Stunning Ripple Effects From Coronavirus Business Closures

Never before in history. This has never happened. That is, the extent at which businesses are closed. It is stunning. Astounding. Look around. What do you see?

As I drive from my little town over to the next little town, I see nearly empty streets. Little traffic. Shuttered businesses. It’s happening all across America. All across the planet.

Closed for business. Businesses are dying. As a result, Job loss. Layoffs. Everything is closed except for “essential” business.

The follow-on effects from this are going to be massive. The ripple effects of how one business affects another. Right down the line… It’s stunning when you begin to really think about it.

How many small or medium size businesses are going to survive this?

And “if and when” this Coronavirus is behind us, how many will be gone forever? And how long might it take to get back to relative normalcy? What is this world going to look like?

If this only runs on for a few weeks, sure I can see a way out. However as this goes on for months, or longer, it’s going to be utter devastation.

It’s getting real, folks.

I live in a rural community. Many of the local businesses closed. Or being hit hard by the lack of business – and I know who these people are. They have bills to pay, rent to their landlords, employees, perhaps bank loans for their business related equipment. But production has ceased. As the weeks go by, it will hurt even more…

This is not limited to my rural community. It’s everywhere. More and more state governors are shutting down their states. Self inflicting. It’s astounding the extent at which this is happening.

How is this going to end?


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  1. yeah and this is only gonna get worse before this gets better and the length of time it takes to get this stimulus is gonna harm a lot nobody knows if its gonna be mailed or is it gonna be direct deposit

    1. The interesting thing is that I already see scams out there saying “Click here to claim…” I think those vulnerable to such things are going to get slammed even harder.

    2. Watching our convenience stores and local mom and pops struggling, the Corporate stores, I believe survive but the little guys already in trouble. Health Dept. “ Strongly Advising “ they do not sell any self serve items ( fountain drinks, donuts,hot food, coffee, hot chocolate etc.) All high profit items , problems replacing fuel supply when it takes $ 25,000 to put fuel in the ground … you don’t have and didn’t make from your inside sales. Maybe 1 or 2 cycles but will be out of cash soon . No options but to close and hang on until it passes.

    3. Kevin,
      If the IRS has your bank info on file from a previous tax refund into your bank acct, then it will be direct deposit.

    4. Kevin,

      If you filed taxes in the last year (or two), they will direct deposit the money into whichever account you linked to the IRS.

      1. My question is…. what does the IRS have to do with this. If you worked and PAID taxes you should get one. There is a difference between filing and paying taxes.

    5. The stimulus itself is going to harm a lot of people also. We just added another 10% to the national debt. This money will need to come back in some way either higher tax’s or inflation or more kicking the can down the road to our children and grandchildren.

  2. Unemployment leads to domestic arguments over money
    Forclosures and repossessions
    Divorce and bankruptcies
    Neglect to houses and properties
    Depression and suicides
    Riots and home invasions
    Hopefully everyone can learn to work together for a change and put politics and greed aside and we can come out the other side a stronger nation that is more self reliant
    Hope for the best but prepare for the worst

    1. Major lenders have already posted announcements on their websites–they are willing to work with people who are struggling. In most cases, you can have your mortgage deferred for three months. The months you don’t pay are just added to the end of your mortgage. The same goes for car payments. The banks don’t want to repossess homes or cars–there’s no market to resell them and they would have to pay for upkeep until the economy gets better.

  3. My Momma used to have what she called an old Indian proverb. She would admonish my brother and I, in her best imitation Indian voice

    ……”man who has something to do, he busy….man who has nothing to do, he busy too…..”

    another proverb

    ……..”idle hands are the devil’s workshop”

  4. Never thought I would be a witness to such a Biblical event . . .

    I’m thinking we’re looking at about 2 years before we can all see anything of normal.
    I hope I am wrong though.

  5. I have noticed that the local Whole Foods store, and local organic/natural chain PCC Markets, both of which are somewhat higher end of the price curve, have noticeable less shoppers nowadays. The more moderate priced Fred Meyers and Trader Joe’s stores seem busy as usual. Think some folks around here can’t Live beyond their means any more. Will see how things go when the ‘moderate’ priced stores become ‘expensive’. I am keeping ‘grey’ and discrete.

  6. I believe the extent of the effects will be determined by how long this continues. I just finished reading this article about Italy and how they are having trouble with social unrest after just 4 weeks in their southern region which is a much poorer area. Gangs are communicating on social media about attacking grocery stores, etc. Can you imagine NYC or Chicago if this continues for 4 weeks, 6 weeks, or even 8 weeks? They are cooped up in those big cities in tiny apartments going stir crazy and many of their citizens below poverty. I am so happy I live in eastern NC, although given long enough no place will be safe.

    1. Jaguar,

      I think you need to look on the bright side and give this situation a positive spin. I think we all owe a dept of gratitude to Obama. He, more than anyone else, help middle class America see the need to be prepped and armed! The inner city gimmie-dats will get board and head to suburbs and rural areas looking for supplies. Middle class America is now armed and ready–all thanks to Obama. Heck, before Obama was elected I didn’t even know what it meant to skip bullets.

