Prepared For A Time Worse Than The Great Depression?

If there is to be another Great Depression (1930’s), you might call it the Greater Depression, because it will have far worse consequences for more people than ever before. In all likelihood, “worse” is putting it quite mildly…

Current Events – And The Dollar Reserve Currency At Risk

Today’s current events. You’re living through it. You know the mess we’re in. Or at least those of you know – who at least scrape the surface a little bit. There’s a global elite hurling us towards their Great Reset. They need the US at heel, in order to get this done. This lone experiment in world history, the US of A and all it once stood for, must, be, crushed. Upon adequate destruction, the resulting desperate masses will clamor to whatever ‘morsels’ and aid that their new masters may hand out – in exchange for their freedom, liberty, and independence. A new global slave class. But I digress…

First, all of the following is bad for the US Dollar…

Covid economic destruction (that didn’t have to be as such). Runaway inflation brought on by massive, and I mean massive government spending so far beyond its means – that it’s insanely ridiculous. Rumors of WWIII. Weak limp dementia’d leadership whose globalist puppet masters are hell bent on speeding the reset. USA seen as vulnerable around the world. Russia sanctions forcing them into the arms of China with currency, energy, and trade deals. Developing their own equivalent SWIFT (Interbank Financial Telecommunication System) outside of US/NATO/WesternBank/IMF influence. And perhaps even scarier(to the dollar), Saudi Arabia is considering to sell oil outside the dollar. And these are just a few of the many escalating crisis for the rapidly devaluing dollar.

If and when the dollar is no longer the world’s reserve currency (and it could happen overnight), we in America will be hurled into the Greater Depression… Say bye bye to the value of your 401K or IRA. Any savings that you might have. Your pension. Social Security. All massively devalued. The financial pain will be excruciating. But don’t worry, they will have a digital crypto currency awaiting your enslavement…

The Great Depression Back Then Versus Modern Dependencies

The Great Depression that took place during the 1930’s was a severe worldwide economic depression, the timing of which varied across nations. However, in most countries it started in 1929 and lasted until the late 1930’s. It was the longest, deepest, and most widespread depression of the 20th century.

If (when) the next Greater Depression hits us smack in the face, will you be prepared to survive a minimum of 5-10 years, relatively on your own, without .gov assistance? That sounds pretty darn scary to me… Hardly anyone these days could do that.

Farms, Smaller Communities, Self Reliance, Morals, Versus Today’s Society

During the time of the Great Depression, many families lived on farms of varying sizes and functionality. Today, the vast, vast majority of people live in urban and suburban areas, and most have not ever been to a farm. The extent of their knowledge of farms is the extent at which they may have seen pictures of them.

During the 1930’s, many or most people knew how to take care of their basic needs on their own. Many or most people knew how to grow a successful garden. Most people were familiar with the physically laborious way-of-life during that time when luxuries were few and hard work was the normal reality. People (in general) were not as ‘soft’.

During the 1930’s, many or most people had a sense of morality and decency that pales in comparison to today. That morality certainly curtailed what could have been much worse with regards to societal problems during that time.

The American culture was vastly more independent and self-sustaining than today (putting it mildly). Whereas the modern way-of-life has become extraordinarily dependent on other functioning systems.

Government during that time was still relatively small and non-intrusive (wow, imagine that!). Whereas today’s government is intermingled with big business and most everything that we do, debilitating individualism and regulatory to the extent of crippling.

A ‘government class’ has exploded into a gargantuan chunk of our society – creating dependence rather than independence. A Greater Depression during today’s modern times would become particularly devastating to all those who ‘depend’.

During the time of the Great Depression, the world was severely affected. Today, even more, most of the world’s nations will be affected – as they are financially and economically hinged with systemic risks in ways that were not even dreamed of back then.

