Recent Comments on MSB Latest 100 Comments on Modern Survival Blog M’Lynn 08/13/2020 at 7:53 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationSoul.... 😉 M’Lynn 08/13/2020 at 7:52 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversationk-bay - Or to easily identify the idiots. Because who in their right mind will plant something unknown from China? Greg 08/13/2020 at 7:31 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItI would propose that term limits be imposed by a Constitutional Amendment. That way, there would be no question as to their Constitutionality. But I would go further. The term limits would be set at ten years in a persons lifetime, at the local, state, and federal levels combined. And there would be no grandfathering in of persons currently holding office. If they have over ten years of service when the Amendment takes effect, they would be out of office on that day. This effort should be done through a referendum in each state. I said this to a long term congressional aid I knew when I worked in the DC area. They commented that then we would not have anyone with experience in office. I said "Good". And I support the idea of a sunset provision on each and every law, although I would limit it to ten years. If nothing else, it would keep the vermin busy renewing the laws so that they would not have time to create newer more confusing laws. SoulSurvivor 08/13/2020 at 7:27 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationA friend of mine just asked me why is the word abbreviation so damn long? My answer to him was - So you appreciate to abbreviate????? k-bay 08/13/2020 at 7:19 PM>> OPSEC And Your Circle Of Friends, Family, AcquaintancesJabba I agree it is a difficult choice, yet I seem to think you are leaning to the MAG side of the coin. I too would lean in that same direction. In example, three of you, is better that two of them. Besides, catching a small opfor in a cross-fire, is stacking the deck in your favor. k-bay 08/13/2020 at 7:09 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationAll Question regarding "mysterious seeds" from China. Man in Arkansas planted some, up pops a daikon, a type of radish widely consumed in Asia. Got me thinking that wouldn't it make sense to have a ready and familiar food source in a country that you invaded? Sometimes my think-tank grey-matter takes off running, and it's hard to reign it in. SS 08/13/2020 at 6:45 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationINPrepper. - I know some about the "little ride" from a taser. Don't care to take that "BIG RIDE" from a lightening bolt. NORTH WOODS. - Thanks. I was wondering cause I just watched "The Enemy Below" w/ Robert Mitchum. Thought, do people use a generator to charge batteries and then run primarily off the batteries for electric needs or do they run the generator continuously for power? Then I thought, wonder how that concept would work to supplement solar / battery setup. Run solar / battery for main system and use generator on cloudy days or night to top off battery charge. IDK. DAMedinNY 08/13/2020 at 6:39 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationAnd to top it off, we are competing against every state for what long term canned and staple foods they are trying to stockpile (Seattle Times Aug 8th) per report on ice age farmer. Yeah, I used to think one year was good...I now think two is better. Unfortunately, most people don’t have the funds nor the space to stock for two years. Pegasus 08/13/2020 at 6:38 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItI thought you were talking about my tyrant Gov in Nevada, Ken. There sure are a few out there. Yes, power corrupts. It is sad, I have a few friends who went into politics all full of ideals and morals and values. And then they found out they could get NOTHING done if they did not support someone else's bill. Without the "I will rub your back if you rub mine", nothing would get done. It was a huge blow to all of us, that even the best intentions get no results. Even the best ideas get no results. Term limits are a start. I do not know what else we can do. Start over? And I kinda agree with SMG - none of us will step up to take the lead, so nothing will start over without a major disaster like an EMP. Pray. That is what I am doing! pinky 08/13/2020 at 6:19 PM>> Economic Red Lights Are FlashingOnly credit unions can cross-collateralize. I've been telling people, including here for years, to never have deposit accounts and debt/loan accounts at the same institution regardless if they're banks or otherwise. In fact, you should have nothing but one loan at each institution and only a checking account there that only enough money goes in to pay the loan. Depending on the state you live in they can't actually take your assets unless you don't pay for them. So let's say you have a credit card at a credit union and you want to make a payment on your car. They can redirect that car payment to the unsecured loan (credit card) then repossess your car for non-payment. They can also choose to make you re-affirm all your loans during bankruptcy, such that you essentially will lose your assets because they will repossess/foreclose on your assets. I carry enough insurance, including long term disability insurance, to warrant comfortable survival of anything I care to survive. I never said live beyond your means. I said let your money work for you and let other people's money work for you. I get about $3500 cash back each year playing credit card rewards games. It's free money for me, paid for by those who are awful at the game. Stupid people and their money are often parted, regardless of how rich they are. Don't be stupid and your money doesn't have to wander off. Anony Mee 08/13/2020 at 6:16 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix Itbb_in_GA . . . . “Terms limits for Federal Offices (Rep and Sen) are in the power of each State right now” . . . . Sorry to say that is not the case. in early 1990s WA residents wanted term limits. Speaker of House Tom Foley opposed this. Residents passed a ballot initiative and Foley, from WA himself, sued the people to overturn. US District Court held that states had no constitutional authority to limit federal terms of office. Foley became to first incumbent Speaker since 1862 to fail to get re-elected. LeAnne 08/13/2020 at 5:58 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItIf a majority of the USA wants the country to change and go in a completely different direction, people who cling to "the good old days" don't have much say in it--even if the majority is in the wrong, it's still the right of the citizens to vote for the type of government officials they prefer. AZoffgrid 08/13/2020 at 5:39 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItWatch AOC. Right after she was elected she was complaining that she didn’t have enough money to move to DC before her federal pay checks started in January. I wonder what her bank account looks like now. Maggie's farm 08/13/2020 at 5:38 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItINPrepper, Agree with your grandpa's suggestion about reflex test instead of just vision.You may be able to see clearly, but if the brain doesn't send the right message in short order! This could carry over to Kens topic , some politicians judges etc, may still see issues