Best Geiger Counter For Preppers – Radiation Detector Choices
A Geiger counter / Radiation detector. Preppers are concerned about the possibility of nuclear radiation and contamination.
We are living in dangerous times. Many nation states have nuclear capabilities. We as preppers recognize and do our best to mitigate risks for our survival. Some risks are small, and more likely. Others are very big, though less likely.
With that said, one might consider the threat and potential reality of a nuclear detonation event (or worse). Nuclear proliferation among “enemy states”. It’s real. One never knows…
We also live in a world partially energized by nuclear power plants. Though historically very safe, accidents do happen. Also, many or most of these nuclear reactors are beyond their planned lifespan. There is risk. A grid-down disaster would put nuclear power plants at risk.
Should the unthinkable happen it will be advantageous to have a nuclear radiation detector (Geiger counter). Why? Because radiation is invisible. A radiation detector enables you to “see” whether or not you’re in danger.
I thought I would list several radiation detectors for those who might be interested. I have spent some time researching. I’ve settled upon the following list for your potential interest.
Features vary to an extent and you can dig into that for yourselves. When it comes to price, I have found that the detector itself (the part that actually collects / detects the radiation) makes a pretty big difference in performance (and price). It has to do with sensitivity, accuracy, measurement speed. Though even the lesser expensive units are still adequate to alert you of radiation.
GMC-300E Plus Radiation Detector
>> GMC-300E-Plus
(view on amzn)
UPDATE: >> New Model with Dosimeter
One economical nuclear radiation detector is the GMC-300E-Plus. It’s made by GQ Electronics LLC in Seattle, Washington.
– Detect and Measure β (Beta), γ (Gamma) and X-ray Radiation
– CPM, µSv/h, mRem/h
– data port
– mini USB port
– PC software
They also host a live real time radiation map from users who are submitting radiation data from around the world:
Real Time Radiation Map
RADEX RD 1503+ Radiation Detector
>> RADEX RD1503+ with Dosimeter
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A good nuclear radiation detector for under $200. The RADEX RD1503+ made by Quarta-Rad, is manufactured in Russia and distributed worldwide including the U.S. through their U.S. facility.
– Detect and Measure β (Beta), γ (Gamma) and X-ray Radiation
– µSv/h, µRem/h
– Detection range: 0.05~9.99 µSv/h
– Unique Accumulative Dosage (dosimeter) in addition to real time
– Multi-threshold audio alarm with range from 0.10 to 0.90 µSv/h
Quarta-Red also has a live worldwide real time radiation map:
Radiation Map from QuartaRad
RADEX 1212 Radiation Detector
>> RADEX RD1212
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Another radiation detector / Geiger counter from Quarta-Rad. The RADEX RD1212. It costs a bit more than the previously mentioned model. However it also includes a USB PC connection and online software.
– Detect and Measure β (Beta), γ (Gamma) and X-ray Radiation
– µSv/h
– Detection range: 0.05~999.0 µSv/h
– PC connection
– Fast measurement cycle: only 10 sec.
– Audible Alarm
Mazur PRM-7000 Radiation Detector
Mazur Instruments PRM-7000
(view on amzn)
The company is based in Castle Rock, Colorado. Their radiation detectors are manufactured and Made in the USA. The company has a high reputation in this industry for their quality products.
The PRM-7000 radiation detector is part of their lineup (7000, 8000, 9000) and is more affordable than the rest.
– Detect and Measure β (Beta), γ (Gamma) and X-ray Radiation
– uR/hr, mR/hr, uSv/hr, CPS or CPM
– Detection range: 0.001 to 500 mR/hr (0.01 to 5,000 uSv/hr)
– Monitors Elapsed Time, Average, Minimum and Maximum Dose Rate
– Genuine detector tube, made in the US, by LND
– Audible Alert
– Data upload to PC
GCA-06W (Images SI Inc.) Radiation Detector
>> GCA-06W
(view on amzn)
Images SI Inc. (Images Scientific Instruments) began making their radiation detectors in Staten Island, NY during 1982.
