We’re Creatures Of Habit & Routines – Why Not Break Them Once In Awhile

the-road-not-taken
(the road little traveled)

We are creatures of habit. Not saying that it’s necessarily a bad thing. Just an observation. Might it be good to break the routines once in awhile?

Think about it…

How often do you park in the same general parking spot location every day at work?

Do you always park in the same area when you go to your grocery store?

When you take a vacation, do you often go to the same places as before?

If you go to church, do you sit in the same (or close to the same) place each time?

Do you drive the same way to work every day?

Do you drive the same way to ( fill-in-th-blank ) whenever you go there?

If you eat lunch in a work cafeteria do you sit at the same table nearly every time?

Do you mostly eat the same foods all the time?

Do you always get your news from the same place or places?

Think of all your routines and how they are often repeated time after time.
How often do you get out of our ‘comfort zone’?

Why is it that we so easily fall into the same routines while rarely trying new things, new ways, new places, new routes of travel, a different schedule, new or different ‘anything’?

I suppose it’s simply part of our human nature to a large extent.

The thing is, the world is immense. And throughout most of our lives we only see and experience an extremely tiny slice of it as we ‘travel the same roads’ of life. We rarely venture out – even in our own neighborhoods and localities.

There is so much more to see, so much more to experience – all of which affects our own view of the world, who we are, and how we fit in it.

It might do us good to push ourselves out of our routines from time to time. To get outside of our comfort zone. To experience a new direction. To learn something new.

One day you might take the back roads to where you’re going instead of the main road.

Maybe go for a walk through your neighborhood. Look around. Park in a different place next time. Do something different.

It might be healthy to break your habits and routines once in awhile.
Just saying…

66 Comments

  1. How often do you park in the same general parking spot location every day at work?
    — Every day. There is sort of a shade tree there. I’m first to arrive.

    Do you always park in the same area when you go to your grocery store?
    — No. Typically looking for large spots, far away. Big truck now.

    When you take a vacation, do you often go to the same places as before?
    — Never. Except when kids were young and I wanted to show them something nice, where I’d been before.

    If you go to church, do you sit in the same (or close to the same) place each time?
    — I’ve tried. Still don’t ‘get’ church.

    Do you drive the same way to work every day?
    — Yeah. Unless there’s a wreck. Fastest A to B is primary concern.

    Do you drive the same way to ( fill-in-th-blank ) whenever you go there?
    — No. Typically I plot the most efficient route given time of day, weather, social conditions.

    If you eat lunch in a work cafeteria do you sit at the same table nearly every time?
    — Lunch? That’s for entitled hourly folks. I’m lucky to get time to guzzle a bottled water a few times in 12 hours… before heading to my evening gig. Might grab a sandwich between jobs. Ya know because not all of us out here can earn survival income by driving around in a leased bimmer, being gorgeous and slinging BS.

    Do you mostly eat the same foods all the time?
    — No. I can find food from 100 different countries within a 45 minute drive from my home. For me, that’s one of the few benefits of living here.

    Do you always get your news from the same place or places?
    — No. I have my bookmarks, but they are flexible. Recently discovered a few very interesting RU sites. Heavy propaganda, yes. But an alarming track record for accuracy.

    1. what are the RU sites you found with alarming track records for accuracy

  2. Nope, I’m staying in my groove for now.
    If you watch nature you will see a rhythm that you can almost set your clock by. Animals and birds travel, feed, and water near the same time daily.

    Do I ever want to see a big city again – nope. I see mountains, valleys, rivers, lakes, forests, … where I live, so why would I leave. To see a polluted ocean – nope. To see a drought affected area – nope. To look into a volcano crater – nope. To eat foods from unknown origins that give me gas or the runs – nope.

    Yes, being predicable can be dangerous in a SHTF situation, so that is when I turn the tables on the routine.