clearly but the mind doesn't necessarily come up with the right response.Or could be swayed the wrong way by a loud overbearing Vice President who is really the one that will run the Country when he is asleep in the Oval Office.Lol. FinallyOuttaCA 08/13/2020 at 5:22 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationOne of the original docs supporting hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for early treatment of coronavirus was Dr. Zev Zelenko. Here's a link to his paper. If you scroll down there's a "download pdf" button to see the full report: preprints. org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1 While wandering through Twitter, also found where he's pinned a copy of his "Prehospital Management of Covid-19 Zelenko Protocol." Might be worth grabbing a screen print or image download before it -- or his account -- disappears. twitter. com/zev_dr MamaLark 08/13/2020 at 5:20 PM>> Economic Red Lights Are FlashingPinkie - The "keep everything leveraged" merry go round works .... until it doesn't. Everyone is at risk of a devastating injury or illness or loss of a well-paying job. If you are willing to gamble it will never happen to you and you can sleep at night, go ahead. Look at the fine print on the loans you are taking out, many have cross collateralization provisions. So if I borrow for my house, my car, and my business from the same bank and let any one of those loans go bad, they can go after the equity in all of my other assets used for collateral. If you borrow for your business, it is likely you have pledged all your personal assets as collateral under a guarantee even if your business is incorporated. I knew someone who "bet" a million dollars in his IRA overnight on an arbitrage play with the US dollar and Asian currencies. Said he needed to do so to fund his lifestyle like the reasoning for his interest only million dollar plus mortgage. It worked until it didn't. And that was a very sad day for him and his family. On another blog I read daily, the writer said the following (paraphrased) regarding a future downturn from the virus' impact on the economy - "When the music stops, you will be in situ, exactly where you are at that time and good luck making any changes in the future." MamaLark 08/13/2020 at 5:01 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItGood topic. I used to work the equivalent of a second unpaid job every election year as I campaigned for folks I knew running for office. After 8 years or so, I saw too many of them forget the ideals and the people they ran to represent. So I quit volunteering. You take a good and decent person from the life that helped make them that way and move them to a cesspool of greed and self-centeredness and they change. It takes a very strong and grounded person to stand firm. So ideas for fixing the problem: 1. Term limits as Ken has suggested with Presidential and Congressional pay set at 75% of the national median household income in the year of the most recent census and NO benefits of any kind. 2. Limit civil service employees to no more than 5 years in any one position and no more than 20 years total with only a 50% retirement like the military. If we term limit the elected officials and don't term limit the bureaucracy, the bureaucrats will be running the show. 3. With the ability to work from anywhere, move 1% of federal jobs currently in DC from DC to each state and territory. (So a little over 50% would be working in the real world instead of the DC bubble.) 4. Balanced budget amendment with budgets being set for two years. If a balanced budget including all departments is not passed, any departmental budgets passed for the upcoming biennial will be rescinded and the budget will be set as follows: Defense - prior budget adjusted for COLA as determined by SSA and all others at prior year budget reduced by any prior biennial budget deficit on a proportional basis. So if the prior actual biennial deficit was 5%-- ^^^click comment link for more...Albert Stank 08/13/2020 at 4:56 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItI'm for term limits. Some good reading. Some I agree with and some I don't. I am going to print out the topic and responses, and then put it in a folder to be opened in 2025. Hopefully, I will still be free, have shelter and food and water. Maybe Roseanne will be back on TV. SoulSurvivor 08/13/2020 at 4:55 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationNH Michael, Your observations are spot on. I've read about this very scenario in Matthew 24. Coincidence or judgement? If coincidence, things may get better. If judgement, things will surely get worse. Well, I guess time will tell. The "word" given to me was - If the people repent and come to Me, I will heal their nation. If not, your true terror will come from above. Lauren 08/13/2020 at 4:55 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItSure. Many years ago a law was proposed (and passed) which stated that nothing could be part of a law which was not directly related to the title of the bill. By the time it was passed, "And other purposes" had been added to the title... INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 4:55 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItMaggie Kind of reminds me of what my grandpa said years ago. It pertains to drivers licenses. When folks get older, the Bureau of Motor zvehicles (BMV) gives a vision and written exam to dricers every few years when they hit a certain age. He said what they should do instead is give a reflex test. That takes into account the 'freshness' of the mind and body. On that video test, obstacles are put out in front when driving in the simulator to judge their reaction times. If reaction time is too long, license is removed as they could be a potential hazard on the roads. Think of they kid chasing the ball into the street as an example. Unfortunately, my grandpa didn't heed his own advice as he got into a couple of accidents within a One week period with a few of his vehicles he had. Then his license was taken away. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 4:42 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItAgree parson The down-to-earth part has left politics. It is now on high from the mountain top. The folks in government sent to represent us really don't represent the actual make-up of the American people. How many people in the US go through life where they work for 10 or 15 years and then retire multimillionaires several decades later? Many politicians get into politics after working in the private sector and then spend the greater part of their lives as politicians away from almost everyone in the private sector and retire very wealthy? WOW, I know now what I've been doing wrong all these years. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 4:30 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItDennis, Vote for the person and not the party and no party affiliation. If we would get honest and true people that way, I am all for it. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. In communist China, there is essentially only one party, the communist party. The affiliation part really doesn't matter because almost everyone that gets into a political position is a communist. Equal playing field in that area. People here advance to higher positions based on who they know and what clique of the CCP they are in. A persons morals and merits are secondary. Sure, there are many honest people in the CCP but even without the advantage of party affiliation, there are still weeds in the garden. Just my .02 Deep South 08/13/2020 at 4:23 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItTerm limits would be a start for sure! Add in term limits for the SCOTUS staggered 30 year terms and maybe an age limit as well, 70 or 80 and retire. Applies to all federal judges. A second idea that would also require an amendment to the constitution would be all proposed bills to stand on their own, no add-ons for pork barrel projects that few support otherwise. How about a popular national vote to end certain laws, or edicts from the alphabet agencies? If 66% of the country thinks a law is unjust...... Farmgirl 08/13/2020 at 4:15 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItTimely topic, as usual, Ken. As I've been tackling my proverbial 'full plate' of work and life with what seems like a pair of chopsticks, my mind keeps turning over the question 'How did we end up in this quagmire as a country?' There is probably a really complicated answer to that, with lots of interconnected dots, but the word that kept coming to me was tolerance. I've never liked that word, because it has always sounded like putting up with something you'd really rather not. My conservative Christian parents taught my brothers and I many things, among them kindness, forgiveness and compassion. The first bible verse I memorized was Ephesians 4:32: Be ye kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another just as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. I feel like somehow, those virtues, and the conservative tendency to respect the free will of others were somehow twisted into a weapon against us. For an obvious example, an uncomfortable topic comes to mind. Since all of us are born with free will, it is my belief that it is not my place to seek to impose my will on another. If someone chooses an 'alternative lifestyle' that is their choice, though I don't have to agree with it. Judge not, lest ye be judged, right? I've watched as someone's choice turned into someone's agenda to make agreement, not just live and let live but agreement, mandatory. Now, even that isn't enough. Children are now encouraged to explore alternative lifestyles, before they're even old enough to understand such things. Parents are supposed to allow that, in the name of tolerance. That's just one example I can think of. There are many others. I really don't have an answer for this, but I feel like it's connected to everything-- ^^^click comment link for more...INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 4:03 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItAlong with the above. We are seeing a lot of criminal/terrorist activities in the cities. Many cities have been bad places, we all know that. It's just that it has gotten worse. Many businesses are now complaining about the looting. If we read many business owners comments after they were looted, it tells more of the story. Many have said they were all for the 'protests'. There haven't been 'protests' since George Floyd. What that means is they supported the rioting and looting until it got to their business. The majority of Americans are no longer rural. They live in the cities. Look at a map of Hillary voters from the last election. Overlay onto a city map. Viola, almost a perfect match. The city folks voted overwhelmingly for Hillary even though they knew all about her history and ideology. How this ties into with what is going on now paints a very clear picture. That picture is---The United States of America is done. Why?? There are many freedom loving patriots. Yes, but it's a numbers game. There are too many leftist/socialist/marxists today. Here at MSB, we all know about the III%. What we are dealing with is not a III% radical left element but a 10%, 20%, or even a 30% that want the US to be vastly different from the way it has been. Those numbers translate into tens of millions of people. So, what can we do as freedom loving patriots? Nothing All actions to stop the radical left over the last several years was just putting a finger in a failing dam. Sure some things were stopped but most of what has passed has not been stopped and new things arise every day like a governor mandating that masks be worn during a video conference. Not-- ^^^click comment link for more...k-bay 08/13/2020 at 4:03 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItKula, Here,Here! Trey 08/13/2020 at 3:51 PM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessHarbor Freight sells a $15 wireless motion detector alarm set that I really like. The receiver uses 3 C-batteries or a dc plug-in and the IR detector uses a 9v. Use it at the driveway, inside a mailbox, in the shed out back, etc. Maggie's farm 08/13/2020 at 3:49 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItI think politics are unfixable. Term limits are a good idea especially in the Supreme court . It's ridiculous how old some judges are.Even though I am mid sixties I think maybe 70 yrs old should be a mandatory retirement.But the main problem I see with politicians is just Power and Greed.Possibly an inflated sense of self worth clouds the judgement of some.In a nutshell Govt. Is just too BIG To be effective. Bluesman 08/13/2020 at 3:48 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItINPrepper, I totally agree on the "can't fix stupid" as the root cause of the politician problem we face. Stand my Ground 08/13/2020 at 3:43 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItDennis This Un-Godly mess, We the People are facing this Nov 3rd, makes me sick to my soul. It's all a huge pile of sticking horse manure.! It's not gonna matter, civil war, is just staring us right in our faces, and yet, We the People, just sit here. Disgusting. This is what Patriotism is suppose to be. “Even this nation will be on the verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground, and when the Constitution is on the brink of ruin, these people will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean and they shall bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction.” (Joseph Smith Papers, LDS Church Historical Archives, Box 1, March 10, 1844.) I hope Joseph Smith was right. NO, I'm NOT LDS, so don't climb up my throat, it's just a quote, that I referenced to. I'm, NOT gonna debate, ANYONE, on religion, It's your choice, and NOBODY else's business, For a long time now, I have tried to warn We the People, and MSB Patriots, about what was coming, but life was good, at least it was tolerable. There was no time to worry about the future. We had kids to raise, mortgages to pay and relationships to pursue. There was no time to worry about the potential dangers lurking in the future. Although America did not have time to contemplate and worry about the future, the future found a way to catch up with America. Economically, it is too late, America is dead. You may not want to believe it, but we will soon be $28 trillion in debt and still about 40% of the people that were employed, pre Wuhan virus, are not employed today. A grand total of more than 54 million Americans have filed new-- ^^^click comment link for more...DJ5280 08/13/2020 at 