Their digital Geiger counters are NRC ready to be “NRC Certified” — meaning they are accurate enough to obtain certification.
– Detect and Measure α Alpha, β (Beta), γ (Gamma) and X-ray Radiation
– mR/hr, uSv/hr, mSv/hr, CPM, CPS
– Detection range: 0.001 mR/hr resolution / 1000 mR/hr; 0.01 uSv/hr resolution – 10 mSv/hr
– Each radioactive particle detected produces an audible click
– Graphing software available
– Data output, headphones output
Mazur Instruments PRM-9000 Radiation Detector
While expensive compared to lesser models, the Mazur PRM-9000 is one of the best Geiger Counter Radiation Detectors available.
– Detect and Measure α Alpha, β (Beta), γ (Gamma) and X-ray Radiation
– uR/hr, mR/hr, uSv/hr, CPS or CPM
– Detection range: 0.001 to 125 mR/hr (0.01 to 1,250 uSv/hr)
– Monitors Elapsed Time, Average, Minimum and Maximum Dose Rate
– Each radioactive particle detected produces an audible click
– two-inch (50.8 mm) pancake Geiger detector tube – the ‘gold-standard’
– fast response time
– suitable for regulatory inspections
– LED, beeper and headphone jack
– internal data logging
– timed measurements
– dose rate alarm
– detects Naturally Occurring Radioactive Materials (NORM)
– Battery life 2 years (9v alkaline) 4 years (9v lithium)
– measurements can be uploaded to a PC in CSV format for analysis
– PC/Mac USB data exchange
Radiation Dose Monitor (for wallet)
RAD Triage 50 Personal Radiation Dose Monitor for wallet or pocket
(view on amzn)
[ Read: Geiger Counter Numbers, How Bad is Bad? ]
For prepping use, a unit that can measure alpha radiation is not really that important as alpha emissions are generally stopped by just a few sheets of paper. So unless your running around outside in you underwear, alpha emission is really a non-issue.
Alpha radiation basically hitches a ride with dust particles, etc.. If you can keep the dust out of the house (seal it) then you’re fairly safe until such time that it’s safe to go outside.
Agreed that Alpha is weakest of the radiation hazards BUT breathing them or ingesting (eating contaminated food) them will be bad for human or animal lungs/bowels.
I would like to know if my animals food is contaminated by Alpha.
NH Michael
alpha particles are the most ionising (damaging to tissue) but the least penetrative (can barely penetrate an inch of air), and gamma rays the least damaging but most penetrative
Gamma Ray’s the least damaging?? I guess if your looking to leave a whole corpse. gamma is why everybody is locked down in falloutshelters for weeks.
However, if you accidently eat or drink something emitting lots of alpha particles you can die over a period of days or weeks depending on amount. The Russian KGB used polonium and alpha emitter, to kill a defector in England maybe a decade ago by adding it to his tea. I dont remember the name or date .
As one who has been contaminated, you need an Alpha probe. If you ingest them, you will have serious problems.
For external exposure, you’re absolutely correct. But for internal exposure, alpha radiation is very dangerous. A very high alpha radiation dose rate on a carrot isn’t going it hurt you at all holding it in your hand, but if you eat it and that radiation can dose your insides, you’re going to have a bad day.
Jan
From Ken’s article text,
“I’ve ordered the following 5 models from least expensive to most expensive”
Making me think he don’t “trust” any of them, OR he’s going to do some testing, he is an electronics Nerd ya know? hehehehe
NRP, I thought he meant “I arranged”
Ordered can be synonymous for arranged
DaisyK
ahhhhhh you could be correct… HAHAHA
DaisyKs comment is what made me wonder. I feel the same about the arrangement. Not that he actually ordered all of them. Just curious
I better clarify ;)
“I’ve sorted the following 5 models…”
(will change the text now!)
That said, I do have one of them in the list.
Well you would know when you need to start taking your potassium iodide tablets.
hermit us
Interesting statement. I will toss in my 3¢ worth from what I understand.