How Much Worse It Would Be Today – A Greater Depression

I cannot help but contemplate how much worse it would be today than it was back then in the 1930’s. Especially knowing (reading about) how bad it actually was during that time. We tend to think and believe that no such thing could ever happen again. Especially given today’s safety nets and the seemingly endless crops of dollars continually harvested from the unseen fields of money trees. We are so far removed from the hardships of yesteryear that these thoughts never enter the minds of most. However, it may be wise to at least ponder the thought…

History may or may not repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes…

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  1. Probably not prepared. I do the best I can, because, I’m the only “nut” in the family. After you try warning them for years, they chose to stay in their normalcy bias. I lost that a long time ago. I miss it. lol

    I have a question though. Would under the basement stairway be a good place to prep for a fallout? It’s mostly enclosed with no windows. Thank you for all of the wonderful help here. I so much appreciate it.

  2. The greatER depression, sounds about right. We all have lived in a time of no war, that’s not quite true. No war that truly threatened the homeland. Yes, many lost sons and daughters and many of those who came home, wounded, injured, never to be the same. Iraq, Afgan, viet nam, not to mention all the other incursions into 3rd world countries. Thank you to our Veterans.

    I/we have never experienced he horrors of WWII. The uncertainty of whether we would win. As I understand it, there was real doubt. That’s a level of discomfort most of us have never experienced. We’ve always been safe and secure within our great country. Until recently, always plenty of food at the grocery store. Seemingly an endless supply. “I don’t like that brand, get the other one.” Those days may be gone. We all see it, the increase in prices for limited supplies. I think it’ll get much worse before it gets better. All we can do is try to be prepared. I hope I’m up for the coming challenges.

  3. “We tend to think and believe that no such thing could ever happen again.”

    Think of how many things have happened in the last two years which we thought could NEVER happen!

    …Take it from there… Prepare, folks… Prepare

      1. OK; yeah. I ran into him some time ago here in cyberspace. …We complimented each other on our choice of monikers! ‘Hope he’s feeling better.

  4. The Great Depression also largely coincided with the Dust Bowl years. Our Dust Bowl-equivalent is the Modern GSM. Think I’ll go shopping while I still can.

  5. I’d like to comment on the gardening aspect here. With the onset of the Grand Solar Minimum the weather conditions are going through extreme changes and will continue. I don’t think it’s enough to plan on just gardening more, or even using just heirloom seeds and seed saving although these are very important. I think we need to expand those thoughts to include row covers for plants for extreme temperature changes, even threats of weird frost conditions out of season. Perhaps mini-greenhouses over your garden beds. Warming the soil before planting. What I have found to be the most valuable to us here is a greenhouse. Mine is not big by any means….12’x15′-ish, tho now I regret it is not bigger (and taller). This controlled environment is and will be important for our future, I think. We already grow all of our greens and some veggies through the winter, including greens for the chickens also. I hope to build a larger, much larger, ‘Chinese greenhouse’ next year. Three clear sides and roof, one solid wall behind, and the earth piled up around the back to the roofline and slopes down the two sides. Many books and building plans on Amazon. You can even grow fruit trees in there. Feeding ourselves is going to be much, much, more challenging in the years to come. Think now on how you are going to accomplish it when everything including the wether conditions will be against you. Theft will also be another problem. Thoughts?

    1. DJ5280
      Look at the plans for a—- ‘Walipini’.
      Believe this will be what all of us will require in the future to have the foods we normally would grow.
      I have not read/seen the article where a man is growing citrus trees in one of these in Kansas. Believe it is on a u tube video, which you would be searching for, regarding their success with this endeavor.
      (Do not forget your camel hair paint brush(s) for those plants that require bees when we have zero for pollination)

      1. AC,
        So true. I’ve got a set of plans for a Walipini printed out for future use. BTW, The Russians used to grow citrus fruit trees in trenches in areas with sub-zero winter temperatures. It can be done, and we may well have to do it in the future. Good point on brushes too, although i have noted that in the past couple of years my fruit trees have been pollinated by Hummingbird moths one year, and a host of minor bees and flies in others. I also think we at mid-level temperate climates should be investigating buying seed now used in colder climates, like that now used in the Prairie Provinces.