3:43 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItWell, unfortunately I think there is no fixing the problem(s). We will probably collapse before anything is ever fixed. Just MHO. pasron 08/13/2020 at 3:41 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItTerm Limits for sure. But I think a part of the problem is the majority of them are lawyers! If we had farmers and businessmen (excuse me) businesspeople running the country, like our founders, the decisions would be much different. Let's see what's an example of a leader that's a businessman? Hmmmm? ScooterFoot 08/13/2020 at 3:40 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItWhich is better - a radical sociopath who's been in office for decades and abuses the people, or a radical sociopath who has just been elected and is full of the latest "woke" nonsense and will abuse the people - perhaps to an even greater extent? This might fall under the old rubric - better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. Term limits may have an impact and I would be for them, but somehow I wonder if that would make the pool of candidates to choose from any better. A problem that I see is that good people don't usually run for office. Good people are usually productive members of society. People who run for and hold office are nearly always parasites on society. INPRepper 08/13/2020 at 3:30 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItSorry folks, Term limits (even though it sounds good) will only do one thing: Hasten the demise of the Republic. Why you ask? Term limits will get out the old and get in fresh blood. YES, that is where the problem lies. Let's use a for instance! Term limits pass congress to two terms of eight years total. That means that in eight years Pelosi, Schumer, and others will be out after those eight years. Right? Wooohoooo---Not do fast. There was a long time serving leftist democrat and a person named AOC decided to run against him. She won. NOW, imagine that Pelosi, Schumer and others are out. Who will fill that void? Some down to earth conservative? Not on your life. They come from entrenched radical left wing districts. So the person replacing them will be even further to the left of Pelosi and Schumer. Now we have more squad members. Many of these long-term leftist politicians are really just holding back the kind of person their local electorates really want. It is just that they are entrenched and have a lot of political clout there. AOC and others got in not because of term limits but term limits would pave the road for them to get in much easier because the twenty year politician would be no more thereby not have a built up political clout. So, we would get another squad member for eight years to be replaced by an even more radical new squad member. Again, term limits would hasten the demise of our Republic. Eli Wags 08/13/2020 at 3:10 PM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessI have 3 of these, they work and only cost 12.97 Foxelli USB Rechargeable Headlamp Flashlight - 180 Lumen, up to 40 Hours of Constant Light on a Single Charge, Bright White Led + Red Light SS 08/13/2020 at 3:00 PM>> Economic Red Lights Are FlashingKeep in mind the historic gold/silver ratio is between 1/10 and 1/18. The ratio now is 1/71.77. If that ratio goes even halfway back to normal.......somebody gonna make some serious bread on silver if they know what they are doing. I have even read some analyst speculate that silver may even be at 1/1 with gold for a short time based on the global economic train wreck about to occur. Dennis 08/13/2020 at 2:55 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItWon't happen, but do away with the party system. No D,R, Green, Independent. Just a name, no party affiliation. We should be voting for the person, not the party. When I was a kid living in a small, rural, agriculture dependent town, where we could see the skyline of Dallas some twenty miles distant, there were no political parties for mayor, council, town marshal, etc. No, you voted for folks you felt you could trust. Most elections, those folks were sought out to run, and usually had to be talked into running. Anybody could get on the ballot, but seldom would two popular townspeople run for the same office. Many reasons for this. Other than town marshal, no other position came with a salary. Their time was donated out of a sense of duty. Service was a sacrifice, not a means of gaining wealth. Today, we seldom know the person we cast our vote for. There is very little handshakin' and kissin' babies...…...no, we vote on a party line that purports to believe what we believe. Good news is (I hope I'm wrong)…….if things don't change.....we will be casting votes at camp meetings, by torch light, rifles slung, pistols at hand......for representatives to negotiate with the neighboring clans for hunting rights boundaries and times and locations for barter fairs...………...and there won't be no democrats or republicans...……... SS 08/13/2020 at 2:34 PM>> Economic Red Lights Are Flashingpinky, What if...... I borrowed some money at fixed rate low interest. I took that borrowed money and bought PMs (heavy on the silver). With the PM fundamentals and the present condition of the economy in mind, do you think say in a year I could pay that loan and ALL my other debt off based on the coming explosion in the PM prices? happy patriot 08/13/2020 at 2:31 PM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessAre there any phone apps that give one a live, real time update on local streets regarding protests, marches, riots, etc.? Ision 08/13/2020 at 2:29 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItNaturally, we should impose Congressional term limits, but also, we should enact term limits for Supreme Court Justices. In order to force Senators to actually represent the State they are from, repeal the Seventeenth Amendment and return the election of a State's Senators to that State's legislature. If a Senator is found to be wanting in any respect, the State Legislature could re-call a troublesome Senator at any time and replace them with a better person. No more renegade Senators, and better State representation, and, your own. Limit eminent domain powers to prevent their abuse. Currently, such laws may be used to take land for any conceivable public purpose, even if such purpose is to raise tax revenue, or to transfer ownership of the taken property to other private citizens. Enact a process wherein a two-thirds majority of the states can vote to nullify any federal law. Expressly require all voters to present a valid photo ID in order to vote in any federal election, while enacting horrifying punishments for voter fraud, and for those guilty of voter abuses. Abolish the crime of murder in any case, wherein, the victim can be shown to have been a trained Marxist operative. Jabba 08/13/2020 at 2:27 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItI can't believe that a governor told state employees to wear masks during online meetings. (Actually I can and it has to do with TOTAL ignorance on the subject of the virus). LOL, its like wearing a condom and looking at a Playboy... I hate saying it, but that is the problem, total ignorance. It goes all the way up to the top. These are our "elected" officials. (We all know the Electoral College elects the president, not you