  7. Government jobs remain… Some in the govt are able to work at home, others are reporting to work. Businesses that are serving the government will be less affected by layoffs and business closures.

    Amazon is KING. IF Bezos gets enough robotics, who needs people?

    Unemployment is going to be devastating and if the deaths from coronavirus don’t sober us all up, the ravages of unemployment will.

    Loss of a job means loss of income and loss of health insurance. Losing your health insurance during a pandemic will financially ruin an unemployed person, or a family dependent upon that person if someone gets sick and needs medical care. A two-income family, with both losing their jobs, is even worse…add in a child or two…. Will unemployment cover health insurance?

    President Trump has already legislated this year’s Guest Visas. These visas are used in agriculture — hiring temporary workers for temporary jobs planting and harvesting crops. Those non-citizens who have worked in the US prior to 2020 may return to work in the US this year. But will they? Will the US see a 100% participation rate, or will many of our seasonal workers stay closer to home? Who will pick crops for America’s farms? Would unemployed Americans step in and pick crops?

    If America’s truckers go on strike, who will transport food across our Nation? The National Guard? IF the NG is hauling freight, then who is left on guard?

    Then there are the little things that affect people when businesses fold up or there is no job. There sure will be lots of inconveniences for some people. Women will have to figure out how they’ll keep their acrylic nails manicured. Men and women will either learn to cut their own hair, or they’ll pester neighborhood stylists into starting home-based businesses — using ‘social distancing’, of course. Those who can’t cook will probably have to figure out how to make Minute Rice and Ramen Noodles. Those who don’t want to cook may have to figure out how to budget carry-out/drive-thru meals on an unemployment check. Folks are going to have to groom their own dogs (geez, I am glad that we decided to DIY for our Doodles now!). No more elective surgery for the vain: face lifts, breast augmentations are so passe now. No more Botox injections — well, I think we’re about to see a very wrinkled and aged society before too long…. And all those blondes are going to start showing their dark roots. ( I hope their Xanax script has a 2-year refill.) Maybe all of these inconveniences can light a spark for an entrepreneur somewhere, like Lucy in the Peanuts comic strip: “Psychiatric Help 5-cents.”

    Then again, maybe those little inconveniences will push a person to crime. Or drugs. Or booze. Or divorce.

    There sure are going to be some mixed emotions flying around…But for the folks who are well grounded, there are the Life Lessons. Some folks might come to the conclusion that those 2nd-income jobs really aren’t worth the aggravation. Some might realize that their families are more important than a career path. Some might decide it’s time to homestead and get out of the city. Others might enjoy a new-found hobby so much that they opt for a home-based hobby-business. How many will walk away from a mortgage they can’t meet (shades of 2009… underwater mortgages)? How many will realize that being prepared for the unknown is a smart lifestyle? Hey, maybe get a Preparedness website going… :-)

    1. “If America’s truckers go on strike, who will transport food across our Nation? The National Guard? IF the NG is hauling freight, then who is left on guard?”

      In reply to the above quote. If National Guard and Army Reserve do end up hauling food and cargo it will be their 88M people (formerly 64C) Motor Transport Personnel- Army Truckers. As to “who will be left on Guard?” Their MP’s supplemented / augmented by Infantry 11B’s, etc.

      Will it be enough? Time will tell, adjustments will be made.
      BTW. I’m a Ret. Army 88M and Former Commercial/ OTR Driver

      1. I wonder if Trump has the legal authority to federalize the truckers and order them back to work. I bet you he does.

  8. Yes, it will definitely have a domino effect. If the suppliers cannot get or manufacture their supplies, all manufacturing will shut down. Then those businesses who sell what is manufactured will have to close due to no product. Then those who buy those products will have none.

    I unfortunately had to leave the homestead for a doctor appointment for an injury. I was shocked to see how much traffic and business was still open in town. It was not a ghost town like I thought it would be. I took proper precautions at the doctor’s office and they did too, so I was fairly comfortable. But I have to say in the town of about 500,000, on the outskirts where I was, the normalcy bias is in full effect.

  9. It may be time to purchase somethings that you may not think of as “preps”. What I mean is when small businesses go out of business there is not a need for as many truckers, fewer trucks, fewer service personnel needed. Fewer service personnel less need for service sites, real estate goes vacant…. you see where I am going.

    In the Great Depression the average unemployment rate was something like 33% at least in the worst years. What will it be in the Greater Depression? My mother said if you had a car in the Great Depression you were lucky, not that a car is what is important but the idea that common things were no longer as readily available. Need a new chain saw? Chains and bars? Tires? Boot? Underwear? :)

    What else might you usually put off, waiting for it to go on sale or “next payday”? While quarantined take a good look at your situation and plan those purchases if it isn’t too late already.

    1. This seems like a wise thing to do. DH and I are already compiling lists of items we will need to replenish when we get a chance. Per your suggestion, we should think a bit into the future and not only make purchases, but make connections with people with skills we may need.

