Twin Towers – Never Forget 09/11/2017 Ken Jorgustin 69 Comments Today is 9/11. Remember. Related Posts That You Might Like: About The Author Ken Jorgustin Ken Jorgustin, author of Modern Survival Blog has been writing a unique mixture of prepping & preparedness topics since early 2010. 69 Comments hermit us 09/11/2017 I remember. Disbelief, then shock, then anger. I think they should have been rebuilt as they were but stronger, just to show our resolve and that this country can not be beaten. I think, not rebuilding them was as disheartening to me as the terror attacks.. I knew then that some in this country would compromise our freedom for self interest and fake security. My prepping really began then. I remember. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 The holes in the ground they call reflecting pools are a symbol of defeat for me, not a show of strength and determination. As Car Guy states further down, that is when this stupid war began and this is a greater sign of weakness for this country. Did they learn nothing from Vietnam? If you must fight, fight to win and get it finished. Reply Pieface 09/11/2017 The new towers were designed by an architect from France. Poor choice! Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 The towers were not architectural masterpieces but they were our symbols over Manhattan. You see them in so many older movies and each time you have to smile. Reply Pieface 09/11/2017 Sorry, by poor choice I meant it should have been an American architect. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 Don’t be sorry – I know what you meant and I agree. Now we off-shore just about everything. Reply Jon 09/11/2017 I remember first hearing it on the radio on my way to work. I was a contractor working on bullet traps for LEOs, Feds and military. Needless to say, that job got much more bigger overnight. It will be one of the defining moments of my generation as I was only 21 then. It was (and still is) the most shocking moment of my life. As I get older I know I will have to explain to my son what and why it happened and that “that was day that solidified my resolve” to start prepping. I will always remember and never forget. On this day in 2011, all of our lives changed. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 Jon The twin towers terror attack – Sept 11, 2001. Take care and keep prepping. Reply Jon 09/11/2017 Yea, I just realized. My brain going faster than my fingers. Reply NRP 09/11/2017 9/11/2001 – 9/11/2017 NEVER FORGET! Got a little ahead of Ken this morning, BUT I will repost this a million times if needed….. I remember the date well, and I WILL never forget or forgive this act of cowards. Yes it changed my life, for the better I believe. Reply Jimbo 09/11/2017 Yes, do remember watching the events unfold on TV as I’m sure it was very disturbing to watch. Reply car guy 09/11/2017 Never forget!!! Many innocent people died that day and many heroes died trying to help those people. We have also been at war ever since that date and many more heroes have died. I say I started prepping after the ice storm in 2009 and that is when I started stock piling food and fuel, but I started collecting guns on 9/11/2001. I bought a Ruger 10/22 that day after seeing the towers fall. Reply Jan 09/11/2017 Its a day that will last forever. It was 3 weeks before I gave birth to our 2nd child. I remember worrying what kind of situation I was bringing my kids into. Started gardening that spring after, canning and buying in bulk. Thanks to the hero’s in the plane that went down in Pa field, A lot more life’s were spared. Still too many life’s were lost that day. Reply Southernman 09/11/2017 The sad fact is no aircraft struck either building and building 7 was so fake it was hard to believe. When I came home in 1975 had free education opportunity and went to flight school. Have all the way through ATP license rated in 727 and 737 and a large number of turbo props. Also 3 1/2 years with Boeing in Everett WA. 747-400 Go Team flight line delivery team leader. With that being said I think I know a few things about aircraft and how they work. Add to that the fact I grew up in the family construction company’s and worked since I was 12 years old so I know how a building is put together. 1. You can not fly over the rough air penetration speed or the wings fall off. 2. The chances that’s these low I.Q. monkey’s could fly these aircraft after training in a Cessna 172.( O) 3. The chances of hitting both buildings would be the same as you winning Mega Millions and Powerball on the same day with quick picks. Those aircraft should have hit like a ripe tomatoes and went splat and hit the street below. Damage to the buildings? Yes, controlled demolition? No. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 Southernman I can not present how strongly I disagree with your premise. And, I have review all the data available presented by top engineers, for structural collapse of all these buildings including the ground shock that affected building 7. I also have considerable knowledge of construction and do understand that there was NO planned demolition of any of these building besides the terrorists fly-by-wire ability and ground navigation. Reply NRP 09/11/2017 hermit us Well that was polite; I seem to agree with you in this matter (unusual I know hehehe). Have been in the Construction Industry AND the Airline professions also, When the Steel Fire Coating were installed 300 years ago, it was not taken into consideration of Jet Fuel being ignited in mass quantities, hence the Structural Steel supporting the upper portion of the building was heated to the point of failure, but that s for the Smart People to know. I do know I have seen a lot of fire damaged buildings and the steel failures, the Planes that DID hit the Twin Towers did not “hit like a ripe tomatoes and went splat and hit the street below” because the face of the building were glass and the planes, fuel, people, passed right through. Watch the video of the “exit wound” of the buildings and one might MIGHT understand this. Ahhhh well, and argument for another day. Southerman; I just would not try to tell the 3000+ families that lost loved ones 16 years ago, that story of “The sad fact is no aircraft struck either building and building 7 was so fake it was hard to believe”, ya might not have such a warm reception. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 NRP I was in the fire service as well and can testify that wood beams (more than 6″ in width) stand up far longer than steel beams – even with that suspect fire protection coating. Wood will char to about a 2″ depth and then hold for quite a while – usually the walls collapse first and you find the beams in the debris. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 Have to add NRP – warm reception? He might want to talk to relatives that were on phones with people that stood in the buildings as the planes approached, describing their immanent and certain death. Some idiots would discount these first hand accounts but not me. Reply Jimbo 09/11/2017 This. My cousin was on the phone to my aunt and gave just such a firsthand account to her. Unfortunately, the moments my cousin lost trying to re-assure his mother cost him his life as many of his co-workers at AON made it out. Southernman 09/11/2017 The phones at that time would not work from a aircraft at over 10,000 feet. A Japanese News crew came to the States and try to repeat the calls. Three different carriers and it would not work for any of them. This is because at 500 mph you cannot capture a tower so it can repeat to the next tower so it drops the call. Family’s also said the calls were so clear they thought the person was calling from the next room. This could only be the case if the aircraft was setting in a CIA hanger. Lauren 09/12/2017 Reading comprehension. They’re talking about people who were IN THE BUILDINGS, not on the planes. Southernman 09/11/2017 NPR Have you ever seen the way a commercial heavy aircraft wing is made. Had a chance to see that at Boeing wing shop on the 747 line. The wings are made to flex up and down not to rearward and back. Most have two or three jack points on the underside for maintenance work. The top of the wing has signs ( Do Not Step) all over it. All of the fuel is in the wings and wing root box center line. The wings of those aircraft would have peeled off like a ripe banana skin. I don’t want to start on a nose cone made of fiber glass going all the way through to the other side of the tower. Seen a seven pound goose destroy one of those. Just saying Reply NRP 09/12/2017 Southernman You’re not worth my time responding. And yes the world is flat and the Sun revolves around the Earth. Go away, you give preparing a bad name. Ken Jorgustin 09/12/2017 This topic is similar to that of discussing religion or politics. It has the potential to get heated. So lets keep our cool. People are entitled to their opinions and so long as they are within this blog’s comment policy, it stays. Just saying… 😉 Dennis 09/12/2017 Southernman, you’ve seen a “seven pound goose” destroy a 747 wing, which is correct. The same science making that possible applies to a 660,000 lb 747 airliner (equivalent of 8 1/2 fully loaded 18 wheelers) impacting a concrete and steel building at the same speed as a .38 special bullet (around 850 fps). Yet you believe that’s not possible? Because aircraft materials are not as tough as construction materials? In the real world, even just regular air that we breathe hitting the same concentrated spot on those buildings at a windspeed of 2-3 times that of a category 5 hurricane would have caused substantial damage. Compress a similar weight equivalent of that air (660000 lb) into a package of similar volume as a 747 and propel it into that building at the same speed, you would have almost exactly the same impact damage, minus the jet fuel for the resulting fire. I’m not attacking your beliefs, I’m just explaining why I can’t accept them myself. cossack55 09/11/2017 Not a pilot nor an engineer but I do know govs and have an intel background. I do not buy one ounce of the BS commission study. I don’t know who was behind it but I have my suspicions. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 There is fall more information out there besides the 911 Commission Study. Some day we may learn the whole truth about some of these terror attacks. Like why did Pakistan protect Bin Ladin for so long and jail the doctor who helped us get him. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 meant to say “far more information” Reply Randy 09/11/2017 I certainly agree southernman. People just refuse to believe how evil the people behind the scenes in our government are; and the world Reply Randy 09/11/2017 PS. They did use planes on the 2 towers, not public ones though; and one missle on the pentagon and thermite explosives on the3 buildings in NYC. Search “Methologocal Illusion” Reply So Cal Gal 09/11/2017 @Randy, On 9-11, a woman who had previously worked for the company I was working for then died in the plane that went down at the Pentagon. She had gone to work for a competitor and was still very close with several of my co-workers, some of whom traveled back east to attend her memorial service. I’m not going to get into all the questions about what happened to all the people, the 4 planes, etc… under your & Southernman’s theories, because I do not want to see this thread devolve into an argument over what happened. I will leave it at simply not agreeing with you. Reply Southernman 09/11/2017 Saw a news cast on 9/11 of the Pentagon and there on the grass was the nose cone of a Beach Craft drone. By the time I could setup to record the clip it was never replayed. Reply BAM BAM 09/11/2017 Get professional help. Reply Dennis 09/11/2017 Southernman, there are many legitimate reasons for distrusting the “powers that be”. but please don’t fall for the hater’s far fetched accusations. Rosie O’Donnell hated Bush so bad, she actually tried to promote the “fact” that “everybody knows fire can’t melt steel!” (how the heck does she think steel is made, then formed into beams?) An airliner at speed can’t penetrate a glass veneered building? It’s a matter of comparative resistance, frontal mass at point of impact, and velocity. You do know (maybe you don’t) that the preferred method for cutting highly tempered armor plate steel such as AR500, is with a concentrated stream of cold water, yes water, at extreme velocities. Cutting torches would destroy the temper and thus the impact resistance. Reply JJ 09/11/2017 Facts…facts..facts…and more facts The only fact real is the most guarded building in the entire WORLD failed with a BILLION dollar defense mechanism. IF you believe that, phhhhttt!!! Sad. Reply Southernman 09/12/2017 Dennis, Did you forget the diamond dust or maybe the fine sand added to the water or the C-4 rope and detcord. How fast must a fiberglass nose cone go to cut a class A steel beam? As for the NWO Bush family maybe it was money, power, fame or some kind of sickness that made them want to bring down this country. Funny how history repeats itself. A king assassinated to start WW I. Bombs dropped on Pearl Harbor WWII. A gun boat to start Nam. And the towers in N.Y to start the fire in the Middle east. Always follow the money it never lies. Reply Modern Throwback 09/11/2017 Since 9/11, independent researchers around the world have assembled a large body of evidence that overwhelmingly refutes the notion that airplane impacts and fires caused the destruction of the Twin Towers and WTC 7. This body of evidence, most of which FEMA and NIST omitted from their reports, instead supports the troubling conclusion that all three skyscrapers were destroyed in a process known as “controlled demolition,” where explosives and/or other devices are used to bring down a building. KEY EVIDENCE Rapid onset of destruction, Constant acceleration at or near free-fall through what should have been the path of greatest resistance, Numerous eyewitness accounts of explosions including 118 FDNY personnel, Lateral ejection of multi-ton steel framing members distances of 600 feet at more than 60 mph, Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete, and large volumes of expanding pyroclastic-like dust clouds, Isolated explosive ejections 20 to 60 stories below the “crush zone,” Total destruction and dismemberment of all three buildings, with 220 floors each an acre in size missing from the Twin Towers’ debris pile, Several tons of molten steel/iron found in the debris piles, Evidence of thermite incendiaries on steel beams, Nanothermite composites and iron microspheres found in WTC dust samples. For this and so much more: http://www.ae911truth.org/news/evidence.html Reply Southernman 09/11/2017 Modern Throwback, Do you think it could have been so the ” Patriot Act and NDAA” could be passed.? Had to do something to get rid of that pesky Constitution thingy. Reply Modern Throwback 09/12/2017 @Southernman There are so many evidentiary signs of planned coordination and pre-meditation that lead those who have researched well to only one conclusion. Im sorry that so many here have piled on you because they won’t allow themselves to look deeply — it IS frightening. If only they would open their eyes to the enormous body of factual evidence that tells us that our government was involved in the 9/11 disaster. The Saudi government played the lead role in the events and US intel was aware of much more than they admit to. A number of family members of the 9/11 survivors have refused to take-it, though. Through years of battling against the government, these brave people are bringing forward lawsuits against the Saudis