and I.) I have always said the problem with the presidency is that anyone smart enough to be president is smart enough to know they don't want to be the president. blackjack22 08/13/2020 at 2:13 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationBG in TX, Sister has already come out and said she is voting for Biden/Harris. Stand my Ground 08/13/2020 at 2:13 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItAs far as some, Second American Revolution—lock and load, "molon labe,” and all that bogus Happy Horse-Shit—it just ain’t gonna happen. It’s a feverish dream; a fantasy. We the People, just do not have the guts, or the Patriotism, to Stand our Ground. We won't do it. Oh, I guess there might be some fighting and shooting here and there—a few “Über-Warriors,” and isolated incidents—but there won’t be any “10-million man march.” Or a 10-million woman march. I mean, I have questions. Like, what’s the revolution actually about? Who’s in charge? Who’s leading it? Where is the rally-point? What are the rules? Where's the money gonna come from? Who’s got the food? Where’s the water wagon? Where does the Army march to? Crickets…. There won’t be any revolution from the Right. Not by Conservatives, because Trump will follow the law. Once elected, he will crush any rioters, no matter which “side” they are on. I mean—Trump has to. He’d have to crush them—or lead them. And he will not “lead” them into rioting that will change America forever. Trump has to uphold the law as written. That’s just how it is. Further: there’s no place anymore to hide or write pamphlets. Because, they can identify you from a lamppost camera, or from space. They can hear everything you say. They can see in the dark. They can see through walls. They can fly. They effortlessly read your mail. They can kill you from thousands of miles away. They already know who you are. They will not, hesitate to kill you, if it serves their purpose. I hate every political system on Earth. I have no time for any politician, ruler, faked bullshit Cause, or religion. And I loathe any lying Media communist, who assists them to enslave Humanity. They can-- ^^^click comment link for more...Romeo Charlie 08/13/2020 at 2:00 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItKF, Agree 100% and I would add; Congress cannot make exceptions for itself and must comply with any and all laws that they pass. Mandatory revocation of US citizenship and 20 years in Guantanamo Bay prison for any politician that accepts any donation regardless of amount or if they violate their oath of office. Mrs. U 08/13/2020 at 1:56 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationOn the up side Solar Cycle 25 is waking up on Ole Sol. A few sunspots are forming fairly regular now. Maybe we can put the doomsday mini ice age thought away for a bit. Enough negativity to deal with right now. ie spaceweather . com Mrs. U 08/13/2020 at 1:39 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationIf we lose the Senate we are toast no matter who is president. The Pres can only veto a bill one time. Going to be a ride like no other in our history. China knew how to jumble it all up. Jn.3:16 08/13/2020 at 1:34 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItAs go the morals and traditional values, so goes the culture. As goes the culture, so goes the politics. Was the character of the founding generation such that the need for term limits need not be considered? A nation cannot not rise above it’s character level.Thus the non-stop attack against anything that strengthens morales, traditional values, and character. One practical way to help elect someone whose character is least questionable (nobody’s perfect!) is a voter’s guide. Mrs. U 08/13/2020 at 1:31 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationHad not heard of the storm damage....... ya know what ole Mrs. says.......whisper whisper...grain hermit us 08/13/2020 at 1:30 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItHow many elected representatives wish only to be in a minority party so they can sit and complain without actually having to do anything or take a hard stand. But the real corruption lays in the upper levels of the bureaucracy where much lobby money is paid below the radar. And who do the citizens think write all those position papers and proposed bills? Certainly not written by the elected representatives. Just remember the greatest backroom deal ever was Obummer Care - passed in the night and not read by and citizens. Lauren 08/13/2020 at 1:20 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItMy dad worked on the first campaign for Senator Orrin Hatch. He knew him personally and said he was a good man. The night of the vote, Orrin Hatch looked down at his hands, looked at Dad and said, "What am I doing? These are a farmer's hands." That's what he was. A good man who felt he could do it better than it was being done. He ran on a platform of term limits. 42 years later he "retired." Dad didn't work on his second campaign. I think many good people get in--few of them stay good. They get a taste of power and that's it. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 1:07 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItI've heard one thing many times over the years- You can't fix STUPID. The problem is the people keep voting these people into office. Unless they have a moment of realization, they will keep voting them into office. And I don't see people coming to any realization that they should vote differently. Translation into plain English: nothing is going to change because it's the voters that allow this to continue. Bluesman 08/13/2020 at 1:06 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItI agree with term limits for the U.S. Senators and Representatives. While they are in office pay the maximum to an IRA for them that they allow us peons to pay into ours and no further retirement pay for them. I believe so much off our problems are caused by career bureaucrats that are not elected but are in positions of power within different agencies.Don't know how to fix that. We need to eliminate some of the Agencies such as : Dept. of energy, Dept. of education, the EPA, Dept. of homeland security, etc.There is way to much government control of us ! We will never eliminate the $$$ from politics and we can never eliminate the power and greed from it either. cid 08/13/2020 at 1:03 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix Ityou are right ken. term limits are the answer but we will never get it passed. they won't cut their own throats, it just wont happen, to much money involved. how do politicians become millionaires in office, they are power hungry and they are corrupt! I have always said, that anyone who is smart enough to hold an office is smart enough to not do it kevinH 08/13/2020 at 12:56 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix It@Nailbender: "Get the money out of politics. It was never intended as a career. It was also never intended as a way to get rich!" Truer words have never been spoken, you are indeed a wise man. NH Michael 08/13/2020 at 12:54 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationKulafarmer at least with a decent olive barrel or three if you survive the burning of your place to deny them the prize you could go to ground for a while then be able to ah entertain those "nice folks" for a long time. Aside from the occasional hurricane I envy your area for climate and generous food access. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 12:51 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationM That info you found on her won't be there for very long. I huarantee you that right now Big Tech is scrubbing her from the net as we speak. Just like Obummer, almost everything before he got to the senate was scrubbed from the net. Soon, when she is googled, all we will find is a bunch of pictures where she is smiling or laughing (trying to humanize her). INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 12:39 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation100% kula Just like our former hope and change shovel ready chief never even ran a hot dog stand before running the worlds largest economy. One thing is CERTAIN, if they are elected, they will be even richer after leaving office. Look at Obummer the community organizer. Didn't have much of anything Berger becoming pres. NOW, he is rolling in dough. bb_in_GA 08/13/2020 at 12:30 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItTerms limits for Federal Offices (Rep and Sen) are in the power of each State right now, always has been there since the ratification of the Constitution. State legislatures apparently don't want to exercise it because of the perceived disadvantage that this limitation would impose on that State relative to the others in terms of getting the Fed Gov to serve their State (Highest ? motive) or the State politicians aspire to rise higher in the system and have a lifelong career as Federal politicians (more likely motive...) There have always been scoundrels (see Cain vs Abel), but I think the moral quality of our people has declined sufficiently that we have lost the ability to govern ourselves and will likely soon see the results of that failure. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - President John Adams, 1798 <bb INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 12:22 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationWOW, big typo We all know the answer to that sick but true joke. Kulafarmer 08/13/2020 at 12:19 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItAgree 100% Term limits, And to be real clear, 2 terms and thats it forever.... No more ongoing benefits, No lobbying. No donations of anything. No nothing period. Get the money out of politics. It was never intended as a career. It was also never intended as a way to get rich! kevinH 08/13/2020 at 12:18 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItHa, I just knew it! Great minds really do think alike! Plainsmedic 08/13/2020 at 12:16 PM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessMr. Bill, Good comment on refurbishing a freezer or fridge with thermocouple etc. kevinH 08/13/2020 at 12:13 PM>> The Problem With Government And How I Would Begin To Fix ItTwo words: term limits. Now I'll go back and read what Ken has to say... INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 11:57 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationLauren, Exactly hermit us 08/13/2020 at 11:44 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationIf this leftist and criminal crap continues, they may see the true animal instincts that Darwin wrote about - from the law abiding citizens. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 11:33 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationSince the perpetrator was classified as a minority, time served would most likely be minimal since we don't want to oppress any minorities. The media or white priveledge will be blamed and the charges will be reduced to assault. Maybe spend 7 to 10 years behind bars before getting back out onto the streets. If I was the child's father, they wouldn't be breathing free air for very long after getting out. Not a threat but 'accidents' happen.maybe a piano will lose a strap while suspended about twenty stories up and ----- well----- timing sucks sometimes. Kulafarmer 08/13/2020 at 11:27 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationNHM Winter is indeed coming. No matter who wins good folks everywhere will be the losers. Time to check that olive barrel DAMedinNY 08/13/2020 at 11:09 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationVeteran, so sorry to hear of your struggles which are far worse than ours here currently. We are getting to your stage but hopefully not too soon. You and your family are in my prayers for safety. Try food grade diatomaceous earth (not the type used for swimming pools) for your snail infestation. Wear a mask when spreading...very fine particles will bother your lungs but take out the nasty creatures. So no spreading on a windy day. Put it on the soil around the plants. If they are covering the plants, you will have to sprinkle on the plants. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 10:40 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationWhat does a desk, Bill Clinton, and Kampala Harris have in common? I'm not going to type an answer because we all already know the answer to that dick but true joke. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 10:33 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationWe can't forget that we MUST drain out the water from the hoses before winter. The freezing and expanding water can destroy a hose. I have seen hoses that were great the previous fall but soon after using in the spring time had many bubbles. The hoses had to be thrown out because it would have cost more in splice kits than to just replace the whole dang thing. We can't forget to take care of what we do have. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 10:21 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationWe can't forget to add hose clamps to that list as well. Regards Jabba 08/13/2020 at 10:18 AM>> OPSEC And Your Circle Of Friends, Family, AcquaintancesLOVE IT!!! I have the same approach. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 10:16 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationVery nice Mrs U. What about dosage? How much would we take or use with food dishes? Thanks Ohhh, I really love marshmallows too. Especially melted with graham crackers. Lauren 08/13/2020 at 10:02 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationI read something interesting this week, that put an interesting perspective on some of what is going on. It said that the people we fight against see logic and logical thinking as part of what they are fighting against. Therefore, science, math, and all other forms of logical thought, must be eliminated. This would naturally include consequences and personal responsibility. History becomes a casualty of this line of thought because it is full of examples of personal responsibility. Science and math, as I mentioned before, philosophy, and any form of morality will be natural extensions of this. The thing is, I have seen it. Ignore the facts. Facts don't matter. Only the feels matter. Personal responsibility doesn't even enter into their heads. What they want is all, and what they want is the only thing that matters. What they want is by definition RIGHT. Rationalizing (in a sense) anarchy, sadism, and sociopathy. The idea that this is the way they THINK makes sense of a lot of the behavior. In