Do Liberal Preppers Have Skills, Supplies, Attitude To Survive SHTF?

Liberal Preppers DO exist, but they should be prepared to learn some of their past positions will change as they assimilate.

As in ‘ALL FIREARMS ARE BAD’ – umm – nope. Bad People making Bad Choices with Firearms are bad. Good Guys with Firearms aren’t nearly as harmful, (except to those who threaten them).

A liberal prepper will “expect” certain things to happen. A conservative Prepper expects the unexpected and will adapt and overcome.

A liberal prepper will use their moral superiority to get what they want. Standing on your doorstep they will say, “We all have to share. It is the moral thing to do.” The conservative prepper will reply, “what is moral about standing on my doorstep and saying, “I want what you have, what you worked for, gave up your time and energy for and paid for yourself.” This will occur as the liberal prepper organizes the “community response plan” or when they run out of supplies.

Emotional response for the liberal prepper will be extreme when the situation becomes tough. They will either curl up and die or become violent to survive. The conservative prepper will be analyzing, communicating, heightening their OPSEC, and continuing to prepare for this emotional response.

Stay frosty.

An excellent example of the “emotional swing” occurred after a soldier was shot in Ottawa, Canada. This person was against guns, hated them. They believed in multiculturalism and all the other “ism’s”. When the killing occurred her first response was, “they should be shot!” A while later they went back to hating guns.

One more thing, maybe. I will be thinking about this topic all day so there may be more to come.

Good friends, a couple, come to your house when life becomes tough. One is conservative and has great skills. The other is a liberal. What do you do? Would you risk having a time bomb in your midst in order to have the skilled person?

#1 There are no liberal preppers.
#2 If there were, they would give all their preps away to the first beggar.
#3 liberals have no guns, so it would be easy to take their stash.
#4 At the first sign of SHTF, liberals would be running to the local government office for help.
#5 Again , there are no liberal preppers.

Well that article should get some folks juices flowing. I don’t underestimate any liberals possible behavior when pressed or pushed into a corner, the usual response is to verbally attack. Now we observe physical attacks, next logic step is weapons which is starting to happen. I don’t think survival is the motivation, my way or the highway is the prime driver. You must live your life as I tell you it should be, it and has to be like me. So, when the SHTF, they will be coming at you to conform to the group, you will stick out if you don’t, then the attack progression begins. So, minimal liberal preppers (truly prepared individuals), but the majority will be reactive and a dangerous bunch.

Probably the worst article you have ever written, ridiculous. It suggests politics plays a role in survival, it does not. It suggests, based on your bias, that liberals generally think the same way with the same mindset, not remotely. It suggests conservatives have all the qualities to survive, even more ridiculous. The vast majority of our conservative brethren are so blinded by conspiracy junkie addiction, beyond out of physical shape, have unrealistic views of their own abilities and show off their little world to friends family and YouTube. I won’t say I am shocked you wrote this, moreover it proves my point; complete lack of being in touch with reality and over inflated sense of importance. You’re a true follower.

I have only one problem with the concept of “liberal prepper”. That is even with my variable power(3-9 power) scope set to the 9 power position I can not visually discern a liberal prepper from just a liberal at 100 yards. Could someone here tell me what the identifying differences are?

Part of the problem, as you indicated in your article, is definitions. The phrase “prepper” has been stigmatized and many liberals are steeped in the idea of squashing badthink in their own minds. That doesn’t make them less preppers if they prepare–it just means they don’t identify as such and so are less likely to be included in the definition.

Likewise, many people identify themselves as “liberal” who don’t fit the modern definition. The word “progressive” has also been purloined, primarily so that Democrats could legally go to the voting areas to campaign, which the constitution says is illegal (look it up). I divide the political “Democrat” from “liberal” as a general course, just like I divide “Republican” from “conservative.” They’re not the same thing.

Both liberals and conservatives are human, and while fewer liberals might be prepared (after all, the .gov is going to Care For Me) I think many will be able to adapt quite well to the new reality. They will survive because they can adapt, and not because of any political leanings.

Conservatives won’t adapt to the new reality any more easily. I currently see the liberals quickly catching up in matters of preparedness, and even surpassing the conservatives in some ways. I can only hope the disasters will hold off until as many people (regardless of political leanings) as possible are ready.

Amazing how abrasive and snarky the language can become when disagreeing with Ken.