  3. If I don’t park in the same spot I might not remember where I parked my car 😂

  4. Started playing Golf at age 65, does that sound like I’m in a Rut??? HAHAHAH
    Heck even ol-Blue has NO idea what’s going on day to day, I actually see him roll his eyes at me sometimes, sort of like “You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!” :-) :-)

    For the moist part I’m probably also in a Routine, Sleep at night, Wake (hopefully) as the Sun comes up. S-S-n-S first thing than a little grub, so-on and so-on. But for the most part, I’m 90% breaking the Habits and Routine, and ALWAYS do 3-4 things differently each day to help break out of that Stereotype “Old Guy” thing.
    Actually, just did a “Lights Out” this past weekend at 97 degrees, SOB it was hot and took a LOT of rehydrating. BUT was defiantly out of the norm. AND well worth the time to learn a few things.

    But yes, 99.9999% of the Human Animal is built on Routine and Habit. It’s at times called a Comfort Zone, and most are afraid of the unknown.

    1. NRP,
      Maybe not in “a Rut” playing golf, but I bet you see the “rough” quite a bit, hunh?

      1. Minerjim;
        Ahhhh hell no, I’m a great Golfer….. bsbsbs
        I do have a question, how in the HELP does one lose 3 golf balls over the fence on a Par Three???? HAHAHAHA

        1. NRP,
          Well that is kind of easy on the “Putt-putt golf” course in our town!

        2. NRP
          In the lost golf ball department, being in the ruff. Which out of your comfort zone & what a *slice* you have in whacking.😂🏌️‍♀️🏐

        3. Antique Collector;
          Actually I like driving the ball to the “rough”, I get the beat the crapo out of the weeds and grass trying to get the friggen ball 10 feet…. HAHAHAHA

          Golf, the other four letter word. :-)

        4. Rut?? When I go a new route on the morning walk Charlie (dog) looks at me, turns around and heads to our regular walk.

        5. aka;
          A question, who wins the discussion on route of travel?
          You or Charlie? :-) :-)

    2. Ive been thinking about making a nice little 4 hole course on our property,,, good for practice and just fun, plus a good nose thumb to the county

  5. Yes, we are creatures of habit, like animals. I think about this every time I hunt deer or elk, waiting for them to come back into the areas they move through everyday. Then I think about my habits, and how if some alien hunter from outer space comes down to hunt me, I’ll be an easy target too.
    Mix it up??? I find that my daily routine has me walking my farm perimeter twice a day with Ol Jake. If I walk it the opposite direction, I always find that I see things that I have not seen walking my normal direction. just an observation.

    1. Minerjim;
      “… and how if some alien hunter from outer space comes down to hunt me…”
      You don’t need to worry about that my friend, that Alien is going to look at you and say “We don’t want that Crunchy OLD fart, to tough…” HAHAHAHAH

      1. NRP,
        MY exact thoughts when I thought that at the time, just did not mention that !!!HAHAHA! If they come down and try to do a ‘Vulcan Mind-Meld’ on me, they are going to come away very,, very confused!

  6. The animal part of us wants to stay safe and creates routines that keep us that way. The intelligent/spirit part of us can choose to vary those routines.

  7. As I age I am most comfortable when things do not change in my life. However, I think that it breeds complacency and that ,in todays world ,may lead to a real uncomfortable situation. I try and vary things when I can . I think It makes us more aware of things around us , we learn things and it is a good workout for the brain.

  8. Good day, Everyone,
    Good topic! Throughout the year we talk about what we did new this year…it is always interesting to see what we experienced or learned new…
    Recently one in our fam, has become Veggan (vegan + eggs) mainly due to health reasons…
    we have been experimenting with new recipes and it is fun and tasty…
    learning how to prune fruit trees this year…
    when you grow your own food, or even part of it, oh the appreciation of the work that went into it…
    I’m still on my mission to get rid of clutter and things that can be passed on to people who want or need them, creating space in a drawer or closet or corner = happiness, a new or fresh mental attitude…
    sometimes there has to be a clearing out before a new way or new learning experience can unfold
    even taking one new step towards your goal can be really rewarding!
    Good Shepherd bless you!