Wide spread radiation is very easily survivable depending on how close you are to a Nuke.
1. Ground Zero (Blast Zone), well your toast and the Fat Lady has Sung
2. Further away say 10 miles, you’re chances of survival go up proportionally.
3. 50 miles and more, there is zero reason not to survive as long as you have made provisions.
4. If your in the “wind” path of radiation there is absolutely no reason to “give up the ghost”.
Again one needs to prepare for situations, and NO it does not take $10,000 of prepare for radiation fallout, There is a LOT and I do mean a LOT of good info on the net on how to protect yourself.
Even as Jon said “alpha emissions are generally stopped by just a few sheets of paper”, although I would have to change my way of greeting solicitors, as simple as staying indoors will do, just seal up the home air tight for a short time and yar good to go.
Just don’t go playing Slim Pickens, if ya catch my drift.
This is why i have the rad cards and iosat,
Had a discussion with one o the neighbors about what if the norks pop one off, she said that if the government tells us to evacuate we all need to go,,,
I simply said go where? Theres no fallout shelters, we live on an island, where the hell are we going?
She had no answer other than we need to listen to the “authorities”
Yea, sure, ill be right on that
Nailbanger
I Like that, ” we live on an island, where the hell are we going?”
YA just cant fix stupid can ya??
UGH!!!!
Yea,,, she thought that there were fallout shelters,
They abandoned any of the shelters back in the late 70s early 80s, all gone or un useable,
Some people just dont get it, libtard paradise here.
The funny thing is the public shelters for hurricaine etc, are all too small or not sufficient to offer any sort of refuge for any event other than a tropical storm or localized weather event, the governor came right out and said the shelters would not withstand a cat 3 hurricaine even. And they certainly wouldnt be any sort of shelter in the event of a nuke thats for sure, rather be in the basement of my house, much better protection than any public anything, plus then i can occupy my time waiting, loading ammo and doing leather work!
But go to a shelter???
Pffttt HA!
Might as well go out and cover myself with cooking oil
Hey Nailbanger
If you got to go out – you might as well do it on that trimaran you just financed as war is declared. If that is the right term for that boat you wanted.
hermit us and Nailbanger
Nail on a Trimaran, ohhhhh no, there goes another US Destroyer. :-(
I already know where its parked,,,
If it happens, just make sure all the people don’t rush to one side of the island and chance tipping it over. That news from our government.
Run to the top of the volcano and jump in LOL
Yes, good point you two, but some events just push me into an acceptance mode. When people are dying all around, when the garden is contaminated, when the lights go out, when all metal is a potential danger, …. my root cellar/storage area would become a prison in short order. I compare this type of event with a giant asteroid coming at us slowly but an inevitable disaster for all of us – do I run around like crazy, do I do the predicable thing these days – stand there and take pictures of it on my phone???
Sure, I can get an expensive Geiger counter and walk around like a person with a metal detector – do I want to??? For me – one prep too far.
I hear ya,,,
@Nailbanger… unless you have your own shelter, you could try to make your way into an extinct lava tube. Lack of shelters would probably force me into one. Good dense basaltic lava flows should give good protection.
Just my thought.
We have a basement
Lo there do I see my father…
Lol there do I see my mother…
Lol there do I see my brothers and my sisters…
Beckoning me to take my place among them in the halls of Valhalla. ..
For Jon and Nailbanger
Hair coming out in clumps is one of the later symptoms of radiation poisoning. I’m in a fairly good position for a nuclear attack. No targets near me and the prevailing winds are favorable. If the balloon has gone up and my hair is coming out in clumps it will definitely be time to drink the cool-aid.
hermit us
you make a very valid point, and something to think on for everyone.
Where is your personal limit on preparing?
Me I’d love to have that Missile Silo apartment for $5million, but why? As Nailbanger said and I believe a lot of us believe, I’m going to do what I can, but I’m also willing to meet up with Photon at the Rainbow Bridge and talk a walk to see Debbie again.
