Recent Comments on MSB Latest 100 Comments on Modern Survival Blog Kulafarmer 01/19/2021 at 9:09 AM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALWay easier to do maintenance, over here snow isnt a problem, most remote areas its mildew, humidity and airborn contaminates are high. Bummin' 01/19/2021 at 8:59 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…Farmgirl, that description was not originally made by MamaLark but previously by someone who was obviously intending to instigate a rebuke via an infantile comment. Iowa needs no defense. As Kevin Costner said: "Is this heaven?" In the Mitten 01/19/2021 at 8:47 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThank you for your response jon dowe. I have some from 2016, so they are obviously past their time. I do have some with more current expiration dates, but didn't want to waste these if they might still be useful. MamaLark 01/19/2021 at 8:46 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…One thought I had about the denigrating remark about women was maybe they are perspiring because they are working - being productive and their size relates to being well-fed. So a state where you are able to be productive and well-fed may be a point for site selection. Radon is an issue with lower level/underground indoors confinement and able to be mitigated. It's found somewhere in most states. Manure - there's a reason knowledgeable people say it smells like money! Organic fertilizer and locally sourced protein. Two more plusses for Iowa. Most rural areas don't have much actual discrimination because there aren't enough people to do all the things that need to be done. Many parts of the communities are run by women because they so outnumber the men due to the hazards of farm work. Smell? Be glad you haven't had the vid and still have an easily triggered olfactory system. Again perspective. Dookie! 01/19/2021 at 8:44 AM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALMy plan is to build a wooden deck behind my garage (Southern Facing) and mount my Solar Panels on the deck. Makes it easier to access and I'll have the ability to run the wires under the deck into the garage that will house the batteries, inverter etc. Kind of like a raised access floor. No mud, no grass to maintain and of course no roof to climb on when you have to do maintenance. MamaLark 01/19/2021 at 8:36 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…Agreed. I haven't, in my frequent travels there and through there, seen much of what was said, but I figured it was a perspective. But perhaps a perspective more suited for a different communication channel. Not sure how it relates to preparedness. Maybe a demonstration of an attitude? I'll leave the assessment as to whether it's a beneficial attitude for being prepared to each reader. Farmgirl 01/19/2021 at 8:02 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…MamaLark, I grew up in Iowa, my home state. I wouldn't have described it that way at all. Except maybe for the winter, though brutal is a bit of a stretch. All in the eye of the beholder, I guess. MamaLark 01/19/2021 at 7:13 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…Since I drove through Iowa recently and saw sunshine for a significant part of the drive, I will assume your literal "solid grey haze all year" is for effect and not literal. Thankfully we Americans still have the right to move freely. So good luck finding your new state to live in. If you don't move, I guess you must enjoy being miserable. K T 01/19/2021 at 6:57 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…Shemale porn? Why? Ron D 01/19/2021 at 6:57 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…Wow. I would rather look at shemale porn then look at Iowa. The Jew 01/19/2021 at 6:53 AM>> POLL: What State Do You Live In, And Why…Iowa. Such a disgusting state to live in. Poorly managed, very little opportunities. Has horrible roads, people, and weather. Also very racist. The woman are overweight, and smell. The air smells like hog manure, and it is affecting our water quality now. Also, we are one of The few states that have a high amount of radon in our water and soil. A lot of people have mental problems out here, expect a lot of awkward conversations. Back to the racist issue, we have a lot of anti government radicalized white supremacists here, they have made life hell for non white people. The winters are severe and fierce. And the summers are super hot and humid. Iowa is a flat land, we get the worse cloud cover (its literally a solid grey haze all year) we have to turn on the lights in the house during the day. Charles Ponzi 01/19/2021 at 6:48 AM>> Deagel Forecast For USA – Population Drops 70% by 2025COVID-19 Vaccinations? serenity0357 01/19/2021 at 6:27 AM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALI have a small system for limited emergency use, battery chargers, live stock water heaters, circular saws, etc. I placed a 4x4 pressure treated post in the ground and mounted a 8 ft cattle gate to it. I put a wheel on the far end to help support the weight of my panels, and so I could also swing the panels from East to