    1. I have a new rule for myself–if I don’t have a specific place for something, it’s going out.

      1. Lauren;
        If it’s NOT used for 2 years, it’s gone…..
        Now if I could convince to tackle my Conex and start tossing stuff, been there for almost 10 years now :-( :-(

        1. NRP
          You are not thinking about getting rid of that floral printed TP and the solid pink TP that have been stored for years. :)

        2. NRP,
          When you clean out that Conex, let me know. I’ll bring over a trailer and we can toss it all on there. Bet your ‘toss’ stuff is better than most people’s ‘ keep’ pile!!!

    2. Shepherdess from what my Grandmother used to say (and cook when we came over) Veggan (Vegetables and Eggs) was how most folks kept body and soul together during the Great Depression.

      I SIGH with disbelief when folks want to raise just Hens and buy their replacements when the “Girls” (Likely named pets) get old. God made them male and female remember? A Rooster per 10 hens is not that big a bother AND with a broody hen (the only one getting Pet status here) you will have replacements for your chicken AND some to Sell/trade. A switch was what Grand Mom used on nasty roosters, second time was Axe and stewpot. Her Surviving Roosters were nice boys. I hear they have a Rooster Muffler using s strip of double sided Velcro if loud Roosters are not your thing.

      BTW if your worried that a crowing Rooster will draw unwanted visitors, I have visited friends that use the Rooster Mufflers and it quiets them down to LESS than the Hens (Who can be pretty noisy). That and a well insulated chicken house and TRAINING your chickens to come in with whistle and food can get them inside and much quieter for the times trouble is nearby.

      Have you folks priced the cost of a Sexed Pullet? Can you watch a You Tube and learn how to sex a chicken? How many Bags of Chicken Feed can you buy with that money? Jimmy Cracked Corn ditty springs to mind here. Free Range, kitchen scraps, access to compost pile and Cracked Corn is all my Grandmother gave them in Golden Colorado.

      She used to sell chickens to buy feed corn and earn a little “pin money”. Guess I’ll be selling my extra roosters to service your girls post Tractor Supply?

      1. NHMichael
        Good point on the rooster(s). I have to start somewhere and a few hens without the rooster is where I’ll start. Maybe a rooster later when I’ve actually learned something about chickens. Bear with a newbie, while I learn.

        1. Plainsmedic if you look around you will find local eggs for sale signs and phone numbers.

          Please call them ask about their chickens, they will Love to chat about them and maybe you can link up with someone who has Roosters.

          That way your a known face to them if things get Weird and maybe you can buy a rooster from them if you need one.

          BTW to INTRODUCE a new chicken takes time and separation. I’ve used a dog carrier in the chicken yard until they finish their couple of DAYS of squawking at each other before introducing them face to face. Even then I watch for a few days for signs of pecking to hurt.

          A Great way to secure a chicken out of a chicken fight (or just one that is staying away) is a wire coat hanger straitened out with a end reverse V about 3-4 inches deep. Hook a foot and pull off their feet.

          Old Chicken Thief trick friend. My family tree has “colorful souls” in it.

          Good luck with your chickens, my current flock share is in a tribe members chicken yard until I rebuild my Hen House more bear Proof and TRAIN that Bear with a shock wire.

        2. NHMichael
          Yes, we buy “country eggs” routinely. I much prefer them to store bought. A couple of different people sell eggs semi-near me. One is an Amish family. I have noticed they have covered their eggs for sale sign. I assume it is because of the summer heat. As I understand it, they don’t have refrigeration. I’ve been told they buy ice at a local bait shop type place, but I’m not sure how they handle that. Coolers?

          I am a little leary of eggs stored in the near 100 degree temps of late. Maybe they are fine, but I’m guessing the covered sign is an indication of concern.

          The reason for all my questions: Much easier in the long run to build it right the first time. For example your having to rebuild a bear proof coop. If I can glean from those more experienced than I, maybe I’ll avoid mistakes.

        3. Plainsmedic Amish are pretty careful of their Reputation and thus those eggs are safe.

          In fact if you build your Chicken Coop right so they do not poop in the eggs boxes UNWASHED eggs can stay on the counter for at least a week from my knowledge. The “Bloom” on the fresh egg is why. My Grandmother often had a basket of eggs on the kitchen table awaiting a hungry person.