    2. Deep South,

      I totally agree with you. My dh and I have enough clothing and footwear to last the rest of our lives. I purchased extra when the things we normally wear were at rock bottom prices. I like to buy Eddie Bauer clothing because it lasts for years. But I wait until the after Christmas clearance sales. I also like the Columbia brand. They have seasonal clearance sales.

  10. We are only seeing the beginning of a downward spiral and printing trillions of dollars of new debt will only hasten it. The globalist and deep state have seized this event and are going to use it to destroy the economy, private small businesses and worst of all the Constitution.

    We are witnessing the SHTF whether most people realize it or not.

  11. we thought we had planned for this. plenty of food and supplies. we’ve been prepped for years. then the oven didn’t work. not a huge issue because we have alternate sources to cook on. called the appliance store. due to the state being shut down the parts dept was closed. store closed unless you needed emergency replacement appliance. i managed to track the needed igniter elsewhere. so not a big deal. but what other bits and pieces of our lives and equipment are we not seeing? for an example, for my chain saws I’ve got plenty of gas, bar oil, and chains. what bitty part will break on me and lead time will be 6 months and have to ship from China?

    just suggesting another look at our preparedness.

    1. dv,

      I think the U.S. economy will come out stronger in the long run. Many of the items manufactured in China will in the future be printed on a 3-D printer. In the meantime, I think we will go back to WWII days when machinists made parts to repair machines. Pre-WWII pilots not only knew how to fly, they knew how to make parts and repair their own planes. I find that interesting.

  12. BIL & sister’s boat repair shop is swamped!
    They have 3 LEO’s boats waiting in line, along with the state boats to be worked on for fishing season. Including long time customers who pre-booked so that they could get ahead of everyone else. It appears the business is booked into May, maybe longer.

    1. AC:
      That is some great news in a sea of misery right now. I hope they keep the customers far away. And I hope step 1 of every repair service is bow-to-stern with a few liters of Lysol. A mandatory up-sell.

  13. We are only in the beginning stages of a real problem.

    We talk and talk about TSHTF here on MSB. And a huge amount of us here understands over the past XYZ years what “May happen” well here we are my friends.

    Welcome to the SHTF.
    Say what you will, there is more to work here than what meets the eye.

    Time to turn gray and hunker down.

    This is not over in 2 weeks or 2 months.

    The ripple effect as Ken mentioned is cascading all around the country and the world.

    What are YOU going to do when we are in the same position as many MANY of the third world countries?????

    1. NRP

      “What are YOU going to do when we are in the same position as many MANY of the third world countries?????”

      Some will learn to use their left hand, some will kill themselves, some will starve and become so ill they will perish, many will become criminals and die in gang fights, … many choices.

      But a few will be able to skirt the troubles and carry on with their lives. Work with what we have on hand and in our heads.

    2. NRP, you mention the ripple effect. Something keeps nagging me about all of this panic over this virus. Yes, it is severe, but a global shutdown? Unless….unless… are we possibly looking at a global ‘reset?” Just about every developed country is million, billions, or trillions of dollars in debt. I think there will be a whole new world when, or if, we get out of this mess. What will it be like in two years? Fixed? Or worse? Who knows. As for me and mine we are, and have been, preparing to live like the 1800’s if need be. I’m not interested in spending $$$ to continue to live like we are now. I think simple living is the best direction for us to go. I’m inspired by the Amish communities. Not ready for a horse and buggy yet, nor giving up my electric power, but we must simplify. I intend to do BUY LOCAL more, buy USED GOODS more, and repurpose and reuse more of what we have. This massive, wasteful, consuming as a culture has got to stop. And I hope and pray that people who’s business have failed come back stronger in a way that people need. New businesses. I’ll support them.

      1. I agree DJ5280. As things break, I no longer replace them unless they are critical. My bread machine died a couple of months ago, I did not replace it. My computer died, did not replace it. My dishwasher broke, didn’t repair it. The stuff made today is crap. The companies make these things not to last but to break and need replacing. We have become a disposable society. Even some cars barely last until that last car payment. The less I have, the freer I feel. I am not a debt slave. That is where they want us, always to be in debt.

        1. Peanut

          Just an observation that agrees with your idea of a disposable society. In the 1980s much electronic equipment was manufactured with discrete components and provided with a repair manual so it could be fixed with minimum equipment. Now everything is surface mount components so a repair is a factory job if it can be repaired at all. Most often it is simply thrown way and a new board installed. We have indeed been a disposable society. The question is will we remain one.

        2. I’m with you, Peanut. Don’t forget, these new things – listen to us, have cameras to watch us, etc. I am really, REALLY, going to go backwards. Less tech, more simple living. I want to be so grey that we are almost invisible.

        3. Yeah, I took the car in to the Ford place for an oil change. They really do look over things while they have the car. Takes them over an hour. What kind of irked me was that the guy said (also on the paperwork) of a ‘possible’ oil leak on the front axle seal. I asked what they meant ‘possible’. Answer was well maybe it’s something else and that I should bring it in for diagnostics and the cost would be $100 or so. Really? I have to wonder since the car market has tanked if they are not trying to make it up in extra costs. Taking it to a shop that has done work on it before and they will look at it for free.