The article make perfect scence to me. Nice job Ken

I believe the question and answer rests almost completely on the definition of who’s liberal and who’s conservative.

I live in a region where the average resident is better prepared for long term survival because of their self sufficient (I’ll flesh this term out in a moment) lifestyle, than 90% of the population. These folks, for the most part, are poor. From childhood, they have depended on hunting, fishing, foraging, and raising fruits and vegetables to feed their families. They can their produce, smoke and cure their own meat, repair their own equipment, well, you get the picture. They love their guns, hate abortion, are against gay rights, I could go on and on. Hard core conservatives, right?

BUT….., they have not seen a government handout they don’t like. They “game the system” for medicaid, workman’s comp, food stamps, social security disability, well again, you get the picture. How would you describe them, conservative or liberal?

My closest neighbor, a mile distant, is 75 years old, has been on disability for over 20 years. She has home canned meats, fruits, veggies numbering in the thousands of quarts. Last year, after her husband died, we went through her inventory and gave away over 500 quarts of her canned goods, leaving her with around 1500 jars. This is not counting four large deep freezers filled to the brim. All this accumulated from her own gardens and fruit trees, and deer that she killed herself. Yet, she continues to vote democrat because “them republicans will take my check away from me.”

You would think she would be a “conservative”, but is she?

Lots of people who consider themselves “liberals” don’t know what a liberal is. Recently a famous singer said, “I hate big government; that is why I am a liberal.”

Generally, conservatives are self-reliant, while liberals want the government to take care of them.

Some liberals suddenly decided to become Preppers when Trump was elected. Most of them are in the beginning stages of learning to be self-sufficient — about where some of us were in 2009 when One Second After was published. We have an 8 year head start on them.

Liberals are like cockroaches (AKA international bankers and their political minions and sheeple followers.) They will survive SHTF, just like cockroaches have for eons because they have the tenacity, the audacity and the human arrogance to keep coming after our stuff, even when the world is crumbling around them and even after many of them have been eliminated while attempting to steal from us. They just skitter away (like cockroaches) and keep coming back again and again until they steal, ruin or destroy everything. They truly believe that everything belongs to them to use as they see fit. What’s theirs is theirs and what’s ours is also theirs and woe be unto anyone who believes otherwise. Preppers will turn over their preps to the liberals, either by consent or by conquest. Liberals will be skittering around long after the last prepper has perished.

A true prepper should be prepared to do more than just provide a roof over their head and food in their pantry otherwise the liberals will steal it all.

I dont think preparedness follows political lines, However,

The people i know who are somewhat prepared and liberal tend to have a much rosier vision of what it could be like after some sort of event, they tend to think more of a collective. Some are with it and have skills, supplies and know its going to be difficult, others have supplies but feel we will have to pool what we have to keep everybody going. Thats where we diverge.

I havent struggled to get what i have only to spread it around after everything comes unglued, selfish? Damn right when it comes to food and supplies in a state that has to import everything. I dont really want to help everybody make it through because theres lots of people out there who need to learn the hard way.

So sure, liberal preppers could be fine, but they may be running the biggest social experiment of all time testing just how stong humanity really is and just how fine a line there is between civility and chaos.

Sometimes a persons politics is better left out of the conversation, if everything goes to hell that will definitely be the time to forget politics because that will be counter productive. Free rides will be a thing of the past, EVERYBODY will have to pull together to work, the people who are pulling their weight will be fine, those who dont will be doomed regardless especially if they think they will get handouts every time their belly feels empty.

Harsh? Yes, but talk to me about that after the boats stop coming and the shelves are empty cause right now none of it matters.

I have a close friend in Colorado that sums it up perfectly. We hunted together for many years and he was a outstanding shot on the range. But he could never make meat in the field for one basic reason. He does not have the (Eye of the Tiger). This can be called blood lust or mean streak but it’s not. It’s a cold calmness with resolve to kill or be killed in a tenth of a second with no regret. I have come up against some hard people in my life, most when they see that look in your eye back off. A snowflake would not ever understand a full combat mind set as it is not P.C. Green Hell changed me, the Golan defined me.

“Merriam Webster says the liberal is ‘marked by generosity, and given or provided in a generous and openhanded way.’”
Generous in giving OTHER peoples money and property away, not their own. Studies have shown that conservatives are far more generous with their own money and belongings.