Ken’s article on Radiation Detection is something I am doing, I’m probably not going to drop $500+ on a piece of equipment (that’s a lot of Gin and TP), but I have and need to replace a Rad Card and my Tabs shortly.
Sorta why i prep, have all the fun stuff and food and tac gear, enough powder etc to start ww4 but also keep horse tranquilizers and flares
Nailbanger
“but also keep horse tranquilizers and flares”
Just shaking my head at that one… HAHAHA
You do know why eh?
Nailbangewr
The Horse Tranq. is for the chillum, the Flare is for burning (cleaning) it our later :-) :-)
Take 6 horse tranqs, swig bottle o jack, kiss the sweety next to me, light flare, toss on pile of clothes and thousands of rolls of tp in the corner, take a long long nap
Hermit, I agree with you!
Off too Valhalla?
I have a card and to prolong it’s use it is sitting in the freezer on the shelf behind the butter until needed. Here, unless they are completely off target, we are in the wind path from Tucson. Hopefully they wouldn’t hit Albuquerque, maybe like everyone else they think we are in Mexico instead of New Mexico.
Huevos Rancheros from Bob Cat Bite in Santa Fe. Umm Umm.
albuquerque, yuck, ick, oh no, take it,
Have you gone to the new Cabalas there? I don’t have to go in until mid Nov. and will check it out. And of course Costco. Wonder if either has radiation detectors.
Another thing with home use for radiation detectors…be carful when you place them in your home as you can get “false” readings. Smoke detectors contain a radioactive element. Some natural granite is radioactive. This is because the crystalline material comprising granite can trap radon gas in its lattice after its natural compression in nature. Check your home with the unit to establish a baseline background radiation count for your home/area.
smoke detectors do contain a radioactive element, americium, a potent Alpha emitter, it cant be detected outside of the case of the smoke detector as alpha cant penetrate plastic, metal etc. alpha is stopped by a sheet of paper.
Ive seen that sort of stuff too, sometimes these people spend so much time and money on ridiculous abatement issues that they cant afford to pay for reasonable stuff like drilling a deeper well or using spray foam insulation rather than batts.
Personally, i doubt a nuke would affect us, if they hit Oahu it will not get anywhere near us, and any fallout would be minimal, thus the rad cards, just for monitoring harmful levels. We would know if there was an attack, and if so the iosat should be sufficient, most likely unnecessary but a good precaution, we dont have nuke power, even though obummer and the old idiot governor abercromby were talking about it as a sensible investment,
So our contamination would be from an attack on military targets on Oahu, and that is quite far away from us and the prevailing winds at all levels are away from us.
Im more concerned about a natural dizaster or war than a nuke. And with natural dizaster being highest on the list.
Jan, They ALL provide adequate radiation level information (in my opinion) for general preparedness in this regard. You start getting into more money with additional features, measurement speed, better accuracy, cumulative dose, better detector…
Just like most anything else, there are cheaper models, in-between models, and expensive models.
Note: I am not suggesting that everyone needs to run out and get a radiation detector. There are lots of other preps that prioritize before this little tool. Some people may live in areas where something like this might be useful whereas others not so much. I just thought I would present a few choices that are evidently somewhat popular among those who do purchase one…
In other words, does more expensive actually mean more sensitive and/or more accurate? How about the best for the least money? What steps prioritize before one of these tools? without a geiger counter how would anyone know?
What about this model? CDV-715 Radiation Survey Meter Geiger Counter. I have two. Are they reliable?
Larry, More information on your Geiger counter can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_defense_Geiger_counters
That said, it’s old technology, not very sensitive, do not read alpha or beta radiation, frequent calibration required…
I’m not knocking it though (although it may sound that way)! The fact that you have something is yet another tool in your tool box.