      2. AC & Minerjim….walipini’s look very possible also. They appear to be even more underground than the Chinese greenhouses. The CG’s fronts are more exposed and the sides not covered outside as deeply either. The Walipini design might be more efficient for what is coming with the GSM. More insulation along all the outer walls. I’m intrigued.

        1. DJ5280,
          Despite what the surface Temps do in the future, I can pretty much guarantee the Temps below ground won’t change much. Given the fantastically efficient LED grow light technology we have now, I predict more abandoned underground mines will be used to produce food. Perfect temperature, light, and humidity control, no way weeds seed and bugs can get in (and easily controlled if they do). Security is also fantastic! All you need is a rack of solar panels on surface and racks of LED grow lights and your set.

    2. DJ5280,
      I have been doing my best to trick Mother Nature with my grow room and lights. I’m trying to get a Jumpstart on plants well before they normally are grown. Alot of experiments going on. From growing vertically to hydroponics to aquaponics.I worry about the rogue cold weather that shows up out of the normal. Have to plan for it…

      1. BJH,
        I’ve been doing the same thing. I started my tomato, pepper, collards, squash, zucchini, cucumber seedlings under grow lights and heating pads back in February (about a month earlier than normal) and they have done well. It has warmed up to the 60’s during the day so have been putting them out for sunlight and brining them in at night (still getting down to the 30’s) to harden them off. I transplanted the collards, broccoli and cauliflower into the garden earlier this week and if there is a chance of a frost I can cover them up. I want to get as much food growing and canned as possible this year and I am planning on growing a late Summer into Fall garden.

        Ammo, Food and Water…..currency of the new millennium.

        1. Romeo Charlie, I totally agree. It’s one thing to just grow a couple tomato plants and cucumbers for fun. It’s quite another to have 1500 plants going at once with the plan to can,freeze the extra. It is alot of work and it’s time consuming. I spend about 3 hours a day and also have help from a couple grandkids. A whole lot of people are in for a rude awakening…

          1. BJH,
            Hard work never hurt anyone and having the grandkids to help means you are giving them an education that is priceless and can’t be found in schools. We did n’t have kids so it’s just me an my better half but you learn to make do with what you have. It is such a rewarding and comforting feeling about opening a mason jar with something you planted, grew, harvested and canned that makes it taste so much better and I hope you have a bountiful harvest this year.

      2. BJH, glad to hear you’ve started early and trying all sorts of things. I think we all should be trying to get as much growing as we can this year. I just hope the weather cooperates for us all and the pests aren’t too bad this year either.

  6. During the 1930’s the vast majority of America was self-reliant, rural and a lot of city dwellers had gardens, livestock and knew how to make a meal with few ingredients. Today the vast majority are dependent on someone else to provide for them, they live in urban and suburban areas where lawns and mulch are the norm, rely on food delivery services and zoning restrictions prohibit livestock and gardens.

    The coming depression will devastate the suburbs more than anywhere as the American dream will become a nightmare. Most inner city areas are already war zones and are dependent on government welfare and food stamps which will not be cut off for fear of riots so a recession will only have a moderate impact. The rural areas have the means, ability and will continue to take care of themselves and though times will be hard their chance of survival is highest.

    However suburban America will be the battle ground as they are dependent on JIT grocery stores delivery, city utilities and are crammed together with little if any defensive measures to protect them from the roaming gangs from the cities. Where most urban areas are liberal and most rural areas are conservative, the suburbs are a hodgepodge of different ideologies, races, ethnicities, religions and it will pit neighbor against neighbor as there will be no middle ground. The suburbanites will want to flee to the country but when they do they will find they are not welcome, will be turned away with force if necessary and their fate is sealed. Hard times are coming.