Good article Old Man.
If allowed I would like to make a couple of observations.

First of all, it’s estimated that somewhere between 3 and 5% (if that high) of the people in the US are prepared for a single month of “Lights Out” or TSHTF if you prefer. That’s not a lot of Conservatives AND/OR Liberals combined. It is also a fact that the .gov cannot and/or will-not provide if a major SHTF happens; look again at Katrina, what an embarrassment to the .gov.

Second, it’s obvious after the past election whom the violent people are when they lose, if anyone wants to discuss that just look a little at history. Liberals have shown their true core, and WILL become even more/extremely violent if TSHTF, period. As will ALL people when they have nothing and their families/wife/children are starving.

Next, Liberals are currently buying more firearms/ammunition/supplies than all of the rest of the population combined. Simple fact, they (Liberals) are arming up and building up supplies at an alarming rate; about time.

Forth, the Human Animal is 100% violent/ruthless when it comes to survival, Liberals are no different. I agree that the mindset of Liberals or Socialist is one of “give me give me” but when there is nobody handing them, OR Republicans, what is needed to survive, there IS going to be a serious problem.

I believe that if someone, even a Liberal, develops the mindset of preparing, it changes their thinking. Realizing that if one need’s to have a month’s of supplies and maybe a few “different” skills than normal, they become a little less of a Wacko Liberal OR Republican, and start to realize that the Country and World is not all Unicorns and Roses. When someone opens their eyes and finally sees what ‘could’ happen, it makes a difference to how they see the world.

Ken asked in the title to the Article “Do Liberal Preppers Have Skills, Supplies, Attitude To Survive SHTF?” I believe if you think they don’t; then you need to get your head out of the sand and start realizing more about Human Nature and drop the politics when it comes to “Lights Out” and the need to prepare.

Just because Liberals have different ideas/attitude on things does NOT mean they are stupid when it comes to surviving. Everyone seems to think that it will only be “Those Liberals” that will be busting your door down for your supplies; ya had better think about that other 95-97% that DON’T PREPARE at all, including the righteous Republicans.

Finally, I don’t think it’s wise to label someone as a “Liberal Prepper”, a “Republican Prepper” or a “Buddhist Prepper” it defeats the fact that someone/anyone is preparing. Personally I’m ecstatic that ‘they/whoever’ are preparing and I would do anything I could to help supply, train, teach, assist as I could (as long as not some wacko radical nut-job of course), period.

Just my 3¢

A “liberal prepper” seems to be a contradiction. Therefore, we must reevaluate our premises. Thanks to everyone who has been questioning what “liberal” means.

For quite a while, I have been questioning my political identity, not because my beliefs have changed, but because the labels don’t seem to fit. Many of my conservative friends have said that my beliefs align with theirs. My liberal friends describe me as being “a full step to the Left of Bernie.” Is this a contradiction?

I am currently thinking that “liberal” and “conservative” are more about attitude than policy. And Left/Right/Center are more about policy than attitude. Up here in the mountains, I know many “rugged individualists” who supported Bernie (not me, he is too much of a globalist).

Most of my friends who consider themselves “Left’ and love their guns are really quiet about it for fear of ostracization.

I really believe that we need to get past these labels that are used to divide us if we are ever going to solve the problems that we all are faced with. In the meantime, I will celebrate diversity, fight for equal rights, advocate for personal responsibility, smaller decentralized government, environmental and economic justice (not mercy), and above all prep as insurance against the inevitable and horrific results of Deep State policy.

For reasons that will self-manifest, as soon as food supplies begin dwindling, in any given area, you’ll be able to easily discern who is a “liberal prepper”.

The only arbiter of who is right will be “history”. We only have to watch other countries on the downhill slide to see what is coming if we do not change our path; Venezuela, Greece, etc.

Most people will sacrifice freedom for security (that cradle to grave mentality) so I see only a small percentage that will really stand on their own two feet and resist socialism (liberalism). Perhaps the 3% are all that are true conservatives.