West, for manual solar tracking, if I should feel the need. Than I built a wooden frame on the cattle gate to mount the 800 watts of solar panels, feeding a small battery bank in my storage shed. I also have a 5,000 watt diesel generator for the house back-up needs. jon dowe 01/19/2021 at 6:04 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationITM, After their expiration date, their effectiveness is greatly reduced. Air gradually gets through the thin plastic wrapping and that's it. You might try vacuum sealing a few of them to see if that extends their life. I used some at work the winter of the year after purchase and they were minimally useful. jon dowe 01/19/2021 at 5:49 AM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALThank you, AC! Will keep that in mind...! GrGrandma 01/19/2021 at 3:33 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThank you PapaS, think I am going to leave water problem for bro. Moving in next month, this well stuff is just over my pay grade, will pass info off to him. He is the mechanic & Mr fixit man. Naval orange tree did well this year, 7 days dehydrating candied orange slices, tested with da & friend, loved them, want a refill, nope, great way to consume vit C, made orange liqueur & candied orange rind also. Don’t want to see another orange for a month. wasp 01/19/2021 at 3:14 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversationprocess your bugs through a chicken cid 01/19/2021 at 12:21 AM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALnot so sure if you had a good volt meter that can read in millivolts, you could test across the two dissimilar metals. any voltage would indicate electrolysis. or just simply insulate between the two. not so sure 01/19/2021 at 12:01 AM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALAny problem with the galvanized struts and the aluminum solar panel frames having galvanic corrosion between the dissimilar metal valances? not so sure 01/18/2021 at 11:54 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALThose panels have the short circuit current rating (Isc). Makes you wonder what would happen if you did short circuit the solar panels and use that internal resistance to melt the snow. I^2R is power (heat) across your internal resistance. grannyo 01/18/2021 at 11:54 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationMamaLark, Thank you. We hope so too. blackjack22 01/18/2021 at 11:06 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALKen, on your panels, what is the drop off % when a cloud goes across them ( is there a 5%, 10%, or more drop in output)? If you can, who made them ? Bummin' 01/18/2021 at 10:21 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation"send to Kindle" is a free app from Amazon with which you can make your own books from a PDF formatted document. You can find it on their website. Nice thing about it is that you have a copy on your computer where it is secure. Papa Smurf 01/18/2021 at 10:13 PM>> How To Make A Survival Kit-Mom told me, it was cause you could take a bath in Sweetwater and then get dressed in Plainview LOL -Papa S. Ken Jorgustin 01/18/2021 at 10:08 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALYes, solar panels love the cold for max output! Papa Smurf 01/18/2021 at 10:07 PM>> How To Make A Survival Kit- Lauren, Good start, but I would like to see you add a couple of ways to start a fire. I’m assuming you don’t smoke. So, I would add a BIC butane lighter at the minimum. You can start a fire with one whether or not it has fuel in it. Better yet, add a ferrocerium rod and some storm/waterproofed matches in a case as well. Sometimes butane lighters will fail you. You might see Ken’s ;Make Fire in the Toughest Conditions with Magnesium Bar and a FireSteel’ article, down in the comments I mentioned a case where mine failed in a rough place. - Papa S. Vickie 01/18/2021 at 10:04 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationI don’t have all of the details yet however it seems that a judge in New York issued a court order forcing a hospital to treat a 80s female with COVID infection and on ventilator with Ivermectin. She is suppose to be recovering. Don 01/18/2021 at 9:53 PM>> If You Could Only Buy One Best Survival Knife, What Would It Be?My first Kurkuri was a "Junky Jungle" 10" with rose wood handle scales. After cutting down a dead 10" Dogwood tree I noticed the aluminum rivets were loose. And the scales were loose . I bought a carbide drill bit and drilled three more holes thru the tang. Then I used epoxy and steel pins to re secure the handle. No problems since and I can chop all I want. The kurkuri is a cross between a heavy knife and a hatchet. Lauren 01/18/2021 at 9:51 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThere are systems that will transfer a file to another format. If you care about having the books, it's worth it. What I hated about the Kindle was that books I had purchased scrolled off if I hadn't used them in a while. In the Mitten 01/18/2021 at 9:35 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationDoes anyone know how long hand/toe warmers will still work past