.
In your experience outside the USA where did Reason and Logic EVER overpower violent Communist Revolution?
Should we invite them to tea perhaps where we can discuss like gentlemen our differences?
The ballot box’s last stand is Jan 20th 2021
You have until then to prepare for the winter of our discontent, the Gulags and the Dark Winter Dr. Nazi keeps gleefully referring to as a new improved COVID is released to control the panicked by Media population.
Is the plan to leave a bad taste in the mouth of the lions that devour us to the cheering crowds? I plan to break a tooth myself.
Ken can we restart your countdown clock for the hour of the next Presidential Ceremony Jan 10th 2021?
A reminder that Tempest Fugit perhaps?
Over on ZH was reading the piece where obamma says that claims of fraud are dangerous,,,,
Well guess what obammy,,, YOUR DEMOCRAP FRAUD IS AN EVEN BIGGER PROBLEM!
It aint over
The video explaining big data is a little complicated. Watch it a couple of times. It is college level statistics, so you will get it, I promise.
(Dr.SHIVA: MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems)
Here’s the summary:
For the election returns in many precincts to happen the way they did, Biden would have to flip a coin 1,000 times and get heads every time. We aren’t done here.
He would also have to do it over and over again, in scores, perhaps hundreds of precincts.
Ken,
Being a numbers person, and having suffered through multiple statistics classes, I get that these numbers are so far out of whack as to have been the closest thing to statistically impossible as you can get.
But, how does the Trump team prove it… how do they convince judges (and the public) that this is evidence and not statistical theory? Especially since they have to overcome half the country’s belief that these legal challenges are without evidence?
And I just read one of the law firms (I believe handling PA) is now backing away. Seems their staff are being harassed. These people are without shame, unbelievably self-righteous and willing to destroy constitutional law to get their way. Then again, they seem ready to destroy the Constitution no matter what.
So Cal Gal,
Therein lies the extreme challenge. And this is exactly why the MSM has already anointed Biden. They know the masses will not understand (or care about) statistical analysis and such (Dominion Voting Systems Fraud).
The masses on the left will not be persuaded (except by MSM – who will continue the Biden-elect message). So this will likely end up decided by SCOTUS and/or the states legislature via the constitutional process.
Yes, I also read about the PA law firm team being massively pressured via left tactics. As we all know, this is for all the marbles and there are MASSIVE forces against America right now…
>> “Leftist mobs descended upon some of the lawyers representing the President’s campaign and they buckled.”
I love how these leftist garbage feel their BS is “democracy”
LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, BURN,,,,,
THATS ALL DEMOCRAPS ARE GOOD FOR,
Tim Murtaugh, the re-election campaign’s Communication Director used that descriptor. And it is accurate.
Isn’t it Michigan getting ready for another complete lock down? Good timing to prevent a ‘do over’
aka,
I’m not sure.
Lots of rumors.
The MI Supreme Court shut her down pretty hard, but now she expects the MDHHS to do her dirty work.
Lots of crazy activity in my automotive work place….
Lots of over time, lately.
We’re not big three.
Seemed to be before this virus scare, the automotive industry was, big time hurting.
Odd doings, that I cannot grasp the concept of.
Overtime was forbidden. Big time cutbacks
Now, we must work 7 days a week? And a free for all?
Market for good used cars has gone sky high..parts at a premium…have a friend w/ car lot/. has 2 SUV type vehicles. they would bring more thru open auction than on their small town lot…2004 ish-4500+.. before scare ppl were working and would replace vehicle every 2-4 years here.. now everyone is repairing…mechanics are booming, so are pull a part places…our local junk yard is having difficulty getting cars to part out…
Project Veritas has a second whistleblower from the USPS, stating that the supervisor instructed them to toss out Republican mailings and deliver Democratic ones as First Class.
As members of a union you would “think” that they could have all approached their National Association of Letter Carriers leadership to report the nefarious acts they witnessed firsthand, yet NALC openly endorsed Biden. Considering that the USPS is an agency under the Executive Branch it seems odd to me that their union could make an endorsement in a Presidential election though.
The other odd part is that there should be a 9 member Board of Governors, who are selected by Trump with advice and consent of the Senate. Yet there’s only 6 members showing on their Org Chart. Does anyone have purview into the USPS, or have any family members that are Letter Carriers who can shed some light onto how they function and who actually serves as the checks and balances of the organization?
Personally i am leery of the postal service,
If you want to enhance your distrust, read AAmericans Home series, the postal workers are part of the problem after things fall apart, i know its fiction but kinda makes you think
Best series ever written. Yeah, I think our distrust is well assigned.
How could USPS workers tell a Republican vs. a Democrat ballot if it’s in a sealed envelope?