I think of it like this…
We’re all on a ship, call it the Titanic…
You’ve heard some people say the ship is badly damaged-
Do you listen or just party on
To the one who listens, another person says
Hey, let me show you the bowels of the ship
Do you go or do you say someone else will take care of it
even though you believe there is likely serious damage, what could I do anyways
Say your the one who goes with the person to see the bowels of the ship
and you see it with your own eyes, this ship is seriously damaged
water is gushing in- situation critical
Do you freeze or panic? Or even though it might take ever ounce of courage and your knees might be shaking, take a deep breath and think/say
What is my plan to survive and get through this?
And then do it.

Whatever one’s political leaning or not, each person has a choice to make.
May each one hear have wisdom to choose wisely.
Peace out~

The fault is in ourselves as Pogo said. In human nature. Take words.
Words can hurt and words can dehumanize. Look at any list of acronyms and
count what percentage constitutes name calling and you will see human
nature not at its best.

Once you are a prepper you join the community that aims to become pre-
pared. Presumably you will help other preppers no matter their political
belief. All other discussion is wasted time. IMHO

It’s sad what this great nation has become, a polarized, paranoid country run by sociopathic politicians and owned by the super wealthy. No one is looking to the future problems that grow ever closer.. Whether civilization will end from war, disease, climate change, economic collapse, resource depletion, or ??? I don’t know. I do know it can’t continue much longer like this.

I’ve identified myself as a John Stuart Mill liberal my entire adult life. Live and let live. I’ve been living off-grid for over 5 years. I grow fruit and vegetables that are locally adapted and will gladly share my seeds and plants with my neighbors should TEOTWAWKI occur in my lifetime. So
Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won’t be any trumpets blowing,
Come the judgment day,
On the bloody morning after
One tin soldier rides away.

I believe A. American had a liberal prepper in his second book. Pat was basically a liberal, as best I can tell. Prepped for herself and her family, but “Let’s throw everything into one pot and everybody share equally,” for everybody else. Too bad, she didn’t make it to the halfway point in the book.
– Papa S.

My first thought when I saw “Liberal Preppers” was “just look at a map of the popular vote in the Presidential election”. If, like me you assume (never a good thing but works for a generalization ) that all liberals voted for Clinton, you see all the “Liberals”, for the most part, on the East and West Coast and Chicago. Not a good survival situation, even IF they have bug out locations, getting out is going to be an issue, unless there is Adequate warning.

In as much as I live on the East Coast, within 100 miles of DC, my second thought is “GOOD FOR THEM!” At least those that DO get out will not be arriving 100% dependent on the surrounding communities. But, I have a feeling that those who do get out will not be those who have started prepping but rather those who are ruthless enough to take from anyone they can. That will be ugly and what we in the outlying rural communities need to be prepared for.

And if we substitute “Liberal” for “Pacifist” (as most liberals are pacifist) I’ll quote Robert Heinlein, First : “Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accept the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay-and claims a halo for his dishonesty” and second ““A pacifist male is a contradiction in terms. Most self-described pacifists are not pacific; they simply assume false colors. When the wind changes, they hoist the Jolly Roger.”

RS

We are all speaking in pretty general terms here, and we all know there will be exceptions. That said, I believe humans are creatures of habit, and that most of us have difficulty accepting ideas and situations that differ from our own experiences and closely held beliefs.

I think one of the biggest things that sets those of us who prepare apart from others is acceptance of the concept that things can go very wrong and that we may be on our own to cope, and in some cases to survive.

People who become fad preppers because of an election are reacting to headlines and likely have not changed their long-held beliefs that kept them from being prepared before now. Sure, most of us can think back to an “aha” moment that led us to where we are today. But, how many people really undergo a total sea-change in their thinking and beliefs?

I think people who tend to label themselves as “progressive” expect their tax dollars to buy them government support in all situations, so even if they do believe a SHTF is possible, they would likely expect to be cared for. That is certainly not a mindset geared toward true preparation. Sadly, there are plenty of folks who think of themselves as conservatives who tend to think the same way.

Bottom line: I think liberal thinking people will find it much harder to survive a true SHTF. Buying some extra supplies or a gun will not be enough to change the deeply-held beliefs of a true liberal, who will most likely waiting for a government rescue. Sadly, there will be plenty of conservative thinking people right there with them.