now that new legislation permits them to do so. The Bobby McIlvaine World Trade Center Investigation Act was just announced. And in the past several years, more and more prominent US leaders have spoken up about the enormous lies surrounding 9/11. Just yesterday, Mike Krieger posted a short piece that’s carried on ZH. (I will post the link following this comment.) It references the Saudi involvement. To answer your question about the Patriot Act: Of course, to ‘protect Americans’ the USA Patriot Act was ready for Congressional passage within a short amount of time — 40+ days. (Wow — how quickly the government works sometimes, huh?) Nevermind that the Patriot Act was a violation of civil and constitutional rights of American citizens, that legislation was designed to spy on Americans. We’d know so much more if we had those black boxes that are placed in all aircraft. Where were those black boxes? Those boxes were high-tech designs to withstand an aircraft catastrophy. The black boxes were disappeared. Or something. But one of the pilots’ wallets was found near the debris piles so that the sheeple could put a name to the-bad-guys. Always follow the money trail. And question everything. Reply Modern Throwback 09/12/2017 “We Need to Admit The Government Story About 9/11 Is Bullshi*” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-11/krieger-we-need-admit-government-story-about-911-bullshit Reply So Cal Gal 09/11/2017 9/11/01 was before I joined my DH in our family business. I was working for a national corporation; I was fortunate to be in town that week, as I often flew on business. My then-employer had plans in place for any type of threat or possible threat including evacuating all offices nationwide. So, we were sent home and I spent the day glued to the TV. Like hermit us, I went through the range of emotions from disbelief to complete shock to sadness and finally to anger that was really more like rage. One of DH’s employees lost several family members including an aunt who worked in one of the towers, and several close family members who were 1st responders who did not make it out when the towers collapsed. He relocated back east to be with the surviving members of his family. I still cannot fathom a personal belief system in which wiping out innocent human beings is the major goal in life. A belief system that places no value on human life, and touts rewards for killing “non-believers”. 9-11 changed everything for all of us – some more directly than others. I will never forget. I have serious concerns over Sharia Law, as it stand in opposition to the laws of the Republic of my birth. I have no tolerance for politicians and others who refuse to acknowledge radical Islamists. There are people in this world who want to end our nation, our way of life, and what we stand for – and we must never forget that. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 I have no idea why some would believe that the government has suicide pilots that will fly into buildings – to what end? I guess the studies are correct, that about 3 out ten have some mental deficiency. I guess it is true that 50% of working age males out of the work force are on opioids. I further guess that is why I stay the hell away from urban centers. Yes there are very evil people and some are amoungst us. Believe what you want under that tinfoil hat, umbrella, coat, and lead lined room. Reply NRP 09/11/2017 hermit us First of all please don’t go picking on me Tinfoil Hat… 🙂 2nd, wasted breath on some and you know that. 3rd, I agree stay out of urban centers, the world is going crazy—-er by the minuet Lastly, everyone knows my thinking of the .gov, and the corruption and so on. BUT I have also have a difficult time believing the 9/11 event was anything but pure evil, Yes there are some that would want to destroy the US than allow it to flourish, but to this extent not even out wacked out politicians and seemingly leaders could do. In my opinion, and yes I know everyone has theirs, this came strictly from the Sand-Box filled with all the hate one could for the USA and her people. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 NRP Thanks for the reality check. Trying to keep my feet on the ground and not let the loons drive me to distraction. So Cal Gal is right, don’t argue and have this site devolve into an argument. Reply hermit us 09/11/2017 The reality is that nearly 7,000 US troops killed and 52,000 wounded since 9/11. WTF are we doing over there – nation building? We have become so afraid that some terrorists may organize in the middle east, that we have to attack country after country – which solves nothing and fosters more hatred against us. Reply 0ldhomesteader 09/11/2017 Lost friends that day ,,,,DD worked in 5 ,,,had lunch a the top of the world with her. ,,,,she quit and went else were the year before ,, because she heard rumors of a possible attack,, had a moslem friend tell me in July something bad was going to happen, Moslems are not the problem in it self ,wack o Moslems are the problem,, but then wack o Christians have been just as bad , if you don’t believe me just ask a Jew or read some history. We’re have all the flowers gone? When will they ever learn? You know the song Reply NRP 09/11/2017 