    1. Most of the people living in the rural community’s are not as “self ready either” a lot of them don’t even stock deep for food.

      The on demand crowd really has shown that people don’t plan for anything and rarely think they would need it.

  7. Knowing that this site does not trade in “fear Porn”, while reading this article I felt as if I was gut punched. Should all of the signs come to pass, I am afraid that we will see the last days of America.

    In God We Trust, always and forever!

  8. Interesting information from Michael Snyder that relates to the coming depression.

    Since making an agreement with the Nixon administration in 1974 the Saudis have traded oil exclusively for U.S. dollars.
    Today approximately 80% of all oil produced in the entire world is traded for dollars,and the “Petrodollar” has become one of the fundamental pillars of the current global financial system.Far more dollars are actually used outside of the U.S. than
    inside the U.S.

    Up until now there has been an insatiable demand for U.S. dollars all over the planet.All of that is about to change.

    Saudi Arabia is actively engaging in negotiations with Chinese officials to price oil sales to China in Yuan instead of the U.S.
    dollar.

    China being the worlds biggest importer of crude oil is offering everything you could possibly imagine to Saudi Arabia.

    Currency is the number one thing that the U.S. exports,and if the rest of the world decides it doesn’t need or want our currency
    everything will change.

    If you think inflation is bad now………

    1. Spot on commentary, Chuck. The Petrodollar has propped up this country for decades. The rent is coming due and the account is severely overdrawn. How many trillions of dollars now??

      Another thing the media won’t talk about is the fact that Russia has spent the last several years building up their gold reserves. They are carrying 2230 tons of gold in their reserves. Jan of this year was the first time in a long time they carried more gold in reserve than US dollars. Putin has been preparing for this since 2010. A quick search can show numerous articles speculating why Russia was putting some much gold in their reserves. Our “political elite” pulled their heads from their rectums long enough to realize Russia is in a much better financial position than the media including Fox will admit. So our mental giants are attempting to freeze their reserves. The problem is countries like China, India, and Brazil won’t let that happen. Why? Because they don’t want the US to do that same tactic to them in the future as they ALL have been dramatically yet quietly increasing their gold reserves.

      So it’s not handwritting on the wall, its a great big flashing neon billboard. Tough times are ahead. NATO alliances are the only chance the US has left to control the world economy. This is why the “new world order” is being talked about openly now?? NATO will demand a lot of control over the US and policy. Sadly, the greed of our politicians and corporations did this to us while so many went along willing. Too many didn’t care their neighbor lost his/her job as long as my 401k keeps popping 23%.

  9. Drove my wife the 100+ miles to see her pain management doctor. Our conversation during the trip, ironically, matches well with Ken’s article.

    Like some others here, we are on a fixed income. We talked of how we would have to make some decisions in the near future on what services we would keep and the ones we can do without…satellite tv…tv subscriptions…will we be able to continue homeowner’s insurance, full coverage on our cars, etc.

    We passed several hamburger joints…one of our treats when we make this trip…but, in the past year, prices have climbed to the ridiculous…so we drove on. Stopping at Wally World to pick up several more cases of canned goods instead.

    We spoke of how other folks were having to make these same hard choices between what is a necessity and what is a want….and the snowball effect of businesses losing customers and employees losing their jobs because their services are no longer affordable.

    And we spoke of how we ain’t seen nothing yet……….

    1. Dennis reading your post….that is spot on by the way, reminds me of my parents who went through the ten years of the ‘Great Depression’ I myself have never know hunger of any great length, and still reminded of moms favorite saying “eat for the hunger that is coming”. I have prepared and prepped for 4 decades and still as like minded as when I started… my saying would be “keep the faith and pass the potatoes”.