I’m a conservative prepper. Afghan War vet, too. I know other conservatives who think that they’ll be outlasting everyone with their guns and ammo. Unfortunately, they don’t know this fact – tactics without strategy is mere noise, and weapons without tactics are mere toys. Shooting at a static target down a range is not the same as tactical training, e.g. understanding enfilade and defilade, which are very basic military tactics. Most preppers are overweight and out of shape; running around in their 45 lb armor and carrying their weapons will fatigue them in 15 min. Overall, people who think that they’re combat-ready will get a rude slap in the face if the Schumer ever hits the fan. They’ll learn that they’re more low speed/high drag than they realize.

Everyone has read stories of the uber-wealthy buying luxury bunkers stocked with multi-year supplies. Many, if not most, are also very vocal liberals. Are they preppers? Of course they are, just not the type you meet on these pages. Many of them are also the same folks you read about touting the need for a great reduction in world population, a reset if you will.

I’ve long said that people in the “upper echelon” are privy to knowledge we at the bottom only occasionally get scraps of. Our best “early warning system” may well be watching the actions of these “liberal preppers”. They may well telegraph impending disaster.

Can’t we all just get along?

Remembered an article on the evening news after Trump was elected, a liberal or what ever term one would apply to this person. He went out purchased guns, freeze dried foods, stock piled as the conservatives were going to come get them due to their liberal beliefs. He was going to take conservatives out, as they were dangerous people.

My first thought was REALLY??? All we/I ever wanted is for everyone be responsible for their own actions, take care of their own families, not expect .gov to raise their children from cradle to grave.

When a family member was married to liberals, you see what their thinking pattern can be. Yes, I am giving a generalization but after ex-three wives and all of them falling from the same tree… enough said.

My other doomer blog has both liberal and conservatives and lots of other viewpoints but we respect each other and know who the real enemy is, it’s people. We share our views of the future, our plans, and interesting information we’ve found, including humorous things.

This snowflake finds anger and hatred to be very unpleasant and so I’m leaving. Good luck to all in the coming days and good-bye

So how many of the liberals you know have said to you, ” I know where I am going when SHTF? And how many conservatives have said that, or do they say where can I get that?

All the more reason to form bonds NOW with like thinkers. Time to sort out the chaff,, being a lib is a sickness that sometimes can be cured in some ,those that can’t can be feed for the hogs if need be, hard yes,, but on par with there thinking toward us ,
Who is John galt? And why dose it matter?
One can find the answer At Galt’s gulch,
Time for Ice coffee and chocolate clif bars.

Gotta weigh in here. Current Conservatives/Libertarians are classical , small ” l ” liberals. The left world wide does not really believe in any ” ism ” anymore. The left today consists of those who intend to rule us as their property and those who are stupid enough to think they will be better off if the ” ruling elite ” has unlimited and total power. They just want as much of what other people have as they can get , and they’ll give up their freedoms to get it. Their gods are fame and intoxication. In any collapse or upheaval , most of them will revert to outright savagery as soon as they know the cops aren’t coming. The mis – labelled liberals think they are prepping by making the ruling elite all powerful.

It seems that perhaps the word ” liberal “, has evolved to include new meanings. We’ve seen their response to the 2016 election. Perhaps that response on steroids may be expected if/when Stuff Hits The Fan. Especially when they realize that all of their needs can’t possibly be met. It ain’t gonna be good.

I’m not sure HOW conservative OR liberal I am anymore.

I seem to have far more intellectually in common with everyone on this site than most of the people I’ve actually met in “real life”.

I am your definition, judgmental, cantankerous, willing to call bovine excrement on all politicians, and those espousing the Law of Entitlement (forced charitable giving as I call it), and a host of other parasitic social behaviors.

I read The article with interest, and I’m fairly certain that most of the self-professed “social warriors” I personally know, cannot handle a normal work day traffic commute, much less a true crisis. I highly doubt these same people, would unconditionally give of themselves, or sustenance to anyone, unless they get complete and total credit for it. (And the requisite participation trophy for doing so)

I pay them no mind anymore, I’ve not seen the hordes or even small groups of self-anointed “antifas”, doing much of anything other than smoking weed, getting drunk, and relieving themselves in public as a political gesture of contempt.

Could they mob up and attack normal folks?

Only IF and when the normal members of society are utterly defenseless and in dire need of assistance. Other than that, these parasitical “social justice warriors”, greatest personal risk, is their cell phone bill coming due.