          That SAID please remember that Grandmothers ALSO opened each egg in a small bowl to check it out before dumping it into the rest or the cookie batter. Don’t be a Rotten Egg spark a memory?

          During the Great Depression folks were so desperate that they would knowingly sell bad eggs or lime water as milk to feed their children or buy a ticket elsewhere.

          Not all farmer types were totally honest BUT Reputation is IMPORTANT. Hard to Earn, Easy (too easy) to lose. People TRUST the Amish, not a bad thing eh?

  9. Change is relative. Every year is different when you grow your garden. The weather is different, the soil conditions change, the seeds change, the weed seeds that blow in change, the insect invaders change, … change in nature is infinite – it all depends on how closely you look at it and how you react to this change.
    Is the change in routine just a way to stimulate yourself, fight boredom, … – is this need the reason computer games have taken off, because it feeds that need without the physical effort to actually exert yourself. Shopping malls used to feed the need for change but not so much anymore – but out in nature more is happening all around if one takes the time to notice.

  10. NRP Isn’t it all about compromise? Yesterday i won though with a “fine”! then – we are going this way today and put a leash on him. Not following that Brittany butt down the path …….

  11. I need to break my habit of buying out lunch almost every day. I have been slowly getting more into making a lunch the night before and taking it with me, but buying lunch is SO EASY…

    As far as daily routines it’s a good and bad thing. Good in it builds instinctive actions that allow us to do things easier or better. And bad in that it also makes us complacent.

    The smart among us now what routines are good and what ones are bad. I’m still working on that.

    I work in a different home every few days all over the area so I have no real pattern going to work. But I do tend to use the same path going to stores.

    As far as parking in the same spot when at a retail or grocery store I strive to do just this thing. And I ALWAYS back in so all I have to do is shift to “drive to drive away, no backing out of a parking spot. If there is an active shooter (who invented that term?) I want to not have to think about where my van is, I want to run to it. It helps that I have several Ham radio antennas on it and it stands out in a parking lot.

    The reason I do this is that I don’t have to think about where my van is if there is the need to get out of Dodge in a hurry. Back in 1989-ish I was standing in a parking lot of the local eatery talking to a friend. It was 10:30 PM and we were talking and enjoying a nice Summer night. While we were there a woman ran into the restaurant and within 30 seconds her boyfriend ran up to the doors and unloaded his 9-MM gun.

    We kissed the pavement and got on the far side of our cars away from him. No one was killed or even shot, but from that point on I made sure my auto was ready to go if I were ever to be around people like that.

    PS: The policy in most businesses and stores is to lock the building down when there is someone with a gun going around shooting people. This makes it kinda hard to escape the danger area if they cut the power to the doors (as in a grocery store) and make it hard to open.

    I get around this by having an “:automatic center punch” on me. This punch will blow out any window or door glass with just a push. I’m not going to stay in a building with a crazy person with a gun I’m going to run, and run fast. The store owner is not going to contain me in the same area as the shooter.

    1. Harbor Tools sells these punches for $5.00, I have several of them, they cost little and so far using them for years in my work they hold up well. Harbor Tools is kinda hit-&-miss on quality, but these punches are one of their better tools.

      1. Chuck,

        Not criticism, but for what it’s worth, years ago (late ’60’s-’70’s, CB radio thefts were rampant as were radar detector thefts in the ’90’s. I know your ham radios are dependent on their antennas, do you secure the radios themselves when leaving your car parked for long periods? Or is radio thefts not a problem now-a-days?

        1. I live in a good suburb so I don’t worry about my radios at home.

          I for the most part shop in the same area so no problems at stores. And I work in upper scale homes so I don’t worry about the radios when working.

          That being said I use the alarm on the van.

          As ar as how they are mounted, my quad-band mobile radio is mounted under where the keys go, I also have a 10-meter that right now is sitting in the center tray. I also have a 220 MHz HT slid under the seat with a hand mic on it so you can’t see it.