essence, they eliminate everything that makes us human, and only the animal remains. Jabba 08/13/2020 at 10:01 AM>> OPSEC And Your Circle Of Friends, Family, AcquaintancesI get the whole concept of OPSEC. This is such a fine edge though. How does one retain OPSEC and at the same time try to find others of the like minded persuasion while trying to build a MAG (mutual assistance group). There are few people that say lone wolf it. Others that say you need a group to survive. Once the cat is out of the bag, people know who you are and what you are up to. Plainsmedic 08/13/2020 at 9:58 AM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessKm in nc, Do your research. I have a small solar and small wind for back-up. It takes a significant investment to power a fridge or a freezer, even when diy. I can operate both with full sun and a little wind. The sun doesn't always shine and the wind doesn't always blow. Realistically, I think I'd concentrate the power to my freezer and utilize ice and zeer pots as needed for fridge. I haven't actually tried it over long periods of time. It's awfully easy to have the grid as a back-up. I really DON'T want an emp or cme. It would be a drastic change of lifestyle, for sure. I'd encourage you to hurry up, with all your preps. Good luck to you. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 8:32 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationWhen I hear comments like that, two words come to mind. Career Criminal! There is no way that a person says stuff like that and has not been skirting the law for a long time. That is because how they justify theirs and others actions. I robbed the gas station because that 'big oil' company has lots of money. I beat the white guy because he represents what has been preventing my success. I stole their car because they need to get a taste of my life walking everywhere. The way it is with these 'career criminal' mentalities is that it's always everyone else's fault. They are never responsible for their own actions. Since they are kept down by 'the Man', they believe they are justified in their actions. Ken Jorgustin 08/13/2020 at 8:31 AM>> Drinking Water Storage – How Long In Plastic Containers?Related: [ Read: How Long Can You Store Drinking Water? ] Ken Jorgustin 08/13/2020 at 8:26 AM>> SHORTAGES – What Are You Seeing Out There?Shortages Topic: I made a run to 'civilization' yesterday. For me, that's a town of about 6,000 😉 One stop was Home Depot. Had a list. One shocker was seeing the huge aisle of various Deckmate / deck screws MOSTLY EMPTY! That's a lot of screws! Holy Cow Batman! pinky 08/13/2020 at 7:47 AM>> Economic Red Lights Are FlashingI carry a lot of debt. Automobiles.. houses... Blah blah blah. Probably half a million. Why would I pay cash? It is cheaper for me to use some other rich (richer?) person's money than my own. I borrow it at 0-4% and pay it back. Meanwhile I can use my cash for other things. Like investments. On a 0% loan I am actually making money due to inflation because I am repaying a debt with cheaper money. Due to inflation, a 4% loan is closer to 2% today. What I am saying is, if you have good credit now is the time to borrow every penny you can at a fixed interest rate. Let's say inflation goes to 5%... That means you will likely have money in your hand that is worth the same going forward. If inflation goes that high we will likely see mortgages back into the 7% range and money market accounts in the 3-5% range. So throw that cheap money you borrowed at 4% into a money market account and as you pay down the loan with cheaper dollars (inflation) you will be making money. When I was in college I was taking cash advances of $30k at 0% and putting it into money market accounts paying 2.25%. I had zero assets and a net worth of MINUS $100k and a job that paid $10k. While I have precious metals (silver) it is mostly to be able to buy my way out of a tough situation if greenbacks have no value. Real hedging against the future is with assets. If greenbacks lose value it is because there have been so many shortages on stuff that it skews value/worth. The only reason the US dollar is doing so well is because everywhere else is doing so bad.-- ^^^click comment link for more...NH Michael 08/13/2020 at 5:05 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationStand My Ground I was wondering when someone would post about the elephant in the grocery store. Thank you. Last years 2019 flooding destroyed a large percentage of our farm crops of the Midwest. Destroyed silos full of corn and soybeans from the previous years crops. We burned though what reserves the farmers had keeping the stores supplied this year. There IS NO National Grain Reserve, the last was sold off in 2008 by the USDA. We have more troubles coming, problems that MOAR fake money in the EBT cards cannot fix. These base crops produce so many of the foods we eat daily, from cooking oil, bread, feed for our beef, chickens and so on, breading and fillers in our foods if you read the labels. Inflation is easily described as too many dollars chasing that loaf of bread. NOW how about a REAL LACK of the basics that make that loaf of bread, carton of eggs and "happy meals"? We all know how much fake money has been dumped into our system with COVID "Relief" and now the Sock Puppet and the REAL President Elect Kamila is PROMISING everybody 2K MOAR COVID Relief Per Month until the crisis is done for VOTES. The GIMME DAT'S will love her.... They can create MOAR fake Money with a few keystrokes but they cannot make a loaf of bread to buy. Old Homesteader tells us of grocery store supply issues BEFORE this Derecho destroyed a large part of this years harvest. My friends who order food for their Grocery Stores and WM tell me the same problems of ordering and HOPING something shows up. Our own Modern Survival Blog shortage reports show a strained system where some areas have enough, some have little or none of this foodstuff or that canning-- ^^^click comment link for more...DaisyK 08/13/2020 at 5:00 AM>> SHORTAGES – What Are You Seeing Out There?New sign on grocery store door: "We are short of coins. If you are paying by cash, please try to use exact change." Many empty shelves in the store. The limits on meat and bread had been removed, but there were still limits on paper products and cleaning products, and a new limit -- on all types of oil and cooking sprays. I am continuing to notice shortages of canned soups and other convenience products, such as Knorr sides, instant potatoes, and instant meals. A new shortage seems to be developing -- processed cheese. There seemed to be the normal selection of hard cheese (in our small town the selection is never large) but processed cheese and products with processed cheese in them were in short supply. I couldn't find jar cheese, cheese crackers, cheese spread, cheese bread, cheese sausages, or even Kraft singles, even those those last were supposed to be on sale and it was the first day of the sale -- before the ad came out. The sales start on Wednesday, but the newspaper comes on Thursday. k-bay 08/13/2020 at 4:17 AM>> Drinking Water Storage – How Long In Plastic Containers?GW Sorry forgot to add that water bottle shown at the head of this article, if you look, you'll freak, most of them are toxic, as in class 7, BPA. All the such bottles out here are. k-bay 08/13/2020 