  10. My 2¢ worth on the coming (already here) Depression.
    We have already been in a sense of Depression for the last several years, Look at the cost of building materials, the Housing Markets, Fuel, Food (yes it’s been going up steadily for years), how about the National Debt, Taxes, shall I go on?Sooner or later the bubble will burst.
    Also look at the numbers of “Give-Me-Dats” on the Government Tit, aka the tax dollar the working people pay.
    Hyperinflation is almost at hand, we now are at the highest in 40 years, Fuel is highest in 10 years or more, the Feds are starting to raise interest rates (7 times this year are predicted).
    We WILL lost the world monetary hold.
    OK, what happens when in the 1930’s 80% of the people lived in the country, and could self–sustain, now 80% or more live in those cities, It took a HUNG crash in the economy to cause the Great Depression, yet people could still feed and shelter themselves for the most part.
    My parents lived through the Great Depression, and would tell me stories of what it took as a country to survive.
    Guess what will happen now….. Sorry to say most people have zero morals now, you think “they” would not destroy what you have so they could have your “Stuff”?
    Do you honestly believe the Gov will not take what you have? Yeah Yeah I know all the macho people out there are saying “Over my dead body” you think the Gov would care one single bit? Or how about that Father of 4 that are starving?
    Finally, what got us out of the Great Depression? Can you say WWII?
    History WILL repeat itself, especially since the country has forgotten the past and lives for their I-phone and Video crapo.
    Y-all have a wonderful day, for it truly is a Beautiful day here on Lightning Point

    1. NRP and Blue, very spot on. My grandfather told me as a child they had no idea there was a Great Depression; they were poor farmers in southeast Texas. They suffered because their crops could not be sold anywhere but very locally anymore. There was no food shortages, only the inability to pay for food. Some people would work out deals so they could trade for food. Many a crop went to ruin because nobody could buy it from the farmers. They didn’t starve because they could grow their own, but they didn’t get ahead any either. No money meant no new clothes or shoes for a while. A government truck would come by on occasion and drop off some items to the family. My Uncle thought WW2 was the greatest thing that ever happened to him. He lived on base and learned to be a diesel mechanic. He got free food and a bunk and sent most of his money back home to the family. That’s how they made it out of the 40s. Parts of my family still farm that land.

  11. There is nothing in the history of man that will rhyme with what is about to come upon us. There has never been a time like it…nor ever again. Read Isaiah 13: 13. Isn’t it interesting that the things man can not control are ratcheting up at the same time satan’s minions are making their move. God’s plan is in motion. They know it…..Do you? You ready?

    1. As times get tougher, theft becomes more rampant.
      I had a brain phart, a couple weeks ago, as gas prices climbed. Fill up, take care of later.
      Gasoline, diesel cans, propane tanks left out in the open, but in back of the house.
      Yeah, I went out late, on a Sunday night, grabbed everything and locked them all up.

      Store and lock up EVERYTHING.

      1. Joe C, The other day was awakened early in the morning by truck lights shining in my bedroom window. I had parked the car out of sight that night for no particular reason. Probably looked like no one was home. Anyway by the time I got the lights on and the door open they we’re hightailing it down the road. Looks like they were trying to steal a long livestock gate. Those things have gotten expensive. Probably didn’t know there were pigs behind that gate who were always excited for human company. When I got out later in the morning the girls were sniffing around the gate lying in their pen. Figure the girls scared them away and they turned on their lights out of habit.

      2. Joe c, Anony Mee,

        When we went to town today, I noticed an unusual item on the land of a part time neighbor. He has a rugged 50 or so acre piece of mostly open land adjoining one of my wooded patches. He has three travel trailers situated on his land belonging to family.

        What I noticed was a tower, maybe 20 foot tall with what I first thought were six white orb shaped lights shaped like rounded footballs, and about that size, in a circle at the top. When I got closer, it looked as if each white plastic orb had a camera lense directed outward to cover 360 degrees. It was about a hundred or so feet off the road.

        I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure it’s security cameras. I’ve met the man and believe he would have contacted me if he has suffered any thieving. Pre-emptive I guess.