          1. Cars and trucks leak oil from every damm thing under the sun from new to old, top to bottom, side to side. Keep an eye on the oil levels – top up when necessary.

            Axle boots and seals need to be inspected, but that is it – you are always better off replacing the axle assembly with a new one once a boot lets go on an axle – labor to do a boot replacement actually costs more.

            And, depending on how long the boot has been cracked or torn, you may be doing the replacement soon due to water and dirt getting into the sealed area, and trashing the bearing surfaces anyway.

            Fixing oil leaks is only good for the shop that finds the leak. Think of most oil leaks as being the automatic rust proofing system option you got for free with the car.

        4. Peanut,

          I think we are going to see a reset. We have become a disposable society because it has been (in the past) cheaper to buy new Chinese made products than to hire an American to fix what’s broken. If Trump gets a second term, I think we are going to see a lot of manufacturing return to the U.S. (and Mexico), starting with chemicals and agents used in fertilizers and medications.

  14. I got to spend an hour or so with a couple of big, serious looking police officers today. Someone heisted a truck on an LA-Chicago run, took six rather large generators. But get this,,, we packed the good stuff at the front of the trailer, and packed out the rear with low-value crapola. We do this to deter opportunistic grabs off the back. And for weight/balance over the axle.

    53 foot dry van with barn doors, so they had to pull off the dock to close up and place the seal. It was raining hard on departure day so we think the driver faked clicking the seal all the way closed. Somewhere between here and the high desert that had a dock-level building and a forklift and a crew standing by. They had to offload the back end to get to the good stuff, steal it, then throw the rear echelon stuff back on board.

    The trailer arrived at Chicago with an intact seal, missing 6 bigguns, and the rest of the load was tossed around and damaged. This was a class operation.

    Ya know, I think I’m already burned out with all of the ‘desperate people do desperate things’ crap. These are opportunistic, scumbag, criminals, plain and simple. Short trial, followed by a summary execution sounds about right. These are emergency times after all. Desperate times justifies violent enforcement of the peace, as far as I’m concerned. Make a public example of these bipedal turds. Anyone thinking of emergency power preps, your costs just went up; again.

  15. This is not SHTF. This is a skid mark in the middle of everyone’s self-absorbed lives. We will recover and this episode is life balancing itself. We will lose enough people, time and money to make some realize they should focus on the important things such as family and friends.

    Items to watch for:
    Major drop in homeless population
    Increase in those requiring govt assistance
    Decreased work force as enough people will chose to stay home
    More people being better prepared. The economy will surge as there will be a spending spree to jump start the economy. Everyone will over react and try to buy their way into preparedness.

    1. I’m agreeing with your take on this except for the outcome. We have a very strange demographics in this nation today with people who will see this as an opportunity for more repressive government. Today, the left is champion communist China’s handling of this virus even though they are the ones who caused it. Watch China Uncensored on YouTube for complete information on this subject. People need to abolish property taxes, “so no matter what happens” they won’t lose their homes and businesses. Instead we are seeing huge bailouts and so called free money for people and huge corporations alike. This mind set will result with an even larger, more powerful government and very little freedom for the individual. Mark my word, this will not end well for freedom loving citizens. This will be the real apocalypse.

  16. If a business has so little float they can’t make rent for a few months they weren’t going to survive a recession anyway.

    I’m still more worried about the recession than the beerflu.

    Gasoline is so cheap it is selling for less than it costs to refine it. Think about that for a minute.

  17. Ken,
    This one is going to hurt, tons of business closed, losing money, etc, tons of people out of work.
    I just thank the lord for my situation.
    I honestly have no clue how people will deal with the fallout. I hope it brings our small island community together, we have to, but its going to be rough no matter what.

  18. It’s not just the virus and direct consequences of decision making that we are facing. Compounding this are ancillary actions, like closing visa processing. Many universities and colleges depend on full-fare paying foreign students to stay out of the red. By now tens of thousands of foreign students should have received their paperwork and started applying for their visas. The temporary ag workers on H2A visas mentioned by Modern Throwback are critical to food production here. Dept of State and USDA working on this. Travel and tourism have collapsed. Monuments, museums, amusement parks all closed. In addition to schools closing, 4-H and FFA are shut down. Symphonies, orchestras, Broadway, community theatre, sporting events all stopped. Early county and state fairs will be cancelled. Summer gatherings may disappear. June weddings on line. We will become more isolated and technologically dependent for connection and community.

    Independent of the virus, we are coming into food shortages caused by weather last year as well as delayed planting due to this year’s lingering storms. Weather and virus are colliding when it comes to food production. Shortages may become more apparent to the masses and increase panic buying, and panic in general.

    All this anxiety will certainly increase political violence and bad behavior as we get closer to Election Day. Democrats are remarkably silent these days on who will be their candidate. Expect them to change the rules at least once more before their convention. After the Iowa caucus fiasco one wonders what their plans are for the remainder of their primaries and Milwaukee if we are still socially distancing by summer.