Larry,
I too have a CDV-715, and the old CD one with two yellow portable tubes you need to calibrate prior to looking through them to take a reading. I bought both off of e Bay years ago since back then I was working next to TMI Nuclear Plant in Royalton, Pa, for my office as a gag along with a old CD fall out shelter sign in my office. My boss though I was goofy, probably am. We were also issued Iodine pills free through the county EMA. Looking out my office front door about a quarter mile away was the cooling towers of TMI. Always made me think. Actually, working there got me developing my first emergency get home bag as reading the local evacuation route plans for a nuke disaster convinced me I probably wouldn’t get home quickly even though I lived around 35 miles North East of the plant. I look at it this way, if a Nuke attack hits or a plant implodes, it is what it is. I’ll be watching wind patterns and I’m hoping to get info from SW or HAM stations broadcasting. I truely now can’t afford to cover any more disaster bases then I’ve already got in place,. If I find I’ve failed well, it’s on me. If I need to bug out I can or bug in down in the basement. If I’m within 10 miles of ground zero I’m toast anyway.
Ken, we have an INSPECTOR radiation alert hand held unit Any thoughts?
For quite a while after Fukishima we were getting very high readings while snow or rain from the pacific northwest. We logged the data, and used the readings to provide extra iodine to our livestock and wildlife as well as wear N95’s and full sleeve, hats and glove cover for outside work. Just precautionary.
Yes the INSPECTOR ALERT (made by International Medcom) is a very good one too! They use a pancake-style Geiger-Mueller tube (very good) similar to that of the Mazur Instruments PRM-9000 (which is slightly bigger tube at 50mm).
Ken… they are made by International Medcom. Mineralab is the seller. THESE ARE TOP FLIGHT UNITS! First responders next town over from where I lived used them. That town has home to an nuclear power plant.
Thank you gentlemen. That is what I wanted to know.
I have the card in my billfold at all times, but please tell more about activated coconut charcoal: like how you get it, take it (dosage, and how it works (purges body?, etc.)
Thanks!
@ Bogan…you can get it from amazon. Dosage varies by type of toxin, amount of toxin, your body size and of course your tolerance to it. Charcoals are very pourous substances. This gives them a very large surface area to “bind to and hold” toxins (or radionuclides in this example). That’s why it’s used in many gas filters and poison control cases. When taken orally, it can’t be digested, but acts as the “binding” agent to prevent the uptake of radionuclides to the bloodstream (very advanced chemistry involved) and allows them to be passed through your system at reduced risk. For maximum effect, try to make sure the charcoal was produced in an oxygen free environment. The oxygen will hamper the “bind and hold” affect as it creates bigger molecules that contain oxygen which stabilizes the charcoal not allowing it to bind. Kind of like lead poisoning, where they give patients chelation therapy. Your body oxidizes the lead making it easier to get into your blood. Patients are sometimes given large doses of calcium and iron for the body to oxidize (which it does faster than lead) to attempt to eat up the free oxygen in the system to slow/prevent the uptake of ingested lead.
I don’t know how many doses of that stuff I’ve poured down overdosed patients. Easiest to explain as millions of little sponges to soak up the bad stuff in the intestines.
I’ve been trying to sell my boat and it looks like I’ve found a buyer. I’m removing stuff off of the boat that I’ll keep. One of the things that came off was activated charcoal. It’s also a frontline treatment for paralytic shellfish poisoning. Which is why we had it on the boat.
@ Pieface…👏👍. good on you for bring the choice between the use or iodine or charcoal to light for others. In short, potassium iodide blocks the thyroid from radioactive iodines (131 & 133 produced in fission/fusion) but don not bind, and charcoals which block and bind a broad spectrum of radionuclides.
Another one to look at is zeolite clay.
Pieface
You may have meant that question as rhetorical… but for those who may not know…
Iodine is considered thyroid protective because it saturates the thyroid in” safe iodine”, protecting the thyroid from uptaking the radioactive idodine. …protecting from thyroid cancer. Having an iodine and an absorbent such as charcoal or zeolite, and possibly Food Grade DE ….among other substances that detox and chealate are crucial.. Knowing the uses, times to use and expected effects/actions are all needed . Info should be placed with every medicinal substance for all possible uses. A quick search/dosing sheet for quick reference should be completed by one knowledgeable.
