Shortwave And Ham Radio Bands

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1. Well dang,
   Maybe time to get back into HAM.
   Hummmm

2. These graphs are very helpful. Easier to grasp the idea of bands and signals etc.

3. Yep,
   That chart was overwhelming when I started, not that long ago. I didn’t know ANYTHING. It’s no where near as difficult as it first seems. Take it on in small bites. Tons of people have purchased the cheap little baofengs. Most are still in the box on a shelf. For the price, a great investment. They will do the 2 meter band fm only and the 70cm band fm only. Not great, but waay better than nothing.

   The antenna is the most important part. Far more important than the radio, though the radio is important too. I can easily see a day when the grid goes down. Talk about a change of lifestyle. No internet, no cell phones. Maybe there will be broadcast radio and/or tv for a few days. Maybe not. Truly the sounds of silence. We are all spoiled by weather forecasts. Bring up more firewood before the snow, etc. There will be NO more of that.

   Many here are elderly. We haven’t challenged our brains for a while. There is trepidation in doing so. A risk of failure. It’s not about the license, it’s about garnering the knowledge. With the license, many hams will help you in ways I never imagined. People I didn’t know before hand. Next thing I knew, I was enjoying myself and learning. Now-a-days it’s just another prep. An important prep, in my view. BTW that chart, somehow without even trying, it makes sense.

   1. Plainsmedic,
      not many hams in my area for some reason. the little i have learned to start with was from websites like brushbeater and youtube. i purchased a book” ham radio for dummies” to get started. anyone new to ham it’s well worth the price. it was in plain language and to the point, it helped me to get started. it doesn’t get into the finer points, but it’s a great primer. i have my general licence and have met only 2 others in my area.
      their is an old man in our area that has tried to help me but honestly he talks so far over my head i don’t understand him most times. he was a radioman in Korea in the war and its just second nature to him. i think he gets aggravated with me sometimes. but you should see his set-up, it takes up an entire wall, i’ll bet that he could move the Mar’s rovers around if he wanted to. i cut his small yard in exchange and he is great company.
      ya just can’t beat old people for knowledge and good company.

4. i have found this, what do you guys think? worth it?
   ICOM IC-718 – ICOM IC-718 HF All Band Transceivers.
   Receive Range 1:
   0.030-29.999 MHz
   SSB/CW Maximum Power:
   100 W
   SSB/CW Minimum Power:
   2 W

   Band Coverage Transmit Frequency Range
   160 meters 1.800-1.999 MHz
   80 meters 3.500-3.999 MHz
   40 meters 7.000-7.300 MHz
   30 meters 10.100-10.150 MHz
   20 meters 14.000-14.350 MHz
   17 meters 18.068-18.168 MHz
   15 meters 21.000-21.450 MHz
   12 meters 24.890-24.990 MHz
   10 meters 28.000-29.700 MHz
   AM Maximum Power:
   40 W
   AM Minimum Power:
   2 W
   $679.95 bucks
   it seems like a good deal but i would like your guys advice first before DW kicks my butt for buying it. it may be worth a butt kicking.
   thanks in advance.

   1. well i bought it, its on the way with a new tuner. now all i have to do is sneak it into the house without DW seeing it. more wire in the yard and from the trees. (i need to save up for a tower) , one day, if i live long enough.
      i wonder sometimes how much of a benefit CB would be worth in a SHTF situation. a 50 Watt linear will transmit a long way under the right conditions, skip. many people around here including myself still have them and use them for hunting. i guess it depends on your area.

      1. Scout,
         Get on-the-air. Make yourself heard in a polite and respectful way. Learn your new radio. It takes awhile, at least for me. CB radio? I believe there will be many hybrid comms set-ups. Lots of old CB radios still out there. Lots of GMRS, etc. After shtf, you’ll only have whatever it is you have. To me, consistent and reliable is the key.

         I believe eventually, most things will become very localized. 2m fm will be the most consistent and reliable for local comms, as it works better than CB,GMRS,FRS, MURS, etc. Lots and lots of cheap little baofengs out there. As I recall, you have a quality 2m fm radio to sit beside your new hf rig. You could be well positioned to distribute information to neighbors, friends, allies. Make those alliances now, if you can. Preferably, on-the-air.
         Additional relays down stream may be needed for other frequencies?

         When the phones don’t work, folks will be digging out whatever radios they may have. License will have no meaning. Official call signs will likely disappear. Having a stash of coax and coax connectors can allow you and others to make good/better antennae for whatever radio/frequency they have. As you know, antennae can be fabricated from many salvaged items, provided you have the connectors and the know-how. It’s just math.