    As we dip into our preps, we need to plan to replenish and expand as we deem prudent and as the ability exists to do so. We still have enemies out there; NoKo in particular has been saber rattling since before last Christmas.

    Cheery subject, thanks Ken.

  19. “Government help to business is just as disastrous as government persecution… The only way a government can be of service to national prosperity is by keeping its hands off.”

    – Ayn Rand

    Welcome to Atlas Shrugged

  20. I have mentioned before that the DW and I volunteer to distribute food to the poor /needy at our church. We usually get 100-150+ families who need help. Since the shut down order in our county, we can’t perform our Christian duties anymore. I’m wondering what those poor folks are doing to eat? Maybe some had a full pantry, but many of them were old and sickly.

    Saw an article yesterday that “many high end” stores in are boarding up out of fear of looting, so we here are not the only ones who see what is coming soon.

    Took a “Sunday” drive through town and noticed that all of the motel parking lots were filled with out of state cars. Rats leaving a sinking ship?

    1. Seminole Wind,

      You are in Alachua County, right? I suppose it doesn’t matter since the whole state of Florida is under a stay at home order. But the order still allows church groups (less than 10 people) to deliver food to the needy.

      The out of town plates: the governor has issued an order requiring out of state folks from hard-hit areas to self-quarantine for 14 days–or risk 60 days in jail. I don’t think the governor has the authority to shut down the state line. I imagine all the out-of-state tags are people complying with the quarantine order.

      I had to go to Walmart today (the one out by the sheriff’s station) to pick my dh’s px medications. (I was wearing a mask.) There were dozens of people wearing masks. Walmart was out of a lot–no toilet paper or paper towels. They did have tissues. The meat isle was well picked through, as were the canned goods. The OTC meds looked to be in reasonable shape.

      1. Bam;
        Actually the Governors do have the authority to shut the borders.
        Is deep in the laws they don’t let the public know they have, but I guarantee it’s there.
        Ever read the Federal Patriot Act?
        Take a gander some day, make sure you have a roll of TP with ya, it will scare the crapo out of you the powers the .gov actually have..

  21. The pandemic seems to be just the catalyst for the worse to come, especially if it tappers off during the summer and ramps back up in the fall. Think summer time could be the true last shot at getting all level 2+ preps in order and to further develop skills you’ve been putting off. Between the unemployment, fear of a potential re-ignition of outbreak, and the hot political division associated with the upcoming election things could ramp up even further. Just know I thank God everyday that my wife and I still have our jobs up to this point, I continue to pray for all of those who have not been so lucky up to this point.

    1. Look at the history of the Spanish Flu. Different times and conditions but the fall was the deadly wave.

      1. Or look at the Bubonic Plague. It was rampant in the summers but died out in the winters as the fleas carrying the plague wear much less active in the wintertime. The plague lasted for many years making a resurgence in the warmer months.

        1. INPrepper/rb308/INPrepper….

          I have read, that this virus is different…Apparently this one likes cold, not so much hot weather/humid weather. Apparently, they are not expecting this one to wind down in cold/fall/winter/but ramp up.

          1. I was drawing a contrast. One of the main carriers of the plague besides people were fleas which were less active during the winter months and as a result fewer infections. But during the warmer months would flare back which was the opposite of SARS or the yearly flu. Then again, I could be completely full of poop based on the info I got from the ever truthful internet (sarcasm intended) as I have studied engineering not virology.

  22. We knew our economy was on the edge before the oil glut and COVID treats hit. The ripple effects are well known to each of us and will impact every one of us in some form. It might be one of us laid off permanently or one of our family members, the hurt impacts the entire family – financially and emotionally. Someone already clearly outlined the trajectory of this trend.

    While talking heads mention refinancing while rates are super low, you cannot refinance when you are not employed. Most people are not prepared to withstand even a couple weeks of no groceries although the early stages of panic buying got more people thinking about what they want rather than what they may need. The desperation will be horrendous and we will see it plus out 24/7. For our own health, limit that news feed and think constructive.

    Many of our other lifestyle friends have been downsizing their growing (animal and plant) operations to something they can manage for their trusted friends and family – not for others general consumption. Their product has not been fully appreciated and not worth the extra effort or cost financially or emotionally. And, these people are concerned about having supplies to required to manage the larger animal and plant operation. It is easier to stretch out supplies for a smaller base of need. I believe you will only see product sold or traded from these type of thinkers once they know it will be “clear” for them to let go of some product without hurting their own circle.

    This is our country’s death spiral and we don’t know what will come out of the ashes. Now is the time to carefully review your situation and determine what is truly needed to reinforce your ability to self sustain for a very long period of time, perhaps years. As seed sales are up over 250%, it appears many people have a good idea the direction our country is headed.