Each person should have an allergy list written down for the one in charge of your long term medical supplies. True allergies and intolerances with symptoms produced should be written for each person…
ex…family member took a blood pressure med… was irritable continually after the med change, began having headaches. Name brand medication, Dr did not want to change. after two trials of skipped doses and utilizing a substitute, with documentation of b/ps and symptoms…. finally relented, prescribed another med…. and her headaches went away .
Good discussion on the issues.
@ Just Sayin’… red wine as well. Resveratol found in grapes and nuts (to a lesser degree) is also being shown to help against strontium 90.
have a reason to stock up on boxed red wine!
old lady
Ehy would ya need a “reason” to stock up on wine????
Just Thinking
So when your relatives or friends (although not my friends) see all that wine, especially in boxes, you can say you are storing it to rid the radiation in case of a nuclear attack. Since I have had radiation twice for cancer, wonder if that is a reason not to store but to drink more!
I should be all set then…
Oh no, we only drink the white. (doesn’t stain the furniture if spilled)
Used to get Sockeye right our of the river in Cordova. Now with the water patterns from Japan, who knows how radiated they might be. Can you get something to test your food for radiation?
@ old lady…any of the ones Ken has listed should be sensitive enough. Slit it open as you would cleaning it and bring the unit close to the guts (don’t touch it to it). Should see a bump in the reading above normal background radiation. Problem is establishing a baseline level that would be normal for the salmon given all the nuclear material that has ended up in the pacific (both accidental and intentional). ☹️
But ,but, many here say it will not mean the final destruction of the world and our final destination, Valhalla. No, maybe not but it may just be hell on earth for the survivors. Today my glass is half empty. Be safe all.
What was your glass to begin with- full or empty?
Just a little juice of the grape. I too am ready for ragnarok.
Just re-reading another favorite of mine – The Count Of Monte Cristo, where Edmond was without hope and ready to end it all – but miracles do happen in some novels. :)
Thanks for the article Ken. Good to have some type of measuring device in order to know if, when, and to what extent protective measures are required. Just trying to not be a Ziggy walking around with a glowing fallout cloud over my head 😎 Yes those are emoji’s nuclear blast glasses 😁
In addition to the fallout from all the enemies’ bombs, what will the effect be from nuclear plants melting down and all the contamination in the atmosphere from our retaliation as well as Britain, Israel, …… the earth will be ringed with radiation – I think.
0ldhomesteadet
White Cessna red trim…. wheels up or down?
I was thinking more about a melt down when power was no longer available to keep the rods cool but I’m not very knowledgeable about these plants.
Hermit,
The US standard pressurized water reactors (PWR) use a solid, ceramic fuel cooled with water, with a water-moderated fission reaction. In an emergency, the reactor will automatically scram, meaning that the control rods will drop into place, shutting off the neutron-flux and preventing further fission. The heat already in the rods still needs to be dissipated, so diesel generators will be used to maintain water flow until the rods cool; the generators are backed up with 8h of batteries. It is a solid architecture.
That said, the idiots who built the Fukishima Daiichi plant in Japan didn’t listen to the engineers, who told them to put the diesel generators and fuel on an elevated platform. They saved some cash, and lost all their generators to the 30′ tall tsunami that hit the plant 30m after the R9 earthquake. That’s right. The plant took an R9.0 hit, scrammed perfectly, and they then lost 2 reactors due to a construction decision.
Bottom line: the nuclear weapon detonations will cause much larger problems that the nuclear reactors, even if the detonations are all air-bursts and not ground-bursts.
We’d be better off if we’d gone forward with the molten-salt reactors (MSR) designed by the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in the late-1960s: liquid fuel, full mixing (no hotspots), walk-away safety, and close to 100% fuel burn up. And the fuel salt freezes solid below 400oC.
m,
good info, thank you!
– Yes, there is one on the shelf in the back room in the garage. I have my own feelings on this, as I and my family were ‘way too close and downwind’ from Chernobyl.