their expiration date? I'm trying to put together an emergency kit for my son to keep in his backpack for school. MtnPrepper 01/18/2021 at 9:16 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALI have two 600-watt arrays, each framed with SuperStrut. One is on a low roof that we can reach with a push broom. The second is freestanding with the panel frame bracketed to a galvanized fencing pole mounted horizontally on top of a couple 4"x6" treated lumber posts sunk in concrete. We sweep snow off when taking care of animals in the morning, typically. The idea with the horizontal pole was to be able to pivot the array down in the winter here in the higher latitudes. In practice, there's more than enough summer sun for my needs even without sweating the angle and there's not enough output difference at the steepest (winter) angle over the middle (equinox) angle to bother with repositioning - at least for my needs. Cold temperatures really pump up the output, too. Papa Smurf 01/18/2021 at 8:55 PM>> To ALL MSB Regulars- GrGrandma, Looked at what you mentioned, have to agree they are expensive. If you look at hand water pumps on Vimeo, there are several videos in English and Spanish on there. You will want to watch several of the videos to get an idea how to do it. You will want to keep your hand on the pause to read the instructions. One of the videos does include drilling your own well with standard Home Depot-type equipment. I have built such a well pump, but already have an 80-foot well with water at 50'. It has worked with an experimental installation, but it is stashed in the garage pending a need for it to be used. I paid less than $140 for mine. There is a PDF for download for just the pump. If you don’t mind investing a little bit of time, you can get to DIY stage for a lot less money. The standard pump is supposed to be capable of being worked by a grade-schooler, but drilling the well looks like a job for a couple of grown men. The estimated lifespan for one of these wellpumps is estimated to be 20 years and I forget how many hundred thousand gallons of water they expect out of them. - Papa S. JDisawesome 01/18/2021 at 8:52 PM>> Grocery Store Canned Food For Your Deep PantryIf the can isn't bulging, I'll eat it. Sometimes things I've eaten over 6 years past "expiration" date taste a little like can but otherwise have been fine. I've never been ill from this & have done it multiple times. I did have a can of tuna explode while opening it. Not a pleasant smell. Lauren 01/18/2021 at 7:15 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationOops. Sorry, Ken. Antique Collector 01/18/2021 at 7:12 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALjon dowe Heads up on the wind turbines, if they do not have a cage around the blades they will take out native birds flying in the area. Neighbor placed a large one on their property, I heard the bird hit it when it was chasing a meal in flight. Thought you should know, they are nice but cause a lot of damage to the mother natures population control. Pecora 01/18/2021 at 7:10 PM>> Foods That Don’t Store Well For ‘Long Term’Thanks for the reply DA. I’m going to go out tomorrow and see what’s available. I feed both chickens and sheep and corn can be fed to both in a pinch. I’ll look into buying some whole corn since it stores better. T in TX 01/18/2021 at 6:51 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALThank you for explaining. I didn't realize even short amounts of sunlight will help keep the charge. mountain man 01/18/2021 at 6:28 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALI looked into that and it was not recommended. The panels are not glass so there may be some adverse affect. Livin' in the Woods 01/18/2021 at 6:19 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALbb I use rainex winter mix for windshields during the winter. I shoot it on with a bug sprayer or a worx hydroshot battery powered pressure washer to remove any snow build up without having to climb up on a ladder. It works for me. DAMedinNY 01/18/2021 at 6:01 PM>> SHORTAGES – What Are You Seeing Out There?I attempted to purchase 20% poultry pellets again today from our local suppliers...again, it is not available. We have many suppliers in our area. Fortunately we knew this was coming, so I ordered an alternative in early December. My poultry are being slowly changed over to a mixture that contains more peas for the protein. I will be good for awhile, but I am also contemplating reducing my chicken flock. The chickens love the new stuff but the turkeys and ducks are not quite as happy about the new stuff in their feed ration. I also stocked up more oyster shell because I go through a lot of that. 20% does not have the same levels of calcium as the 16% standard chicken mash. I also was able to get standard grains so I can continue to mix up the scratch that I also provide (it also has oats, wheat, corn, sunflower seeds, and buckwheat, along with kelp powder. I have included triticale and barley from time to time. jon dowe 01/18/2021 at 5:58 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALThe retirement house I'm building