    Lumber and fencing (fencing nails and repair items) may be a good purchase as well. Or perhaps, solar fencing units which we have used for years but you must replace the batteries every three or so years in these. Smaller meat animals eat less and many have the Ability to reproduce in shorter time frames. Perhaps animals that don’t require a lot of fuss to stay healthy. Do the same as Lauren is doing with plants – acclimate the animals to the actual environment where you live. Provide them with shelter but don’t enclose them entirely. We have done this with all our animals the past several years and the animals have done fine with one exception. Unfortunately that one was weak at the get go but I still felt horrible when I lost her.

    Get your replacement chargers (multiples) for your battery operated tools because if one goes bad, you want to continue charging while you wait 4 months for that part (burnt transistor or capacitor…I forget) to come in.

    Get your ducks in a row now folks because it will get much worse before anything gets better. The ripples have started and they are swamping the raft that was barely afloat.

    Gotta run…lots to do while staying away from people. Cause the ones that don’t look sick can still infect you. Stay safe and pray for guidance.

  23. I am fortunate enough to have moved, over 50 years ago when I returned from ‘Nam’, from cold New England where I was raised, to a warmer climate in South Florida.
    The unique area here, has developed over the years, to one of the wealthiest areas in the country. A skilled boat carpenter friend of mine told me years ago that there are 3 things that the rich will always spend their money on, Always.
    Their boats, their golf, and their swimming pools.
    So when my oldest son graduated from High School, a C average student, looked for a business to start, I gave him that advice. So, he started a swimming pool maintenance business, with 1 used Toyota pick-up and 1 customer. That was 25 years ago.
    He now has 32 trucks on the road. Now, when businesses all around are closing, he is busier than ever.
    Go figure.

    1. That was some great advice for him. Advantage your local situation. Good for him! Hey, what better way to self-isolate by floating in one’s swimming pool on a sunny day – likely with a cocktail in one hand ;)

  24. Ripple Effects from this virus event are huge in Canada right now. The shut downs started mid March and have been escalated this past week. First it was limiting how many people in a business and social distance. Now it is all non essential businesses (determined by the Provincial Government) closed. The businesses that are open don’t even want your cash; they want electronic payments only (they don’t have to touch anything and expose themselves to the virus). I have purchased gift cards for a few places that are open because I don’t like using my bank card for everything. This might be the event that moves us into a cashless society!
    Canada had just experienced a closure of our Railways to east-west traffic due to Indigenous protests over land claims and pipelines right before COVID. And we wonder why supplies are limited?
    Toilet paper shelves have been emptied for weeks and meat departments were cleaned out by a couple of people purchasing overflowing shopping carts of meat. Seniors who take a Seniors Home shuttle bus once a week to the grocery store were faced with no canned goods, meat or toilet paper available for purchase. Crazy times!
    Grocery stores first put a limit on how many ‘on sale’ items you could purchase and now you can only purchase a maximum of two of any items in the store. I last went shopping two weeks ago and bought two of everything on my list (that I could find) and had comments given to me that ranged from, ‘you bought the last one’ to ‘why do you need two?’ And the look the check out lady gave me as she commented that I bought two of everything was one of pure hatred!
    The business where I work has been deemed an essential service so I still have a job to go. We have been trying to get a Policy sorted out to deal with COVID-19 for a week now but too many managers dragged their feet about it. “Just follow what the government says to do” is what I was told. When I questioned what we have in place to show our clients that we are taking steps to protect our employees and worksites, I was met with blank stares! Workers are frightened and many are asking how to get Employment Assistance from the Government. The one-time payment for workers who are affected by a business closure or requirement to self-isolate is not much. It is better than nothing. But with so many applying for it and all the business subsidies currently promised … I shudder to think of what our national debt will be in 6-12 months time.
    We are in unprecedented times and they are changing every day! Be flexible, think outside the box and stay alert!

    1. CJ in CDA,
      Thanks for your updates from the North. Your last 2 sentences pretty much says it all.

      We are in unprecedented times and they are changing every day ! Be flexible,think outside the box and stay alert !

      The dominos are beginning to topple .

  25. I enjoyed reading this article Ken. Compared to these really important issues, there are also simple ones. I’m a retired hairdresser. I’ve already had calls and emails from past clients who can’t go to the salon because of closure, asking me if I could please give them a haircut? Ummm no. Do I want them at my house. No. Do I want to go to their home and touch them? No. I already know it will get worse, much much worse. I live in WA state where the virus is rampant and we are in lockdown. I guess we need stylish hair. I retired, grew mine out and wear a ponytail.

    1. Miss I Made IT Myself,

      Wife is handling the present unpleasantness well. Everything except not going to her weekly hair appointment.

    2. Miss I Made it Myself,

      My husband and I have already had to give each other hair cuts. We couldn’t stand it any longer. When this virus is over I think you are going to see really good tips for getting people looking “professional”.

  26. Just heard from a NY state worker that they are not being paid….and this would be for work already performed a few weeks back. They were told to see if their banks would loan them money until they were paid. Then Cuomo got on National TV and lied about not paying the essential people that were working. Our state was deeply in the red before these threats hit…it is 100 times worse now.

    1. DaMedlinNY,

      New York hasn’t passed a budget yet. Half of state employees will not get paid until they can agree on a budget. These folks should have seen this coming and prepped for it–sorry.