at 4:14 AM>> Drinking Water Storage – How Long In Plastic Containers?GeisterWolf Please remember that most bottled water doesn't have the mineral content that most ground water has. Your need them. Also as you likely know be careful of your containers. I have noticed that a number of sites tell you to store in pop bottle, don't, most of them are single use, and prolonged use will contaminate the water. Grits 08/13/2020 at 3:04 AM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessI know it’s not important in the scheme of things, but how about a portable DVD/Blu-ray player? In a grid down EMP situation, other than a few ham radio operators that had their radios in a faraday cage, there won’t be anything going out over the airwaves or the internet. With a portable DVD player you’ll still be able to watch something from your collection, time allowing. And a portable player is smaller and easier to fit in a small faraday cage. Between me and my brother we have about 800 movies and TV shows to go through. A few duplicates, but still a good variety to cycle through. Recent lockdowns since March have just reinforced my theory for the need for periodic entertainment during SHTF. Books are great entertainment but during SHTF we’ll be working long hours and probably more physical than usual and sometimes you’ll just be too tired to read. And then there’s kids... Luckily they don’t have a problem with watching something 500 times. 😝 You might want more than one portable player unless you’re ok with watching Cars or Frozen 500 times. 🤦♂️🤣 GeisterWolf 08/13/2020 at 2:56 AM>> Drinking Water Storage – How Long In Plastic Containers?Just a little something I read on a website about water storage. Myth #1: Water can expire. Fact: Water does not expire. It can become contaminated (chemically or biologically), but it doesn’t “go bad.” Water can have a stale taste, but that taste can be eliminated by rotating your water and purifying it. If a water storage source is in ideal conditions (it started out clean and was stored in a dark, cool area, not directly on concrete or near harsh fumes and chemicals), it technically can store indefinitely. Rotate water for peace of mind or if there is a risk of contamination. Anony Mee 08/13/2020 at 1:45 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationAntique Collector . . . . Yes, they came as students, but eventually became citizens. Takes change of status from non immigrant student to immigrant to be able to access citizenship. Just wondered what the basis for immigrant status was. . . . . “Please explain” - See 14th Amendment section 1 and 8 U.S. Code chapter 12. There are a few exclusions. Trump is said to be working on it. Hope so. I think children born in the US should have the status of their parents. . . . . Agree with aka - she gives me the creeps. k-bay 08/13/2020 at 12:58 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationM'Lynn Thanks, I agree she's just a position switching little viper. As I previously "penned" here, she stands for NOTHING. No convictions, she's sought power by attaching herself to power figures, she is simply put, quite unqualified for the position she seeks, namely the presidency of this Grand nation. INPrepper 08/13/2020 at 12:53 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationI wonder if it's a magnetometer that was hanging under the helicopter? k-bay 08/13/2020 at 12:53 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationKula Born at Children's Hospital (now Rehab hospital of the Pacific.) Raised up in Maryland and Virginia, returned to the island as a teenager when my Dad was sent here to open a satellite tracking ground station. Been in and out of the islands every since. My three bads were living in LA later SF and later just down the street from the "chop zone" for a six month lash-up years ago. Gopher 08/12/2020 at 11:56 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThanks Dennis! Just did my x-mas shopping for the big kids. Deep South 08/12/2020 at 11:55 PM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessA cheap multi meter would let you check batteries, ac voltage from a gen set and continuity in wiring or electronic circuits. Two would be better. Keep at least one in a faraday cage. Stand my Ground 08/12/2020 at 11:46 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationIowa, Wisconsin and Illinois were hard-hit by a rare kind of storm Monday, a derecho, with winds hitting 100 mph. 10 million acres of farm crops destroyed in Iowa, 10 million.! 1/3 of total crop acres in Iowa. Numerous farm structures, destroyed, too many to count. Golf ball size hail totally ruins thousands of acres of crops in South Dakota. Losses into the 100's of millions of dollars. Youtuber, Cole the Cornstar, suffers $500,000 damage. just one farmer among 1,000's M’Lynn 08/12/2020 at 11:28 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversationk-bay - No egg. I fully suspect that is exactly how she feels and has uttered something very similar to those exact words. She kept non-violent prisoners in prison because they provided good labor to the state! A judge had to order her to release them. She’s no choir girl. Yet she sure is making DJT look like an altar boy in comparison. 😏 INPrepper 08/12/2020 at 11:25 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationAnd then worserest. Miss I Made It Myself 08/12/2020 at 11:24 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThank you for reminding us that we really aren’t in control. That God’s mercy is never ending and His love is immeasurable. SS 08/12/2020 at 11:07 PM>> Economic Red Lights Are Flashingnot so sure, Yep. The Bernie Madoff (Made off - how ironical) deal should show folks their investments are not secure. As you say, once you deposit your money in the bank, it - by law, is not yours any longer. Livin' in the Woods 08/12/2020 at 11:06 PM>> List Of Electronic Devices For Emergency PreparednessI have a jump start box that seems to be in use constantly. It's a wally world power start? Not sure. It has a work lifte, 2 cig plug ins, 2 USB plugs with different power rates, an air compressor, a 200 watt inverter, and of course jumper cables. I never really used the inverter. The other day I decided to test it out. It powered a window/box fan for 5 hours before I finally shut it down. I also plugged in a 12 inch, 12 volt road pro truckers fan after the first couple hours at the same time. I know some will say it's too much of a gadget. But it has proven very handy to air up tires in very remote parts of the property. As well as being able to jump start everything from a 1950 something Harry Ferguson tractor, my camo bombed Urban Insult vehicle, to lawn mowers etc. I only bought it to replace a much higher priced ac telco jump box that was on its last leg. But it hasn't let me down yet. And I was very surprised the inverter worked that well for that long till I shut it off. There are off the shelf units like papa smurf mentioned. Goal Zero is 1 of them. But the price is high for what you get. Another thing about the different jump boxes available. And there are many available on amazon. Is that you can recharge the jump box off your car or even a riding mower if need be in a pinch. Kulafarmer 08/12/2020 at 10:56 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationAC,,, Because democrats,,, Thats why.