I was trying to stay out of this one (topic of discussion) but I have noticed some things in the past 10 years:

1. Political affiliation appears to be independent of one being a taker and a user of people and things versus a saver and salvager of people and things. I am of the latter category. I think most on this site are also savers and salvagers as well. Savers and salvagers tend to develop impressive stores and the topic of supply and resupply is never far from their minds. Sustainability is an admirable character trait. Takers and users tend to move from place to place, marriage to marriage and job to job because they burn out the people and regions they live in. I know good people that happen to vote different than I do. I also know of people I do not like or associate with that happen to be Republican. When I teach somebody pistol techniques, I try to never get into the discussion on politics. I teach and help people of many different backgrounds.

2. In an emergency, sometimes you are forced to work with people you may not want to work with. Patrol Car rules: We are partners this shift. We back each other up so we can go home at end of watch. It does not mean we are going to be A$$hole Buddies and go to each others Birthday parties off duty butt we will cover each other. while on patrol. Life and work sometimes means that you have to work under less than optimal conditions. There is no requirement that says you must be friends with your patrol car partner. Not talking politics while on the job is part of that etiquette. Start the shift by agreeing to disagree and talk about something else.

3. Mr E. E. Norton brought this point up in a recent post about his cousin the idealistic school teacher. The sad fact is that current society needs people like Mr Borton and his cousin. You do not want the embittered old, pissed-off veteran of numerous armed conflicts to be teaching grammar to 4rth graders. Likewise, the idealistic people would not do well working in a maximum security mental health unit in a locked facility either. (my current day job.)

I think there is room in this word for all of us. Predictions on who would survive a disaster? It is a crapshoot because of the large factor called LUCK. Sometimes people are in the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time.

To Sothernman: Your comment about your friend that was a target shooter that could not put meat in the freezer. there is one word that motivated me to become a good shot at a relatively young age and that word is:

hunger.

If you are in the field in the fall and you have minimal money in the bank and your home pantry has nothing but tea bags and ramen noodles, these conditions truly motivate one to shoot true and track your game/dinner down forthwith. I have lived under such conditions for around 5 years before getting a better paying job after college. I vowed that I never want to go back to those days living on the margins of society.

Life for me is better these days with a steady job “in town” but I still get the odd question from many of: “where did you learn to shoot?” especially when I pull out my old worn 22 rifle or the worn old 22 revolver from the old battered case.

Trivia point: The gun that put the most meat in the freezer each year was the 22 pistol because of winning Turkey shoots in the Fall and Ham Shoots in the Spring. The 30-06 is a close second with venison and wild/feral pigs. The varmint rifles fed the birds ( ravens, crows and turkey vultures.)

I came onto this article kind of late, but Holy Crap ! It doesn’t take much to stir up a hornets nest these days. It does seem like people are becoming more polarized and edgy. Then again politics and religion have always been sensitive topics at the best of times, probably since both concepts began. I am as opinionated and firm in certain beliefs as the next guy [ sorry, ” person ” ] but I like this site over all others because generally things are kept relatively civil without a lot of fuss and bluster. Hope it continues that way.

The lefties KNOW that unlike the evil, insane, “Alt-right” preppers, the lefties are perfectly justified in being concerned about an uncertain future.

Michael Moore is now screaming that he cannot live in a country where Trump is president.
I was under the impression that Moore could afford a private flight to the socialist utopia of his choice. Venezuela is nice this time of year, and Moore doesn’t have to worry about food for a long time. He carries his backup supply wherever he goes.

I am waiting for the liberal’s to “Bring It”. Would not mind lifting the top of their skulls off with a well placed 30.06. Just done with all the B.S. in this country. I would say all that matters is that you are ready and pay attention to detail.

To slingshot: 30-06 for the headshot? so wasteful. I will stick with 223 Remington that way I can carry more ammo. ( 150 grain bullet versus 55 grain bullet. ) I hear where you are coming from though and understand the sentiment.