0ldhomesteader Hard day today is, I beleive we all lost something on this day 16 years ago…. The song….I remember it well….. Reply Big Ben 09/11/2017 Never forget who did this! Reply Dennis 09/11/2017 I’ve read the many varied comments on September 11, 2001. Like most, I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing as it unfolded that day. I consider myself as tough as most men. Like many, I wanted to kick some serious butt. I’m also a committed believer, which most times helps me temper my responses. It’s a daily battle. I challenge folks to visit YouTube and search for Alan Jackson’s song “Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning)”. When I feel myself losing sight of the goal, I listen to this song. I’m a 67 year old man who has spent his life trying to position myself between those who do evil and innocent, weaker people. This song brings me back to what’s important, and makes me cry like a child in the process. Reply Lauren 09/12/2017 “Have You Forgotten” is another one. Reply JJ 09/11/2017 Your prayers, YOUR everlasting prayers worked!! I have my husband back!! He stood in the bathroom and shaved himself –since I found out I don’t know shoot about shaving a 15 day beard!! Thank all of you and God bless each and every one. I take him for his follow up Wednesday with the neurosurgeon and will ask if I can take him home. I play nice mostly, but not today!!!! The facility was real upset today when I brought in a stylist that shaved off the half head of hair left after surgery….hey!!! I offered to clean the floor(but the lady I just randomly asked at a shop to shave his head cleaned it for me) There are still great people in the world!!! Yes, I paid her. Hey, I don’t ask permission to shave my husband’s head, folks….they should have had a salon…JMO. He looks like Kojak now. Today, he stayed awake longest in 15 days–from before 2 till 9. He ate homemade spaghetti for a late lunch. And God is gonna get me but when I left tonight, the feeding tube that had left a messy bed due to leaking was leaking again!!! Okay, I’ll just have to pray about laughing cause maybe it’s payback????!!! He even called his work buddy and told him where the charger was for the hand held computer that is used to take up logs. Thanks!!!!! Everyone that thougth of us. Oh, yeah, the team that comes in and preaches about how important it is for family to be prepared for a return to home..blah–blah–blah– I just smile and say yassuh!! Yassuh sir. I’s understand,, Yassuh, sir!! I will never darken their doors again. Reply Antique Collector 09/12/2017 JJ Look for my comments in the Saturday posting on this subject. Reply hermit us 09/12/2017 To stage that day would have been impossible and CNN captured it all so they must have been in on it too – stupidest BS I have ever heard.. Non are so blind as those that will not see. Reply hermit us 09/12/2017 Oldhomesteader Be very careful of who you let into your group. You may be killed and fed to the mystical bigfoot as a sacrifice by some of these people. I was hoping that the crazy conspiracy nuts would refrain from spewing their garbage on this site that promotes common sense and realism. Let us hear the real garbage from over the edge like how Trump is being manipulated by mystical powers of the deep state and how he was made to create the hurricanes. All this of course so that the legislation could be extended that allow THEM to listen to all my phone calls. Ha. Who gives a $h*t. Good luck in Galt’s Gulch. Reply 0ldhomesteader 09/12/2017 Not sure how to take your comment ,i was just passing on my first hand experience ,,DD worked in 5 ,i use to have to go to the ‘city’ on business , after the bomb in the garage there was a lot of talk. There were people that were told not to go to work that day that I have talked with ,just telling it as I know it As far as some one trying to kill me ,,that has happened before ,,I’m here ,,there not ,,,,,,, And remember I know were you live. How about I bring some ribs and we can have a bar be. Reply Lauren 09/12/2017 I think he meant that some people are extremely fanatical about their conspiracies (true or not) and might take exception to a differing opinion. Reply hermit us 09/12/2017 Exactly Thanks 0ldhomesteader 09/12/2017 Hermit us ,,,,ribs or steak? 0ldhomesteader 09/12/2017 As a SEAL I was UDT qualified when I first saw the vid of the building going down my first thought was a demo job , but as I learned more I don’t think so ,, I saw the what looked like exploding charges at the lower levels I think that was most likely the air being compressed in the elevator shaft and blowing out at elevator door ,as far as the clean drop, a failure of the center core would do just that , info I was given ,the steel work had the fire proof insulation removed ,steel will not take that much heat ,so did it happen the way we were told,, I think so ,,, were we told the truth as how it happend ,, and why ,,not a snowballs chance in hell ,did gov cover up that it blew it ?yep ,,,was it a plot some ones part ? ????who had the most to gain ????did the 19 do it ,,sure ,,who had a massive insurance on the buildings ,,,,follow thr money Reply Leave a Reply Cancel reply Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.