          I plan on getting an Alinco 220 mobile radio within a month or so and it will go on the other side of the steering wheel (just above my left knee.) I’ve been looking for a 220-only mobile radio and Alinco is the only one I can find. In my dreams I would like to get a 220 all-mode, but unicorns are easier to find…

          I’m also going to put a 6-Meter all-mode in the van when I can find one, but its hard to find one. The Yaesu FT-8900 has 6-meters on it but it’s an FM only radio. And I like SSB simplex. I mostly use the 6-meter FM for a local repeater (when it’s up, as it’s picking up a lot of noise and it gets turned off a lot. I think they are going to put a tone on it to stop the noise) and a simplex net that goes on 2 times a week. The 6-meter net is different then most nets in that it’s much more casual and not so directed. It’s more like a bunch of friends just spending the evening talking. No specific topics covered, it can go off in any direction of talk.

          I have 2 antennas on a quick disconnect mount, Antenna Specialist make this mount ($35.00 or so). You twist it so a letter lines up with a line on the mount and it will pop off leaving just a stub that is about an inch tall. But so far I have not felt the need to pop the antennas off the van.

          I can’t remember the last time I heard some Ham talk about a radio being stolen from their car. I’m sure it has to happen, but I don’t know how common it is.

        2. Dennis we tend to look at the past with a bit of rose colored glasses.

          Your talking about the 60’s & ’70’s CB radio rampant thefts goes to show that today’s problems were always problems.

          And back then radios were more expensive if you adjust for inflation. So it hurt more to have one stolen.

          But in the end any theft is a problem, and post-SHTF it will really hurt as it may be close to impossible to replace the radio. I have radios mounted in my van because I enjoy using them to talk to friends. But in a post-SHTF World I think I would go back to using HT’s in the van because they can easily be removed. And probably use mag-mount antennas that can be pulled when not being used. I have a lot of HT’s laying about and would not be hit as hard if I lost one.

          Today I have drilled holes to mount antennas and the van radios are mostly mobile radios. Probably doing that post-SHTF is just asking for someone to take them.

        3. “good suburb”, “upscale neighborhood”, I have seen many people that thought they were immune to “trouble” until the very second that they weren’t. I would venture to say if anyone here take a trip to the local police station or sherrif office and take a look at the reports, it would be an eye opener. Believe me when I say “it” is everywhere.

        4. Anonymous I know that anyplace can experience break ins. But I do live in a pretty good area and I listen to my local police department on one of my many scanners and hear what is going on.

          I refuse to cower inside my home and also refuse to not play with my radios in my van. I also have a van full of tools that I make a living with so a hit would be very bad.

          I use the alarm that came with the van and also installed an aftermarket alarm.

          Short of spending a few hours a day taking tools in and out of the van I don’t know what else I can do?

        5. Chuck Findlay…..you ask “what else can I do”…maybe you already do this, but…just a few suggestions…a)mark your tools with a code, so if they are stolen you have a chance to positively identify them if police do recover….b)bolt some of your tool boxes to the van floor c)put a remote camera in your van with video to house d)put black out film on van windows (so they cant see if there is anything worth stealing)

      2. Listen to Chuck and get a window punch! That incident with the driver having a seizure a couple weekends ago proved the need. 20 pound rocks thrown at the side glass bounced right off. A neighbor, now local hero, put his fist through the back glass to get the car shut off. He saved a life, but he went to the ER himself for glass chunks in his arm. Submerged under water? Forget it.

        1. If anyone wants to follow this advice, as Chuck stated earlier, the proper name of the device is “automatic center punch”.

  12. I haven’t commented in quite a while, mainly due to the theme in this article, although I’ve been reading the site regularly.

    Two years ago the kids I raised as a single father moved out in order to study abroad. At first it was tough, not to be needed anymore. I started taking regular hikes (10 miles 2-3 times per week) in order to think things through.

    The easy choice would have been to settle down in front of the TV with a bottle of wine and let Netflix entertain me. Tried it for a week, then I was bored.