will have two wind turbines (Air 30's) and 8 solar panels-48 volt system in two strings of four. Only running lighting, fridge and freezer, security cameras and garage door openers on it. I'm putting the panels on the second story roof (2/12 in 12 pitch, so fairly flat) to prevent theft/vandalism in my isolated AO (It's already happened with other items on my property). I drafted into the design for a roof access hatch from a room on the second floor. Also bolting a heavy security harness at the peak of the roof for safety, since I live alone. Then again, it only snows about three or four days a year here. But hey, stuff happens! The nice thing about the wind turbines is that during the shorter days of winter, it gets much more windy here, particularly during middle of the night... A win-win. Ken, your mounting system looks nice! DAMedinNY 01/18/2021 at 5:50 PM>> Foods That Don’t Store Well For ‘Long Term’You will get more condensation in the can if stored in temps that vary throughout the day. I had one container of cracked corn stored in more regulated temp area that only made it a couple months before I felt it was off, I don’t know how long it was stored before I got it. Now I only use whole corn to make sure I get all the nutrients and know when it was cracked. My whole corn seems to last for many, many months....so far over 9 months. Hope this helps. Ken Jorgustin 01/18/2021 at 4:59 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALNo, I don't believe there would be any benefit. Ken Jorgustin 01/18/2021 at 4:57 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALYes, the panel's exterior frames are bonded together and grounded with a ground rod at each frame location (per code). I have 3 panels per frame. Each panel is tied in series for higher voltage (less loss). Each frame location has a junction box. The electrical (DC) is sent back to the house via conduit that I trenched underground. The rest of the system is inside the house. Mrs. U 01/18/2021 at 4:54 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationVickie that is good news. We won't debate putting it on the skin again. Everyone to do their own research. bb_in_GA 01/18/2021 at 4:51 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALIs there any benefit to applying something like Rain-X to make the panel surface more slick during the Winter months ? <bb Ken Jorgustin 01/18/2021 at 4:50 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVAL@T, Well, it is HIGHLY dependent on how overcast it is. Actually, heavy overcast I'll get next to nothing. But light to medium overcast I might get 250 - 500 - 800 watts all day. But if it's partly cloudy, when the sun breaks through for those periods - it goes full-on max charge up to 3800 watts (ish). So, it really "depends"! Stardust 01/18/2021 at 4:18 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALI have solar lighting and one of the maintenance chores is brushing the snow off, but have a heck of a time brushing the snow off my TV dish on the roof, so I understand the difficulty for those in snowy areas NOT to have roof mounted solar panels. California (Adam) 01/18/2021 at 3:55 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALThanks! Did you ground yours too? I built two 500w arrays from 2x4s and slotted angle iron. I can get them assembled and hooked up to my solar generator in an hour in the event of a prolonged outage. During our normal operation our grid tied panels on the roof keep things running. T in TX 01/18/2021 at 3:54 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALWow, that is a lot of snow and it’s beautiful! How do you continue to get a bit of charge in such cloudy weather and little sunlight? Ken Jorgustin 01/18/2021 at 3:43 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALYes, they're fastened to concrete support piers. One day I might write up how I built the ground mounts. Good idea. Ken Jorgustin 01/18/2021 at 3:40 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationVickie, and others, Lets move all political oriented topics to the Open Forum at AttackOnLiberty.com Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 3:29 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationIf ever, usually not California (Adam) 01/18/2021 at 3:25 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALConcrete piers? That’s a great looking array. And detailed pics/build write ups? MadDog 94 01/18/2021 at 3:17 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationYes indeed saw that too! They are trying to stop 10,000 of them at the far south Mexican border. This "caravan" was said to be at our border by Friday to jus stroll on in because president Harris said our country would be open to all. Come to Kalifornia go to the welfare office without ID or a Social security number fill out a 1page form and get 360$ per person and a 3 day motel voucher, Go as a USA citizen and you are handed a 10 page form and must wait at least 2 weeks to be given help. Minerjim 01/18/2021 at 3:01 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationDouble Tap, There is usually more than one way to solve a problem. My