  27. DAMedinNY
    This will sound snarky, not directed at you.

    Your gov is like that of ‘gruesome new some’, they get paid while those who worked received a so sorry Charlie. Hard to eat & live with promises.

    1. Antique Collector,

      Good to see you here. New York is using people’s paychecks as bargaining tools to force through a bloated state budget. It sucks to be a New Yorker without a paycheck. But (a) this is New York and (b) they should have seen it coming.

      My dh tells me I have no empathy for others. I tell him that their failure to prepare for obvious situations does not constitute an obligation on my part to help. I may choose to help. But I am not obligated to help.

  28. Tip for the day: The ability to make fire is one of the most important skill sets to know on the homestead or in the bush. Eventually the Bics and matches run out. Metal match (ferro rod) with a striker tab and waxed jute twine is a failsafe fire starter. Reverse wrap jute into cordage strand and dip into candle wax (from a candle warmer) and let cool. Fluff the end of the cordage with your metal match striker and strike a spark into the fluff. Will light into flame (like gasoline) in all conditions, wet, dry, windy, etc.. A small Ferro rod will start thousands of fires and when the waxed jute runs out, just use inner bark from tulip poplar tree, etc., to make more cordage and soak in lard or animal fat. I carry a 3″ Ferro rod, along with a narrow pill holder tube containing waxed jute, on my key ring for emergency situations along with a larger version in my pack. I have used this method in the worst conditions imaginable and it has never failed me. Primitive fire making skills are fine to know but at best unreliable when needed. Note: when using the Ferro rod, I only strike the end 1/4″ inch. Striking the full length is unnecessary (unless tinder is marginal) as it wears out the rod too soon. Hope this helps someone.

    1. DinoPete;
      Good post, I would add there are a LOT of basic skills that are lost.
      Might be a good time to learn a few of those skills while cooped up in the Apartment in NYC. Ahhhhh not the fire starting skill one inside boys and girls….

    2. Ken, All good articles and info.. Since I tend to be “old school – low drag” kind of person, I try to apply kiss to my style (since I am stupid). I see the experts carrying 3 lb fire kits with all sorts of ways to start fires. Some say you should have 3 different ways with you at all times in the bush. I simply carry multiples of the one that always works quickly. One on my key ring – one on belt – one in pack – one up my……… well you get the idea. I guess I was just trying to present the concept that simple is good in these days coming. Thanks for the good articles.

  29. My company helps create and support VR/collaborative tools for a couple clients which happen to be large manufacturers. Those clients are doing booming business and sent a lot of their engineers and designers working on future projects to work from home. That means my company while small is actually busier than we have been in a while. I think the biggest hit to these manufacturers though Will be in putting long term growth plans on hold to focus on the current crises. They will do well for this quarter, but major projects are being slowed if not stopped. It does make me ponder on whether i will have the same job 6 months from now.

  30. This could be a ripple effect–
    Criminals let out of prison/jail.
    No job, place to live, money, transportation.
    Cops not responding to crime without injury.
    What are the illegals who loose jobs, and do not get bailout money, gonna do?

    1. Already starting…don’t recall the exact number but believe it was 1,400 NY officers that were diagnosed with COVID today? Tell me the criminals out there aren’t watching all of this and seeing opportunity

  31. Despite being closer to a “town”, I have to say I am very glad we completed out move! As I work from home (by order) I realize I would have had great difficulty doing this from the previous location!
    Locals here just waking up to the true dangers of this pandemic….so watching carefully.

  32. Hey, everybody, get this one !
    My grand daughter is a Sales Rep for several manufacturers who sell to Home Depot.
    One of those manufactured a certain type of Sprayer that sprayed a mist only.
    It didn’t go over, and she told me she couldn’t even give them away. There was absolutely no demand for them.
    NOW – Hospitals and clinics are screaming for them, to fast spray and decontaminate areas
    that take much longer and are less efficient doing it by hand.
    That manufacturer is now going 24 hrs./day, trying to keep up with the demand.
    Reminds me of that old saying, “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure”.

  33. An Amish guy got pulled over today one town over from us and ticketed by A Code Enforcement Officer for our county. Ticketed for taking tin to work on a roof project when we are in stay at home mode AND ticketed for not having a work permit. How would the guy know if he wasn’t at the job whether the guy had a work permit? This Code guy has always been a pain and now he is on steroids. What a piece of work.

    1. DAMedinNY
      Does this ‘Enforcement Officer’ have a well where he resides??
      Ohhh, we dowsers can be a prickly as a pear cactus when need be…😆😎


    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’ll see what they say and know more next week. Hope that check that we are all expecting isn’t going for a repair.

  35. “‘It’s catastrophic.’ Coronavirus forces Florida farmers to scrap food they can’t sell”

    A tractor with a 35-foot blade mowed down one million pounds of green beans ready to be picked at R.C. Hatton’s Pahokee fields.

    Those crops should have been going to South Florida’s restaurants, cruise ships, school cafeterias, airlines and even theme parks.