– Papa
Oh yeah, this is definitely EMP proof!
Drake, Not sure if SPF 10,000 will be enough ;)
That said, if you’re within the target ZOD (zone of death), you might consider relocating 👍
The shoulda, ,woulda, coulda is what we all need to access…….location location location….find that part of the country (NorthWest) is the least target rich enemy assessment. Remember with approx 100 nuclear reactors and 80 percent East of the mississippi it is not just EMP or a nuke warhead it is also the residual effect of nuclear reactors (EMP sceniro dictate) their backup systems would be toast…and none are hardened …………….. My choice was first to have a location remote north central Nevada with fewer preps then the SouthWest or Midwest with 110 percent preps.
Ken,
Nice article and review. Thank you. I have been wanting to get a radiation detector for some time, good to see the wide offering. I noticed that some of the detectors only detect beta, gamma, and x-ray. In the event of a nuclear accident or explosion, alpha would be a biggie to watch out for in the fallout. While Alpha radiation does not have big penetration power, if alpha is inhaled or ingested, it can do considerable damage, as it has high ionization potential. For that reason, i think i will be looking at one of the higher priced units that measures alpha, beta, gamma, and x-ray. just some food for thought. Thanks again for the article and review.
Minerjim, That’s also one reason I spent more for my unit a number of years ago. As usual, “you get what you pay for”. For critical systems, I tend to pay more.
Minerjim
i am not an expert, having been out of the field for several years, but I would recommend 2 detectors one for beta gamma and one for alpha. In my experience one detector will not do both well.
PNW Sal,
When i worked in the “complex” they needed several, as there was not one unit that had multiple detectors for all the radiation forms. Wondering if the ones here that supposedly measure all of them don’t “calculate” one of the values based on values of beta,gamma, and x-ray. Thanks for your input.
minerjim
The new ones may. That would be great.
Ken.
Did you find any alpha meaters?
or did I just miss them? Sorry if I did.
Yes, two of them in the article above do Alpha.
Thanks.
Don’t be fooled by the background radiation being higher next to the ocean. This is normal (even before Fukishima and the A-bombs). This might be a good time to talk about radiation hormesis. The gamma shotgun does take out the old cells. The current linear risk model does not reflect reality.
A good and timely article. Russia, China, Iran, N. Korea and more. Even if we aren’t the target we will still need to know what is happening without relying on the Msm.
Dang Cap lock
We have an Inspector unit that has worked VERY well! was not horribly expensive and has held up well for many years.
Mine are the old civil defense models, not very sensitive but all three work.
Bought years ago off ebay because I thought they were so very interesting.
CDV-715 a high range gamma survey meter for general postattack operational use
CDV-720 Detects both Gamma AND Beta radiation
CDV- 700 MODEL 6B Geiger counter employing a probe.
( just checked the D drycell non alkaline batteries in them. all good slightly over 1.5v)
I would like a more sensitive unit at some point, something that can easily check food stuffs.
My current collection will find the things that will kill you fast, not the seemingly insignificant slow killers like very low level alpha/beta particles.
Just reviewing this article. One question is outside of missile silos what targets would have a ground burst? Most fallout, not all certainly but most, is from ground burst. This makes a large difference on preparedness for ww3.
What size warhead also. Back in the 70s 20megaton was predicted now China uses 5 megaton. Russia? US?
Pray it never happens but as the saying goes plan for the worst and hope for the best.
DS,
Because targeting systems are far more accurate than the ones used in the 1960s, the size of the nuclear warheads have been dropping.
Western warheads generally top out in the 300kT range, with exceptions.
I’m not sure about China or Russia, nor their nuclear exchange philosophies over the like scenarios.
Best regards.
Guys,
Looking at all these GCs, I’m struck by the relatively low ranges that they operate within.
Most of them seem to top out at 5000 uSv or 5mSv/h, but brag about their sensitivity down into the 0.01 uSv range. These dosages are on the low end of the range, good for detecting outliers from background radiation in everyday life, but in an actual nuclear exchange, they are going to be topped-out at a constant tone.