thought with the SO cord route was that you might have those compents on-hand, or could implement it in an emergency situation. It could be done to code also. Good opportunity to barter your engineering skills for an electricians electrical skills. DoubleTap 01/18/2021 at 2:34 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationYeah I know enough to definitely hire an electrician. I was just looking to see what others have done to solve this problem.As an engineer I tend to over-analyze most everything so sometimes I like to see if there is an easier way. I had figured a transfer switch would be the best way and will eventually get one, didn't know if there was another way that I didn't know about that would be easier. Thanks everyone! Mrs. U 01/18/2021 at 2:26 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversationopps sorry BG's s... wouldn't stink. Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 2:23 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThanks for the tip! 😎🤙🏻 Mrs. U 01/18/2021 at 2:22 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationSuper cattle huh, Would that not mean super cow patties and more methane? cid 01/18/2021 at 2:20 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationD. T. if you do the install yourself and something goes wrong, you can be held liable personally and your homeowners insurance will not cover you. you will sleep better knowing a licensed contractor has done it right. if something goes wrong, its on them and not you. P.S. electricity is nothing to fool with. i don't mean to sound snide, but if you have to ask questions here, you don't need to attempt it yourself. that stuff will kill you. be safe, and good luck Jack Frost 01/18/2021 at 2:19 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationBummin, KF and aka try project Gutenberg if you haven’t already for free out of copyright books in various formats. There are all sorts of fiction and non fiction books available. Some are pretty los but others are newer, at least by several decades lol! McCatfish 01/18/2021 at 2:16 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThanks Mrs U. I always wondered why no one mentioned hams for storage. I did a search on here but it comes up with "Ham Radios" Not ready to try and eat one of those :) Ken Jorgustin 01/18/2021 at 2:15 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVAL@Antique Collector, I used 10' Galvanized SuperStruts from Home Depot -- and associated hardware to put it all together. My panels are rated 315 watts each. I have 12 total for a theoretical 3780 watts. cid 01/18/2021 at 2:07 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALgood idea ken Mrs. U 01/18/2021 at 2:05 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationMcCatfish, country hams will store real well as is, IF they are stored correctly which would be cool area with low moisture. They might still drip a little so put down protection on the floor. The idea behind the salt and sugar rub in the cloth is preservation. Mold might develop, but can be wiped off with vinegar. My grandparents/aunts/uncles stored a lot of hams and rotated them out. They had cool basements. If you make jerky seal in vac pacs or mylar with oxygen absorbers and a desiccant. I have found ham to be the best consistency rehydrated meat from the freeze dryer. Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 1:58 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThe late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. taught that people "must learn to live together as brothers and sisters or perish together as fools," Wise wise man Antique Collector 01/18/2021 at 1:51 PM>> Why I Built Ground Mounts For My Solar Panels — SNOW REMOVALKen What material style of bracing are you using to support the panels in the photo? What size wattage is each panel? Antique Collector 01/18/2021 at 1:44 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationDouble Tap I concur with Minerjim. If YOU install the transfer switch & it is done incorrectly harming someone or property. You will held responsible from what I have gathered as df is an electrician. Installation permits are way up in this area & inspectors are finding installs that could have caused injury or damage to neighboring properties. Check your insurance cover believe it will not cover this type of loss(non professional install). Better to spend the $$$ and have a professional do the work that way your behind is covered. mho Minerjim 01/18/2021 at 1:27 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationDouble Tap, look around online for a transfer switch. Just saw a single citcuit, 60 amp, 220v manual transfer setup for around $140. I would still suggest you get an electrican to help you mount this, you want to make sure it is installed safely. Edward Rogers 01/18/2021 at 1:21 PM>> Ammo Shortage – It’s Gone – And I Mean Virtually Everywhere…Academy has it 8.99 a box in east Texas. First come first serve. Longview Texas. Dookie! 01/18/2021 at 1:18 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationDoubleTap I second the suggestion of getting a Transfer Switch. Then you can pick and choose what you can run using your generator and not worry about backfeeding the power lines. 