Some states use color coded envelopes
Do you have a source you could please point me toward? Only example I’ve been able to find online are for primary voting in some Florida counties since they have closed primaries. And anyway, what if someone is a registered Democrat and decides to vote Republican? Doesn’t seem like a very good plan either way…
Curious………..,
I don’t think the story related to mail-in ballots, just other correspondence……..before the election, my wife and I received, usually, at least one mailer a day from Trump or the RNC…either updates on the campaign, duns for donations, etc………
Since election day, I have received zilch……sorta suspicious since I would think that if nothing else, the RNC or Trump would be asking for contributions to help with the legal costs to make the challenges………
The mailings cost money…money paid the USPS for a service…failure to provide that service, after accepting the postage paid, is theft…..willfully doing so, in order to aid one candidate/party over another, is violation of federal law…………
Hope this helps……….
Dennis,
I signed up for the emails, because our mail person and the designated post office for my zip did not even deliver regular mail. I spoke many weeks ago to a mailman and was told that his supervisor simply decided if mail will get delivered that day or sometime later. So, mail was sitting in the post office and going KIA and MIA. Most usps folks are pretty liberal (aside from known theft and dumping mail). I am getting updates daily at least a dozen a day.
FEC Chair Drops the Hammer: The Results Are ‘Illegitimate’
Trainor has gone on record with a bombshell announcement, following investigations into the election ballot count in Pennsylvania.
The FEC chair says, based on the info gathered from PA and elsewhere in the country, this presidential election is illegitimate.
>> Report
What amazes me is that so many people are in denial, almost all democrat, but nobody has been actually assigned All or certified, from what i can gather from many sources. So far it has been media, and the biden people calling the winner, but no authority that actually has the say has said anything. Correct me if im wrong please,
This whole thing is total BS.
I would think if the chairman of the Federal Government Comission in charge of the election calls the election “Illegitimate”, that will at least start a massive investigation and recount effort. the election ‘as it stands’ would be tough for Congress to certify. This whole thing will likely have to be decided by the courts. Pray for our nation.
Courts, as in SUPREME COURT!
We have demonstrable evidence that many if not most of the lower courts are political in nature
“They” aka deep state, got to Roberts and only expect a liberal ruling from now on. The deep state wasn’t able to turn Scalia and eventually he had a “planned heart attack” on a hunting trip. His family was also threatened I believe so that would account for no autopsy performed contrary to state law. As many supporters as Trump has, they aren’t in a position to overcome deep state who is in control. We are on the super sonic train to socialism and ultimately communism.
Hegelian dialectic – problem / reaction / solution.
Problem: Contested election (engineered) thus dividing the nation. Reaction: Civil war resulting in martial law enforced ultimately by blue helmets. Solution: New World Order rising from the ashes.
Question: Is this Judgement or just bad luck? Sounds a lot like Matthew 24 to me with all the weather events, volcanos / earthquakes, things to fall from the skies, wars and rumors of war, decease, persecution, drought / famine, economic collapse, etc., etc.. I know…. all this happened before. Yes….but all coming together at the same time?
At best you gotta say this is really really bad luck, not just in the U.S., but globally. But…. then again, He did say this was coming. Fear not. Psalm 91
…reports of fraud in some battleground states are credible “otherwise they would allow the [poll] observers to go in,”
That’s exactly right. Why were observers NOT ALLOWED? And other places they were kept a hundred feet away. Nothing to hide? Ya aright…
>> Report
To ‘Curious’,
If you really are Curious, watch this video and report back to me — assuming you have the comprehension to understand what this MIT PhD is saying and showing…
There has been algorithmic electronic voter fraud via Dominion and/or Hammer & Scorecard — on the scale never before seen in the United States. The analysis is indisputable. The root of it needs to be rooted out. Right quick. And prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Yes I’m genuinely curious, I’m a skeptic and don’t like being misled by anyone…Democrat or Republican. Your “assuming you have the comprehension” comment seems a little uncalled for, but then again, I’m no PhD so maybe I don’t. I’m open minded and will watch that video, but it’s over an hour long so will take some time to digest. Any particular parts you’d like to highlight for me?
Like I said, I’m open minded but need to see solid evidence to be convinced, not just speculation. I guess from a common sense perspective, one question would be if the analysis from this Dr. Shiva is technically sound, why hasn’t he been included in the ongoing lawsuits in MI? Seems like the president’s team would be foolish not to use his analysis if it’s legit. Overturning a deficit of 147k votes is a tall order, they’re going to need all hands on deck.
Curious , Because getting signed forensic statements- takes time and resources… in one area there are 1000 cases of reported irregularities of some sort.IT all Takes Time…Those charges were not filed frivilously like the Democrats have filed their charges against OUR POTUS… ther is no hearsay.. it is WITNESS testimony…
. One lady was issued a mail in ballot…she wanted to vote n person so put it in garbage… someone got that ballot filled it out and then she could not vote when she went in person.
.Look at the info… there is case after case cited- you know on the interview that Faux news cut off…and said no evidence was offered WHILE she was giving the evidence….There are many whistle blowers telling of vote changes on ballots..