    2. SoulSurvival- are you a Calvinist? Yes, God has a plan, a big plan for this world, and a small plan for His Elect.

      1. Pitchfork – What was Jesus….a calvinist or arminian? I follow Jesus and what He says. As far as the interpretation of what He says, I rely on the Holy Spirit for understanding…..not man’s flawed understanding, ideas, and classifications. If it rings true in my heart, then that’s what I go with until He shows me different. It all boils down to how much I love Jesus and the condition of my heart. Can I finish my race with a pure heart? That is the only question that concerns me. The things I have yet to learn, He will teach me…..but until then, I rely on my child-like faith and love for Him. So….what am I ? I am nothing but what He says I am. And that is all that matters.

        1. He was a Jew that obeyed Torah laws and followed the feasts ….

          Christians should also follow Torah and not be celebrating Pagan holidays like easter and xmas.

          1. Raven tactical Prepper expert – You are correct on all points. Evidence would suggest that Jesus was born on Nisan 1 of which falls on April 2 this year. Sad how some Christians even train their kids up to observe satan’s day….halloween. “We” say we know and love Him……but actually know little of Him and don’t care enough to find out. How does one think the relationship would work out if you didn’t know your wife or girlfriend’s birthday after say 3 years? And then tell her…..Well, it really doesn’t matter….I love you. Yeah…..right. In my observations, most christians are not looking to escape sin…..but the penalty of their sin. Question…..Does one’s church (Pastor) observe the pagan holiday of christmas? The blind following the blind…..right into the ditch.

  12. Read an article on ZH that tells of a disastrous winter wheat harvest due to the ongoing drought in the midwest and west. The article was predicting a possible dust bowl scenario which would play right into the conditions of the Great Depression. When the average American considers a day without their cellphone or internet a disaster there is no way they can’t conceive must less prepare for the nightmare heading their way.

  13. This is concerning. My dad had a stroke and I now handle his affairs. If his retirement funds tank (and believe me, they’ve taken a hit in recent months) I don’t know what he will do.

    I also have a POS SIL who is completely dependent on the government and her family. We don’t give her assistance, but other family members enable her. If it were solely up to me, I’d gladly drop her off at a homeless shelter or give her her choice of bridges to live under. But my husband won’t allow that so we’ll be stuck taking care of her.

    So I’m just doing my best to prepare. Grow the garden, expand the garden, raise chickens. Keep calm and prep on.

  14. How do those acronyms go—JOMO—‘just one man’s opinion’, or is it, IMHO—‘in my humble opinion’…IT (the ‘Petro-Dollar’), and the end of it probably will happen overnight…the same as the fall of the Soviet Union—One day it was, the next morning it wasn’t.
    No offense to the younger crowd but those of us that a bit older remember, that’s exactly what happened; one night we went to sleep, the next morning we woke up to headlines screaming, The Soviet Union Fallen!…

    What I have always thought odd, is that, in the scripture, there is, however you interpret it, either no reference to, or only a vague reference to, The United States, which has been or may have be the biggest spreader of the gospel since the apostles in history… Don’t know, don’t get it.

    for those that remember. You may very well be spot-on Ken.

  15. I had grandparents who were young, newly married at the time. Spent a lot of time with them- learning and listening. One set on the farm. One in town. Both gardened almost to the end of life. My grandmother in town stayed outside when the laundry was drying because of theft otherwise. I also read about the time. As generations of family were separated, young mothers in the camps in California had to be taught to sew, etc. In some communities, families taking welfare had their names published in the newspaper. No welfare fraud but I hope it also the opportunity to help directly those that need it. I have absorbed and used what they taught me. If we get out of this metro area in time, I believe we’ll be able to make it through.