    Instead I permanently turned off the TV and did something I’ve wanted to do for 20 years – I sat down and started writing the novel I knew I had in me. At times it was hard, but in hindsight it’s the most rewarding thing I’ve ever done. I finished my novel a month ago, 110,000 words, about 500 pages. At the moment I’m proof-reading it and in a month I’ll try to find a publisher.

    Keep your fingers crossed for me!

    1. Red-bearded Viking;
      Tis good to hear from you again; how about not being such a stranger??

      Boy ohhhh Boy do I know the feeling of being useless and alone…. Has been 13 years now.
      I also did the TV and Moonshine thing for a bit, once I got over feeling sorry for myself it was time to kick myself in the ass and live again.
      FYI, TV feed is completely “Off Grid” so to speak HAHAHA

      Would be GREAT to read yar book once published. When you do please let us know.
      FYI, find a publisher that won’t re-write it as most want to do.

      Again, good to hear form you Old-Man :-)

    2. R-bV
      Good luck with the novel👍👍

      Creature of habit???
      Not for my liking. Get up go to work, (same route as it is the fastest to and from) same routine at work Straight home from work, do chores, maintenance, eat supper, go to bed, start all over again.
      Every once in a while, something different will come.up for attention.
      (Leaking spa tub). Yeah!,
      The same ole.same ole puts us in that zoombie state. No outside stimulus to react to no exercise for the brain, if you will.
      On our way home from a couple days of get away, told GF no same route freeway, two lane highway. She was able to get a few pictures of old buildings and my eyes were constantly scanning different sights.
      Then we had to hit the freeway again, because of the time. Set the auto-pilot on the car since it knew the route home and I took a.nap

    3. Welcome back R-bV! Congrats on your novel, is that beautiful when the opportunity and time comes to do something you’ve always hoped for? Those long hikes must have been good for the novel writing too! Best to you!

    4. So very glad to hear from you again! Congratulations on completing your novel.

    5. Glad to hear you’re still here. I’ve been wondering about you. What’s the novel about? I admire folks like Lauren. I wish I had the talent for it. I bought one of her novels through Amazon and put it in the stack to read, I usually have a couple of books going at a time. When I went to read it I think DW had donated it to a thrift store. Sorry Lauren, I will buy your next one, from your hints it sounds good.

      1. Thank you to all the above for your kind words. The novel is a thriller set in the final days of the cold war. Next year it’s been three decades since the fall of the Berlin wall, how time flies …

    6. Excellent bud!
      Would love to read your book,
      Might be better to self publish, but not sure, Lauren might have some input on that if your interested,,,
      😎👍🏻

      1. Depends. With traditional publishing your publisher (if a GOOD publisher–not vanity) will do some (little) marketing, will take care of formatting and cover art, etc. As a self-published author you have to either do all that yourself or hire it done.

        The kicker for me was that with self publishing I don’t need to cater to what the publisher thinks will sell. I don’t need to put in the smut, swearing, unnecessary violence. And I’m not being pushed to produce a trilogy when I wrote a standalone. I’ve seen a number of good authors destroyed by that alone. Write a standalone, the agent presents it to a publisher, publisher says “Great, but it needs to be a trilogy. You have six months to get us the finished 2nd book.” The author may have spent years writing and polishing that first book, so it’s a smash hit. The second book is OK but able to ride on the reputation of the first. Third falls flat. Almost every time. And it’s not the author’s fault, but it’s the author’s reputation that takes the hit and s/he is never able to sell another book because of the failure.

        You hit my soap-box nerve.

  13. Isn’t part of being the grey man, varying your routine?
    Do not be predictable.

    1. Tango
      I’m grey enuff as it is, especially with the fully grown hunting beard.
      I don’t need to be anymore grey than I am at my age.
      Ohh you speak of a different grey…..my bad.

      1. Joe c,

        I remember back when I started getting grey streaks in my hair and beard. I out grew it. Now it’s all white. People comment on it and I tell them yep, Jesus will do that to you, wash you white as snow. I see He’s still scrubbing on you. Most take it as funny, some just walk away.