0ldhomestearder 01/18/2021 at 1:16 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationKula ,,,,,,,the folks with wealth have made it possible to live in the valley for those not so well off that are like thinkers ,,its called "commuinty" Tea and chocolate Minerjim 01/18/2021 at 12:59 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationDouble Tap, They make "transfer switches" that can do just what you said, isolate a load from the electrial service so you can run the load off a generator. You could concevably put a break in the electrical run to your well pump and septic pump. this would involve putting a physical break in the lines, and mounting a switched electrical recepticle on the service side and then box with an SO cord (and male plug) from the load. The idea would be to normally have the SO cord plugged into the recepticle from service. In the event you needed to power the pumps off of a genset, you would disconnect the SO cord (with plug) and then plug it into a genset. Basically you would put "power cords and plugs" on the pumps so you could plug them into whatever power source you wanted to use. You must put a switch on the recepticle side, this way you can safely plug in the SO cord without a live load (switched off! if you plug into a recepticle with a live load, you can get ARC-Flash! very dangerous!) the only draw back i see would be the cost of the recepticle, SO cord, and plug rated for higher amperage of the pump. just my 2 cents. best to have an electrican help with this. McCatfish 01/18/2021 at 12:48 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationQuestion for those who have bought/cured/eaten one of the country hams. Its been years since I have gotten one of them but I am thinking about it now. Internet has a million suggestions about cooking,storing etc.. The directions read "dry cured, soak,cook and serve" I would rather hear from one of you with experience in dealing with them. After cooking can it be stored in vacuum packs or should it be frozen? Appreciate any info you can share. DoubleTap 01/18/2021 at 12:33 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThanks! Bummin' 01/18/2021 at 12:27 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversationaka: there are numerous sources for ebooks that will work on the kindle. Archive org gives you the option of downloading in PDF or kindle format. Libraries also, and there are many more. Vickie 01/18/2021 at 12:15 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationFox News video showing many thousands of Honduran immigrants heading north to you guess where. And so it begins. mountain man 01/18/2021 at 12:05 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationSome charge controllers can be used in pairs like you describe but I don't know about yours. One of the better forums for solar is diysolarforum.com and for youtube videos: diy solar with will prowse. He has a lot of good how to videos and there are a lot of users on that forum that are very knowledgeable. Bummin' 01/18/2021 at 12:02 PM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationI'd remove the bones after cooking the thighs just enough to pull them out and then make bone broth. Bone broth can be made in 45 minutes in a pressure cooker but the best results are to slow cook it for 6-24 hours under a medium to low heat. Start off by covering the bones with water and a cup of white vinegar at room temperature for an hour. After slow-cooked for hours the bones can be crumbled in your hand, if not, keep cooking with the lid on. When bones are soft, remove lid and heat it up to boil off excess broth. An ideal result is one quart from the 2.5 quarts of water needed to cover the bones. Like DaMedinNY says, a little salt, no seasoning. Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 11:10 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationAka, i know,,, it WAS mine too, i downloaded the Nook app from Barnes and Nobel and am just getting books from them now, cancelled everything i had with Amazon, wont support them ever again, rather pay more. The thing i really am pissed off about the books i bought from Amazon is the format is not compatible with other readers, guess that taught me a lesson though, DONT BUY DIGITAL BOOKS IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT THE CONTENT! I wont make that mistake again i assure you. DoubleTap 01/18/2021 at 10:32 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationAnother electrical question. Is it possible to tap into the lines of the well pump and the Septic pump and add in an outlet to connec up to a battery bank or a generator if grid power can't be used? kind of link an available shut with a cutoff switch so as to not backfeed the house. DoubleTap 01/18/2021 at 10:25 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationMeant 800 Watts total DoubleTap 01/18/2021 at 10:22 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationSo here's a question regarding my earlier post on Panels, and Batteries. The Kit I