Does anyone recommend a good GC, possibly a combination unit, that measures both in the “everyday” range and in a elevated range from 1mSv to 1000 mSv/h (1 Sv/h)?
While folks are thinking about this issue it might do for you to watch the Putin interview with Megan Kelly from 3 years ago. The unedited one that is. It will bring into clarity Putins remarks recently and how we got to this point.Btw,the US.embassy in Ukraine deleted all their documents on their website related to the US funded bio labs in Ukraine. But not before people saved them. Imagine that.
If you want to go down an older rabbit hole look what happened to Libya. Ghadaffi had great plans for his countries vast resources. TPTB didn’t want that to happen. So he was vilified, forced out and assassinated. Look to see which countries corrupt proxy corporations took over the resources. Btw, the Clinton cartel had their greedy mitts in it as well…imagine that. We could also talk about the BS lies we were spoon fed about Iraq. Don’t be caught up in the BS propaganda that is currently being spoon fed to the clueless useful idiots…look behind the curtain. Your kids and grandkids future hangs in the balance…
BJH – Precisely! Bravo and well done sir. Couldn’t agree more!
BJH
This is the discussion ‘he who shall not be named’, spoke to me about, especially what was going on behind closed doors. Who would have thought about it being next to a border with a certain party who is now targeting specific areas?
AC, people have short attention spans when it comes to US/Foreign policy. We just blew off Russian concerns. It’s not like Putin didn’t lay out his issues with the labs(since Obamas regime) or the US. backing out of nuclear agreements. Or even the security issue of NATO missiles right on his border. He knows Biden is not in charge of anything. Biden is an actor playing a role…badly. Biden is compromised from the corrupt dealings in Ukraine. As probably the other players from NATO Countries as well.The same bad MSM characters that have BS’ed the clueless useful idiots for the last5 years are the ones running the propaganda machine in regards to this CF. As usual it’s the everyday people that suffer . Just ask Iraqis, libyans and us regular folks in America and Canada right now. Unfortunately for Ukrainians…”Tag! Your it!” Now all these countries (US included) have to make a show of it. Quite frankly. I think putin is giving them time to commit forces into Poland and other countries. Once committed China hits Taiwan. Now what? Are they going to commit to Taiwan?Let’s just say The logistics are not optimal. Would Japan and Australia get involved? Doubtful without America. The Japanese know China still holds an 80 year old grudge from WW2 atrocities. There are just too many ways all this goes sideways with very bad outcomes.
And we haven’t even talked about the bad actors in the middle East . But hey, I’m just an old warrior tending my garden. What do I know?
Please give my best to yours and he who can not be named…
BTW, Ukraine just admitted Putin hit the bio labs and people should leave the areas. Labs funded by us…
Hate to break it to you sports fans but we ain’t the good guys any more…to our utter shame…
Actually, *we* are the good guys. Us common ordinary gardeners. The bad guys don’t really owe allegiance to any particular country, but they sure gum up the works for all of us. Keep on planting!
BJH
Our government has not been the good guys for decades, thats the problem with not having term limits on CONgress, we no longer have a government Of For and By The People, corruption at its best leads to this crap, governance by the common people serving their country is the way. The black balling of Tulsi Gabbard by the DC establishment proves that.
Hi I thought Id take a chance a post my question here also:
I stumbled on this place looking for info on something my brother mailed me. The page about rad detectors seemed old but thought I would ask here. My brother mailed me a rad det kit awhile back. He has since passed away. It was a CD V-715. In it were 3 tubes not sure if they came with kit. I was wondering if I could mail it to my other brother but I don’t know what was in the tubes. I got the impression they were used in some way for calibration. Would anyone have any ideas on this? Appreciate any help you can give. I understand times have changed and the mail world is not what it used to be. BTW I am so thankful to have a place to find information my brother usually shared with me. I seriously miss his great sense of humor. What a comfort to find it here!