  14. Try to vary your routine in what you do everyday. Helps stimulate the brain. Brush your teeth with your other hand, put your shoes on left first then right or opposite the normal way. Eat dinner for breakfast and vise versa. Try to brush your hair with opposite hand! ( won’t be pretty!!)

  15. I google earth my area of operation every so often- and always see something new with that birds-eye view.

    “… I took the road less traveled by, and that has made all the difference…”

  16. How often do you park in the same general parking spot location every day at work?
    I do have a few favorite places I like to park my vehicle. Probably should change it up.
    Do you always park in the same area when you go to your grocery store?
    There are literally only 8 spots and they are all next to each other. lol
    When you take a vacation, do you often go to the same places as before?
    A vacation?
    If you go to church, do you sit in the same (or close to the same) place each time?
    I try to pick the safest place and on the end.
    Do you drive the same way to work every day?
    Nope, my work moves. :)
    Do you drive the same way to ______ whenever you go there?
    Yup, Not many roads to pick from.
    If you eat lunch in a work cafeteria do you sit at the same table nearly every time?
    No Cafeteria, I just go home or get stuck at a call.
    Do you mostly eat the same foods all the time?
    I just ate cheesy bread for 4 days straight, does that count?
    Do you always get your news from the same place or places?
    I get news from about 30 shows/sites, but politics is an interest of mine. Worst Hobby EVER!

    Yup I am a creature and have lots of bad habits.

  17. I felt your pain when I was Colorado Springs. Things just kept getting worse and I left. I can’t even imagine how bad Washington State must be in certain areas. Best decision I have ever made was to move to a conservative state.

    Having a decent local government, a hostile climate, a lack of rail ways and interstates has kept many problems away for now. Even with all that we still see traffic from Minneapolis and Seattle. We just hope they move on quickly.

    1. LMAO!!! Keeper, I am quite familiar with Peterson, Schriever, the Moutain, and a couple of other places. Know exactly what you mean. (Even Colfax Ave.) Just think about how much nicer it will be when bread hits $10-$20-or more a loaf and you ain’t there! Hang in there, dude, Can you imagine what Boulder will be like?

      1. Boulder will be terrible. The entire Front Range is like a death trap should anything happen. Between the major war targets, lack of nearby agriculture, high population density, gang warfare, fire danger, and progressive government it would be real bad should anything unexpected happen.

        Happy I got out when I did and went to the Dakotas. I would rather live near Yellowstone than the Front Range.

        1. Keeper,
          Ah, you saw it too. We left 10 years ago after living in the Front Range mountains.
          Now trying to help the kid’s get out. Denver has become a hole. Could never move back. Starting to see some of our friends looking to move out of there after living their whole lives (60+ years) in the area. Sad, was a great place to live for many years.

        2. Minerjim,

          Sadly my parents and some friends are still there. It would be hard to lose my parents, Grandfather and friends in Denver and Colorado Springs. Parents have a long term plan to leave, but my Grandfather won’t so they won’t. In a grid down scenario most older people, regardless of location, won’t last long unless they are in good health. So at least they will go fast and I hope peacefully. :(

          I have prepper “light” friend there, his plan is to just try to gauge the situation early and run. He thinks prepping in place there is a waste of time and I agree. I welcome friends and even unprepared ones, productive ones though.

        3. Keeper,
          My DW’s whole family is still there. As I mentioned, the kids are there too, but at least one will be moving to the mountains in the next year. Might give you some peace of mind to give your family maps with ‘alternate routes’ out of town to your place in the Dakotas, lots of driving options for that destination. We live on the west side of the state (5hours away), so routes here are limited and would shortly become impassible should SHTF. Best we can do is pray and give it up to God.

  18. I had to grin, OHS. You’re right at the cocaine dist. point for the PNW and the majority of users in SCUMlympia. If I were you, I’d take 12 east for about 12 hours then go fishin’. But, you’re neck of the woods ain’t too bad if’n you’re wanting to slow down and act like thar ain’t nothin’ gonna bother ya. LMAO Hang in there, dude!!

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