    Instead, they are going into the ground.

    “And I’ve got another one million I can’t harvest that’s going down in the next three days,” R.C. Hatton’s president Paul Allen said.

    The total shutdown of the hospitality industry, to stem the spread of the coronavirus, means farmers who grew crops intended for everyone from small, independent restaurants to busy hotels are stuck with millions of pounds of produce that will soon be left to die on the vine.

    And even food banks, soup kitchens and rescue missions, which have seen a surge of unemployed workers making hours-long lines for boxes of donated fresh fruits and vegetables, are saturated with farm donations.

    “It’s catastrophic,” said Tony DiMare, vice president of the third-generation-owned DiMare tomato company. “It’s a dire situation, and there’s no relief in sight.”

    Like many farms, DiMare’s business is split between growing produce for retail outlets like grocery stores and direct to the food-service industry.

    When restaurants were ordered shut overnight, about half of his 1,300 acres of tomatoes, mostly in Homestead, had no buyers.

    “You’re dealing with a perishable product,” DiMare said. “The clock is ticking.”

    Unlike flour or sugar, fruits and vegetables must be harvested, boxed, shipped and sold quickly — or not at all.

    With no one to buy the product, R.C. Hatton farms has made the difficult decision to plow under many of its fields.

    Harvesting that fruit can cost more than twice as much as simply razing it. Workers who usually make between $15-$17 an hour, paid by the amount they pick, instead earn minimum wage doing field work.

    So one million pounds of green beans and four million pounds of cabbage at R.C. Hatton will be churned into mulch in the next few days.

  36. DiMare estimates that by the end of the growing season, about 10 million pounds of his tomatoes will go unpicked.

    “It’s devastating for agriculture in Florida,” Allen said. “There’s zero demand, and it’s being left in the fields.”

    One option is for the federal government to invoke the power to purchase farm product for use in assistance programs. The stimulus bill Congress passed Friday had $9.5 billion in dedicated disaster relief for farmers.

    Some farms, like Pero Family Farms, have been able to reroute its specialty produce, like sweet mini peppers and organic salads, to the grocery stores who are demanding more than usual because many people are now cooking at home.

    And some restaurants have even turned to selling this produce online, with local pick up and delivery. One, Threefold Cafe in Coral Gables, turned their seven-restaurant infrastructure into packaging grocery goods from farms and purveyors and selling it directly to the public.

    “We have to find ways to get creative,” said Pero’s chief sales officer, Nick Bergstrom.

    Farms are having trouble even giving their fruits and vegetables away.

    As millions of pounds of produce threatened to go bad, growers flooded non-profit organizations. DiMare said when Walt Disney World shut its doors, the park filled the food pantries in the Orlando area.

    In South Florida, even the biggest non-profits are having trouble moving the mountains of quickly ripening produce into the hands of hungry people who need it.

    “The volume is at a level we’ve never seen before,” said Stephen Shelley, president and CEO of Farm Share, which partners with more than 2,000 food pantries, churches, schools and other nonprofits throughout Florida to distribute food every day.

    Farm Share is running at maximum capacity, Shelley said, despite having 25 refrigerated trucks, six warehouses of between 10,000-35,000 square feet and 40-50 drop sites from Jacksonville to Florida City. They usually help more than seven million pounds of food reach the hungry and now are faced with moving a lot more.

    “It is overwhelming the system,” he said.

    But no one is turning away donations. DiMare donated 400,000 pounds of tomatoes last week alone and plans to donate another million pounds this week. R.C. Hatton similarly has opened up its farm to you-pick and is sending countless boxes of green beans and cabbage to food rescue charities, as much as they can take.

    “We absolutely can handle it,” said Sari Vatske, executive vice president of Feeding South Florida. “We can’t get it in and out fast enough.”

    The organization, which is part of the Feeding America network, is using its own fleet of trucks and more than 220 local partners to give away more than 2.5 million meals a week from Palm Beach to Monroe counties.

    Meanwhile, more people than ever are relying on the donated fresh produce as thousands were laid off from the food industry in the last weeks.

    Last Wednesday, a line of cars eight miles long queued up at a Farm Share site in Liberty City, where volunteers are putting groceries directly into trunks to avoid unnecessary contact. Distributions are planned throughout the week and a calendar is available online.

    Feeding South Florida is seeing six times as many people coming for donations at its many locations, while its volunteer staff is just a quarter of its usual size. Many are following stay-at-home orders and are afraid of contracting the coronavirus, despite a no-contact system.

    “The math is not on our side,” Vatske said.

    Meanwhile, the sun sets on crops that grow another day closer to going from food to fodder.

    “We have got to get this virus contained,” DiMare said, “or we are not going to get back to close to being normal.”

  37. I think a good portion of the public is expecting unrest.

    The reason I say this is the gun store down the street from me.

    For the last 2.5 weeks there has been a line of people 20 to 50 deep all day long, every day. People are lined up before the door is opened and still a line when they close up for the day.

    It,s even worst then when Obama took office.

    That,s a lot of Guns and ammo being sold.

    People are really worried.

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