I consider myself fairly liberal. THAT DOES NOT MEAN DEPENDENT ….on anyone. Least of all our government. The government will be the first to try to gather supplies from those of us that have them. I beleive in equal rights, I am an animal advocate, I fight to save our environment. I also beleive we should limit our borders and keep our guns. I can hunt, I am a crack shot, and I have been prepping several years, but due to physical limitations, must “bug in.” I will go to ANY length to protect my family, and what I have. All that being said..there are many, many folks near me that consider themselves conservative republicans. At the same time..cussing the government that reduces their medicaid and food stamps. Taxing them the same as those rich folks. So really….who depends on the government? The fact is, in a SHTF situation..more is better, safer, and stronger. so I fail to see why trying to commune and share resources is thought to be a bad thing. There is strength in numbers. Of course, each should be able to contribute in skill, supply, leadership, protection, gardening..etc. Fact is.. political thinking has no relevance in a SHTF situation. It becomes survival. Those banded together have a better chance of retaining what they have, protecting their families, and rebuilding, if necessary.. So if that is liberal thinking, so be it. I would rather be part of a functioning village of folks that are independent, strong, look out for each other, and contribute, than be on my own when a village of looters comes by. Don’t get me wrong…it may not happen..finding this village of people, and I will fight til the death..of someone..but the winning chance lies in numbers and skill.

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Regardless of which side of the fence you’re standing on…you’re still behind it…

I think a bit of perspective s needed here. Mother Earth News was a hugely successful magazine for years prior to it becoming commercialized. I think it might be considered the 1st “prepper” magazine. It was started by and operated by a grassroots movement to get back to nature and simplify. I buy the older magazines every chance I get as they are wonderful resources. The contributors were about as liberal as you can get. They shared knowledge, swapped seeds championed the barter system and made a lot of sense all in all. Another example of the prepper mentality from “Liberally” inclined people would be the excellent foxfire books. A group of highschoolers in Georgia led by a liberal teacher went to huge lengths to talk to older generations and save their knowledge for posterity. If you haven’t read these books I recommend tem highly. There is no sense trying to reinvent the wheel when our forefathers (and mothers) have already been there and done that. Another magazine I read and admire is the Backwoodsman. High in content with very little advertising. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime, Share knowledge when you can it’s not a conservative idea, it’s not a liberal idea … it;s just common sense Just my .02. Your milage may vary …

Liberal Prepper seems to me anyway… to be an “Oxymoron” type of word.
You know, its along the lines of “Jumbo Shrimp” or,.. “Alone Together” “Original Copy” and most importantly: Great Depression.

Very interesting conversations. I’m a poor prepper, read when I can, get what I can, when I can, how I can, when I have the money. I think it is right to question the lingo being tossed around. One commenter quoted from the A. American series about a hoarder who wanted others to share their food. I liked the books. As I see it here, to assume one group of people or other has nothing to offer, or to assume they have no skills; reminds me of something I learned in the military- ASSUME makes and a$$$ or of you and me. I’ve read “One Second After”, there were many lessons to learn. There were many types of people who were thrust together. I remember one character, a hippy dude, who loved fixing old VW vans and bugs. He was a major asset to the community. Assuming liberals will not have skills or what it takes is a kin to believing a conservative has their act together and that is a major miscalculation. For my part, I’m right of center, don’t believe in alot my supposed “party” wants me to believe. So I guess you would call me a happy RINO.

I’m a libtard, snowflake prepper. I served, I qualified as a sniper. In my opinion you can’t tell if a person is a liberal, a republican or even a tranny from 50 yards but if you come after me and my stuff after the shtf I WILL shoot you stone cold dead and any mother fracker with you. Until the shtf, I’ll pay my taxes, encourage universal health care and care for my fellow man. After the shtf you’re just a puff of pink in my HK’s scope.

I find these types of threads kind of odd. I’m in my late forties and generally vote Democrat. Been prepping for 21 years and have a great prepper group that has both Democrsts and Republicans in it. Eight of which are ex military, 4 of those retired after 20 years. We are split almost evenly, including the military guys as far as Democrat and Republican. “Liberals” have been prepping just as long as those on the right. Generally we believe in gun ownership, as well as all of the other prepping. Food, medical, security, bOB’s etc. although we already have an actual retreat, a homestead, nearby. We don’t believe in government handouts. But we do believe the government should help people. Healthcare being one. Especially the military guys as the VA sucks and it doesn’t help their extended family members. As far as mindset….not sure what hard choices anyone is talking about. Defending our retreat? Yes. Raiding people? No. Helping others or possible refugees? Yes. Letting freeloaders…freeloading? No.
We all agree the government sucks. Including Trump. He’s an idiot, even though some of our members voted for him. We have huge gardens and farm animals and we share stuff like extra eggs, in exchange for chicken feed. So to label “Liberals” as new to prepping or unable to survive that’s a fallacy of generalizing and labeling. In OUR group there’s only 2 kinds of people. People who do good, help others, work together, protect the environment, etc. and the other type are people who only look out for themselves and family, don’t volunteer, think big companies should do whatever they want, and are unreliable or close minded. There’s also a third type…thugs and crooks. So I get confused with so many who think liberals haven’t been prepping and won’t survive.