was looking at had a 40A MPTT charge controller.I believe the 400watts of panels would max that out at 12V. Could I get another idetincal kit with 400 W's of panels and the same 40A Controller and plug it into the same battery bank? Basically have 600W's of panels connting to (2) 40A charge controllers, connected into the same battery bank, that would in turn feed a 3000W PSW inverter.Think I would rather build one bigger 400AH total bank to start off with. Thought? Thanks in advance!! aka 01/18/2021 at 10:20 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThe only subscription that I have of concern is from amazon - kindle unlimited. Hate to give them money but it is my main form of entertainment : ( Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 10:06 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationGood morning folks,, its a rainy chilly morning in the islands today. What to do if the interweb gets shut down? Yall got a radio? Any ideas on getting info? it can and may happen, our enemy, read the bureaucrats in DC, dont like us Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 9:52 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationHmmmm, I was thinking of the nutrients from the bones/marrow etc, might be better to not do that experiment, Maybe though the bones saved and canned by them selves? Wonder if that would be like bone broth? Or if the high temps kill the good as well as the bad,,, Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 9:49 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThe Reverend Martin Luther King,, Truly a great man. 😎 🤙🏻 Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 9:44 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationGood one bummin,,, DAMedinNY 01/18/2021 at 9:43 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationYes the bones soften. Pecora 01/18/2021 at 9:43 AM>> Foods That Don’t Store Well For ‘Long Term’Does anyone know how long a 50 lb bag of livestock cracked corn would last? It would be stored in a galvanized trash can most likely outside. Thanks. DAMedinNY 01/18/2021 at 9:41 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationYes Kula, that is exactly how I do it. Very tasty. But only a touch of salt. I save the seasoning for when I’m actually using it. And you have to be careful cause some herbs like sage can get bitter if you can them Lauren 01/18/2021 at 9:40 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationI don't see why not. The problem might be chicken bones shattering under processing. Or they might soften enough to be eaten. Try it and see, then let us know. Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 9:34 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationHomesteader, i felt that long ago, too many signs leading to the same outcome, now it will accelerate, i may not have a gulch full o industrialist but i am done Kulafarmer 01/18/2021 at 9:26 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationIve been curious about canning whole thighs. i have seen whole chickens in a can so wouldnt you be able to stuff thighs in a mason jar fill it with salt water and seasonings and can it? DJ5280 01/18/2021 at 9:18 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationLauren, yep. That is exactly who BG is. Well said. NH Michael 01/18/2021 at 9:09 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationMonday Gallows Humor, BREAKING NEWS, Unnamed sources say that the elite Ghostbusters Team has been deployed to DC in case all those Dead Biden Voters become violent. Sorry I couldn't get the whole meme picture of them at the Lincoln Memorial. Classic. Just think in just 2 more days we can UNITED TOGETHER Say like Scarlett O'Hara say "I'll never go Hungry again". OH WAIT... The Sock will FEED everybody with a few fish and loves? WOW. Correction-edit the Queen will say "Let them eat EBT cards". What's that saying, it's all fun and games until folks start getting hurt. Wait until that EBT card buys NOTHING. THEN the Real Trouble will occur. Grey man is a proverb, Proverbs 27:11 Be wise, my son, and bring joy to my heart, so that I can answer him who taunts me. 12The prudent see danger and take cover; but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. Bummin' 01/18/2021 at 9:00 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationThat doesn't make Chris Christie a good one. grandee 01/18/2021 at 8:22 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic ConversationWhen you can, try wiping the jar rim with vinegar before putting the lid and ring on. I have never had a failure since I've been doing it this way. The vinegar cuts any grease that might cause a loose seal. grandee 01/18/2021 at 8:15 AM>> Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation"Does canning thigh meat turn out ok?" It sure does !! Just did 7qts myself. They are great for any recipe that includes chicken. Even found a jar lurking in the back of stash I missed from 2015. Yes, we ate it and it was good. Prob a little less nutrition, but as I said, the taste was fine. Although I don't like to leave home-canned meat that long, this one slipped past me.