I’m neither judge nor jury in any of these cases, so I’m not the one who needs convincing. My own opinion is that if the evidence is solid, then it will eventually be proven in a court of law. I still have faith in the U.S. justice systems.
Curious about your take on the statement yesterday from Christopher Krebs, head of Cybersecurity & Infrastructure at the Dept. of Homeland Security: “The November 3 election was the most secure in American history. While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too.” Krebs was appointed by the President in 2018 and came from the private sector so as far as I know he isn’t a former Bush guy or anything like that.
I’d be curious as to your response to the statement from the head of the FEC, that the concerns are credible and should be investigated. The DHS has been against Trump from the beginning, so I’m not sure I’d accept their statements without solid evidence. Which means investigating the allegations.
The FEC is in charge of enforcing campaign finance laws, not election security. Christopher Krebs at DHS is directly responsible for election security among other things and is charged with keeping Americans safe from harm both foreign and domestic. So I suppose I put much more stock into what he says.
Not sure how you can claim that DHS has been against Trump from the beginning. CBP, ICE, TSA, Secret Service, etc. all are part of DHS. Some of the President’s staunchest allies are at DHS. And anyway, the President personally appointed Krebs. Are you implying he got hoodwinked into appointing a secret Democrat or something?
Came back to reply after watching the Dr. Shiva video you recommended and now it seems like the thread was deleted. I read through your comment policy and couldn’t find any violation that would warrant removal. There may have been differences of opinion, but I thought we were all having a civil discussion. Was this simply a technical glitch or was it intentional censorship?
@Curious,
Go to the Open Forum. Then read the FIRST comment. Then read through the three links. That will answer your question.
Your site, your rules. Never going to argue that. I tried hard to not be insulting or rude with my posts, so I’m assuming that the “Bouncer Authority” is what led to the comments being deleted. Is the bottom line that 4-5 down votes on a post is enough to get someone booted around here? You’ve built a nice site and I’ve got some great info out of it over the past year or so. Even used your links to buy Amazon products on a couple occasions. Last week was my first attempt wading into the comments section. Voted Republican my entire life but every day feeling more like a man without a party. If I’m an Agitator for politely insisting that evidence must be provided in court to support serious accusations of fraud, then so be it. Hate to leave a site that I’ve enjoyed, but I’m not one to hang around in ‘safe spaces’ with my head in the sand. Before I go I want to say thank you and sincerely wish you nothing but luck in the future. Adios amigo
How come the Russians didn’t help Trump this time?
Bummin,
I have that picture of Putin eating popcorn in my head,,,
they were too busy helping bidet.
Does anyone remember when George soros Said in 2019 at Davos that Trump will not be president in 2020 will here you go
Facebook no longer refers to President Trump, but political candidate Trump.
Wisconsin has 72 counties and something like 58 were red and 14 were blue and I believe it’s accurate. Just blue Milwaukee and Madison areas can easily outvote the rest of the red parts of the state.
It is my strong belief — and I have given this much thought — that President Trump is preparing to blow Americans’ minds, including the media and even some of his detractors. I believe that he, along with attorneys Sidney Powell and L. Linn Wood (two of THE most renowned and respected in this country), know EXACTLY what and who they’re up against and are not afraid to confront it. But sometimes you need to show people what’s being done to them instead of tell them. I also don’t believe Trump would have opened this can of worms if he didn’t have the goods. I read somewhere that what is about to come out will cause people to question everything about what they once believed; that it will rock them to their very core because the rabbit hole is just that deep and corrupt. I saw a video of Sidney Powell speaking with Lou Dobbs the other night, and I will say this…she is a woman on a mission and she is filled with righteous anger. I don’t believe that was theater. I’m trusting that God’s hand is still on this nation and that He will reveal everything that’s been done in the dark as scripture says.
I hope that you are right. Because, as they say, “this is it…”
I hope I’m right, too, Ken. Believe me. The alternative is frankly too frightening to imagine. I’ve considered just about everything and none of it is good. Now there’s whispers of us (Trump) going to war with Iran soon (serious whispers) or assisting Israel in doing the same, and I have to tell you, I’m not feeling good about any of this.
MSG12B –
Not mere whispers. Voices have grown much louder. As you know, we pay for all that Israel has, therefore wherever one goes, so goes the other. But the people of Iran not only welcome the conflict, they have been very vocal in letting Trump know they support him one hundred percent. They love him as much as they hate their leadership.
MSG12B, We have been watching some of the same stuff..I am still praying that the evil will be defeated…and wiped out. The corruption will be stopped and those guilty will receive their just reward…sooner rather than later… Has been said..Trump is playng 3 D Chess. they are still playing mumbly peg.
Glad we could help put a smile on your face…….come back this afternoon….we’ll be running clips of Biden trying to read a teleprompter……knee slappin’ hilarious………