Anyone else remember “tune in, turn on, and drop out?” A lot of folks who attempted this failed and, if they survived, came crawling back to middle America. Quite a few, however, discovered the strength in themselves to forge a self-sufficient homesteading lifestyle. My experience is that many who made it were of a predominately “liberal” mindset.

I grew up in a family of union members who voted democrat and were as self-sufficient as possible given their circumstances. I chose a different work and political path and have been/am as self-sufficient as circumstances have permitted.

I guess it comes down to one’s criteria for defining a prepper. Lifestyle actions alone? Does motivation matter? Or is it just about how we plan to survive a total grid-down situation? Well-rounded? As others have eloquently stated here, can’t tell one from another at 500 feet, or by looking at gardens, pantries, gun safes, or skill sets. Political persuasion? Live and let live, I say, even after TEOTWAWKI, unless you choose to try to mess with me and mine.

On the other hand, the shrill lock-step mind-set clung to by the far fringes of every political ilk seems to be born of fear. And that fear seems to have especially permeated the young in the universities and urban areas. The yapping class has co-opted the media. Social discourse is constructed of alarmist rhetoric. The extremists are defining the norm in many people’s minds. And a frightened animal, including humans, is a dangerous animal.

Anonymous, anarchists, antifa are all current manifestations of the same destroyer mentality we’ve seen in unruly group behavior in this county for decades. Local and state political leaders stand by and do little or nothing while the religious leaders wring their hands, blame the President, and call for marches on Washington. In fact, they are not leaders: true leadership demands that they stand up to the mob and rebuke them.

My late-night rant, FWIW.

Thanks oldhomesteader.
You enjoying this rain?

Tommyboy, yeppers. Hope not but fear so.

Anony mee ,,,,next time your at raintree we can meet you there. ,,,yep most folks go back

I am a liberal.
I own several fire arms, and want more.
I believe that abortion should be legal.
That religion should not be in our government, it belongs in places of worship, and home.
I dont like people who tell me what to do, think, or what to believe in (unlike conservatives). I truly do believe in “Dont tread on me”.

Fiscal responsibility? Conservative politicians lower taxes and spend more. At least “tax and spend liberals” try and pay for the fed deficit.

Tax breaks for corporations and the billionaires… results in trickle down economics, which produces jobs… right. They bought back their stocks and pocketed the tax savings.

How about trickle up economics. I live pay check to pay check, give me a real tax break (not $20 a month), and I’ll spend every penny of it on the economy.

And every liberal I have met, is similar to me. Not all liberals live in academia.

Oh… and we hate racists.

Dan, my take:
I am a conservative on many issues.
I own several firearms and don’t need anymore.
I recognize that abortion is legalized via a supreme court decision.
I am aware that the constitution prohibits the federal government from establishing a religion or preventing the free exercise thereof.
I enjoy conversation and debate from all points of view and endeavor to grow in understanding of those with whom I disagree.
Fiscal responsibility is not practiced by either political parties. Conservative and liberal ideologies however vastly differ.
Tax breaks for liberal-owned and operated corporations like Google and Amazon and Apple keep their money overseas, Trump has changed tax laws to bring it home giving many laborers and professionals a substantial ”raise”.
I don’t live from pay check to pay check, nor do any conservative preppers I know. But I do agree that most liberals are similar and do not belong in academia.

It’s is foolish to label huge swaths of people though. I think that was the point. Think about all the people you’ve known, they don’t all fit into easy boxes. I’m thinking about just my coworkers. There also all pretty cool. LOL

I think I missed the joke on the labels. Pretty sure the guy was being ironic. Oh well, take care, time to work thanksgiving prep.

I have two liberal friends who are now preppers to an extent since covid. Both has chickens and a garden. Can not get one to stock more than 3 weeks. The other is working stocking only 3 months. But a huge change from a year ago when both thought they would come to my house.No way I said. Both believe the Govt will eventually help. We dont talk polotics. But they do ask me for tips. So it is a start.