         Congrats on your new rig. Learn to use it like your life depends on it. You mentioned “tower.” Think outside the box. Any hills near you? Tall buildings? Grain silos? We’ll all be working with batteries anyway, so ……?
         I don’t think some folks have thought through the lack of comms. Knowing what’s headed your way, is valuable information.

5. Scout,
   To me, it all depends on what ya want/need. For example: I have no need to tx. to foreign countries, though listening could be beneficial. A decent shortwave could save you some $$ if listening is all ya need. Asking questions over the air will get you answers much quicker. Each of us will have our own specific requirements of ham. I have a “shack-in-the-box” yaesu 857d. vhf and most hf bands. My VIPs are in the 75-150 mile range, so 2m ssb is the right choice for us. The VIPs have various 2m all-mode radios, some with amplifiers. We’re all technicians.

   I can legally listen to the hf bands, with my radio. After shtf, who knows. The nice part about ham, take from it what you want/need and ignore the rest, if you so choose. If this all goes bad, ham radio may be all there is????

   I believe most things will become very local. Having a base station and several handhelds (2m fm) might be used the most. So, I’ve built several small 2m fm 1/4 wave ground plane antennae. Listening to what’s going on in the world, is important too. I/we thought long and hard before buying radios. I made all the yagis. All the old 2m all-modes are used. No one makes a 2m all-mode any more. Good luck!

   1. Curious how what the requirements are in foreign countries for HAMs?

6. So I have a Baofeng and just started sorta studying for the tech license. Trying to teach this old dog some new tricks but am not good with tech stuff at all. My CRS gets worse every year!!
   Do have a question…. The Baofeng can work just like a walkie talkie right?? I know only with a license right now but if tshtf then as long as we are all on the same channel it would work?? Have 4 kids in the area and would like to communicate them if it goes sideways as I’m thinking it will in the next 6 months to a year!!

   1. Sunstate Boy,
      Basically, it’s better than any walkie talkie you’ve ever used. You could make it work even better with a different antenna. Download an app on your phone, they’re free. Multiple choice questions and answers are on there. The test questions and answers will be the same questions on the app. If you WANT this, it’s doable for anyone. It’s easier than ya think. I used hamstudy dot org. I did it on a desk top computer.

      1. I read up in a manual , but I did those online practice tests until I consistently scored high enough to pass the test.

   2. Got my tech license back in nov 2019. Only transmitted a couple of times, and I need to get more into it. I got an HAM in case of emergencies, so maybe I could pick up info.

7. https://www.arrl.org/ is a good site. They’ll try to get you to be a member, and there certainly are benefits. But you can see news and helpful links to licensing and clubs just by browsing. The magazine subscription is worth it for a few years anyway for new folks. They always have projects and How Too’s. Lots of member articles too. All this talk of Ham radio makes me want to go blow the dust off the old boat anchors. My Icom IC-706MKIIG is in deep faraday cage suspension ;-)

8. JF62,
   Good job. Do yourself a favor, get on-the-air. The more ya use it the more comfortable/better you’ll be at using it. From this point on, it’s all fun. Well, until it’s the only comms you have. Again, good work.

9. Ham radio is improved with swiss cheese added on…

10. Imagine you awaken some morning. No power, no tv, no radio broadcasts, and best of all, your phone doesn’t work. You’ll have to make your coffee the old fashioned way. Not that big of a deal, as the propane cook stove still works.
    You go about your day. Maybe ya fire-up the generator or more likely, wait to see if the power comes back on. Hours pass and still nothing works.

    Eventually, you decide to drive over to the neighbor’s place. Your pick-up won’t start. What-the-hell? What’s your next step? For me, I’ll dig a ham radio out of faraday. Information will be VERY important, all of a sudden.

    Does this seem FAR-FETCHED? I don’t think it is. For the trouble of a little bit of effort, you have solutions available to you. It’s just another prep. Either you’re prepared or you’re not. Ask that guy in the mirror. It’s better to ask him now, than have to look at him later.

11. Prepared says:
    06/03/2023 at 2:20 PM
    The National Interoperability Field Operations Guide (NIFOG) can be had for free by doing a search or going here:

    https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/NIFOG_Ver_2.0_508_version_FINAL_9_23_2021.pdf

    Pretty handy to have printed out.

    (Copied to article for posterity.)

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