  16. people will learn how to repurpose things as opposed to throwing things away and buying new.
    you know your a prepper when you take a load of trash to the dump and come back with more than you left with.
    you would not imagine how much lumber there is to find at a landfill. contractors don’t save it on demo’s, they throw it away by the trailer load. those large blue garbage containers in new jobsites are gold mines and they are glad for you to get it, just ask first and leave the area cleaner than when you got there.
    watch for nails : )
    good luck and watch where you step.

  17. Yep… the administration in place right now seems hell-bent on doing everything possible to make our nation go down the tube. It’s so painful to watch what is happening, and know that no amount of phone calls, letter writing, marching with signs, or screaming at the sky is going to stop what is being done to us, our economy and our nation.

    Events are coming more quickly now. It’s hard to know which piece of news, or which event will be the catalyst. In the meantime, we slip into stagflation (I found the lowest price for gas around today at $5.59 for regular). Groceries, utilities, gas, and on and on. I’m just so grateful to no longer be a small business owner, and to have no debt. Times are getting tough, but I’m thinking it gets a whole lot worse from here. And if this administration succeeds in taking down the dollar, our lives are going to get a whole lot tougher.

    I’m very grateful I found my way to MSB (its been something like 7 years ago now). And when I look at where I was then (just starting to stock non perishables) and to where I am now – at least I can say that a series of good decisions give my family a fighting chance against what is almost surely coming our way. I guess that’s the best any of us can ask for – a fighting chance.

  18. I would gladly live amongst almost all of you in the most trying of times, you would know and understand the reality of our predicament.
    I am glad that i live on a small island though and in a community that has many farms and ranches of all sorts of sizes and many people who still remember the ways and days of old, its going to be interesting.

    1. The more that is happening, the less prepared I think I am. Yes, we have prepped with LT food storage, alternate heat, water, etc. If left to ourselves and like-minded people, I think we’d be okay. It’s the increase in lawlessness that has me concerned. After our hit and run accident on Thanksgiving night, a similar event happened to a church family. Then, a few days ago, a close friend who walked me through the whole insurance mess was hit by a woman fleeing an incident where she’d hit someone else first. Then she hit my friend, backed up, and hit her again. Then fled the scene. Idk if she’s been caught.

      Our community has an increasing number of homeless, drug addicted and mentally ill people. This is happening at the same time when developers have descended into our area to build numerous apartment buildings and housing developments for all the Seattle residents who are fleeing their overpriced crime ridden area. I’ve lived in this county all my life and, for the first time, I don’t feel safe when I go out into our community. Will someone steal my car when I’m in the grocery store? Will someone drill a hole in my gas tank and steal my gas? Am I going to get hit again? I feel safest on our acreage, but it’s no longer far enough away from those who wouldn’t think twice about taking what isn’t theirs by any means possible.

  19. If we still had the morals and character possessed by our grandparents, then I would think we could survive this because we’d all be in it together. I’d be glad to make a big pot of soup to share, or exchange sandwiches for some work on our property. God would multiply our loaves and fishes for those in need. But, how do we know who we can safely help or who would take what we have by force? This is my moral dilemma. 😔

  20. Ken, you are fear mongering again. I believe if there is a Depression II it will not be as bad.
    Why because we are prepared and the “Government” will bail us out. You forgot that our Fed will keep the printing presses going full steam ahead.
    Stop it!

    1. Haha… I’ll look forward to my government cheese, and I will be happy about it 🧀😎

      1. Government cheese is not that bad…and yes you will be happy–it’s free.
        He that is prepared shall not fear.

  21. Decency and morality….If we use the homicide rate as a proxy for that…

    The HR peaked in 1932 at just under 10 per 100K population

    There was a long slide that bottomed at about 5 per 100K in the mid 1950s

    Ramped up to almost 11 in 1980 and bounced around at that high rate (between 9 and 10) for 10 years or so

    The rate started dropping to a low of about 6 in the early 2000s

    It jumped from about 6 to 7.8 in 2020 – a huge one year jump.

    So we are still about 20% better than the early 1930s

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      1. So…have the good things you mentioned advanced that much in just the past 30 years ? We seem to be a good 20% below the 1990s too…

        I like your idea that that the difference between now and 90 years ago could turn on those items.

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        1. again …. medical advancements and cell phones make for quicker reaction times.

    1. Idk about the stats, but what I do have are anecdotal stories. An older friend who was a kid during the depression relayed his family story. His dad had a good job with the railroad. The family was moving from the Midwest to California for a job promotion. They sold their property, put the money in the bank, and his dad planned to buy a house once they got to California. You guessed it. Stock market crash. Banks closed. He lost all that money. He still had his job. They found a small house to rent close to the railroad depot. They found themselves in the heart of those in need. Hundreds of men would ride the rails, wandering from place to place, looking for work in exchange for food, something, anything. This family had someone knocking on their door everyday. They’d spare a sandwich or soup. They’d stretch what they had. Hobos would mark the homes that would try to help them, so the next needy ones would know where to stop.

      I really don’t think people today would be satisfied with a sandwich or trade labor for food or a place to stay in a shed. They seem much more willing to take by force, making it more difficult for a family to try to help others in distress. Sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story.

      1. Your mention of sandwiches for the hungry made me remember a recipe from a cookbook focused on the depression era. There were a lot of people in the northwest along the ports looking for work. Someone made “fish” sandwiches to sell for a nickel. The recipe for 100 sandwiches had a filling made with 1 can of fish, cod liver oil, and bread crumbs. Now that’s stretching your protein.

  22. During the 30’s most of the rural population either lived on farms or traded with farms for supplies. Now in our area there are very few small farmers, most are very large family owned that employ few people. They can’t produce without major inputs from outside the area, seed, fertilizer, water. Very seldom will you find a chicken or pig on these operations. The hogs that are raised in confinement operations won’t survive outside of their sterile environment. Gardens are few and far between. People think they will head out to rural areas and have plenty to eat but it’s just not there.

  23. Bad China harvest, China & Russia suspending fertilizer exports, reduced crops this year from Ukraine – “the breadbasket of the region”, shipping and fuel issues, severe drought in the Horn of Africa…
    Not looking too good right now for many people.

    1. But Bud…look at the bright side…ain’t seen or read a single report of anyone dying from covid in close to a month…it’s like a miracle…

      1. And those high gas prices… with less driving, the air is so much cleaner, and the traffic undeniably safer! In fact, we should be thankful.

          1. Not so. The electric truck that I built 16 years ago when my youngest was 2, he now wants to drive it to school because he cannot afford the gas for the 6 mile round trip every day. Just took him out for a shakedown run in it today. It’ll cost him $148 in gas if he drives his Jeep for the next month. It’ll only cost him (me) $28 in electricity if he charges the Mitsu every day for the next month. Thats big $$ for an 18 year old still in school. I spend $30/mo in the winter just keeping the block heater running for 3 hours in the mornings on my diesel, just to spend the $5/gal to drive it around town. Jeez, I may start driving the Mitsu instead of him. Or get my electric Pinto out of the garage and start driving that. Google it. ;-)

          2. Prepared
            What I mean is the masses of people speeding around. Accelerating quickly. Even revving their engine at a stop light, etc.
            We had/still have extremely rough roads this winter. Forget about gasoline… You think people will slow down enough to even save their suspension-ball joints? Not a chance!

  24. Read an article over at “Knuckle Draggin My Life Away” that was mesmerizing…and goes a long way to explain the grit of those who went through the Great Depression…without ever even mentioning the depression…the article is entitled “The Abernathy Boys Go for a Ride”…..

    Do yourselves a favor and read it…it goes a long ways in enlightening the reader as to the differences in the lives people led, the mental and physical toughness they possessed.

    1. Dennis,
      i read it this morning, it was a great article.
      they don’t make people like they use to.

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