Own A Gun For Home / Personal Defense? Best Tactics, Weapons?

tactics for home defense

Millions of new gun owners have purchased their first gun during these recent months. The primary reason has been for home / personal defense.

[ Read: Americans Loading Up on Guns & Ammo ]

Lots of guns being bought, no doubt most are being bought with home/personal defense in mind. Might consider a thread on what your readers/followers consider their primary reasoning’s for owning guns, what they see as the best tactics for home defense, what types of weapons are essential, how much ammo is enough, etc.

~ Dennis

3 Questions For Gun Owners

Presuming you own a gun or guns for home & personal defense, lets hear your opinions on any or all of the following questions:

What types of weapons are essential?

What are the best tactics for home defense?

How much ammo do you feel is generally enough?

Some additional considerations that I think about while running through hypothetical scenarios of tactics for home defense:

  • daytime event while at home, or catch in the act while coming home
  • nighttime event, likely much more dangerous
  • number of bad guys involved
  • where is the bad guy(s) right now, locate
  • who are they (e.g. druggy? just a thief? organized? other?)
  • what are they after, what do they want
  • my physical location during the moment when “it” happens, next tactical move
  • the state of current events
  • during “ordinary times” or SHTF times
  • layers of defense, last stop is the home
  • ways to deter
  • legality issues in my state, know the laws ahead of time, does state have castle doctrine or stand your ground law

An excellent online resource for gun related law in your state:
https://handgunlaw.us/states/

IMPORTANT! I highly advise that you read the following book. VERY eye-opening in the event that you are ever involved. It’s worth every penny, written by Attorney Andrew F. Branca

The Law of Self Defense: The Indispensable Guide To The Armed Citizen

There are lots of things to think about when running scenarios through your head for personal & home defense. It’s a good exercise to do this (think about it).

If I could only recommend one thing, I would suggest to simply carry. I do, as a habit here on the homestead. Be it while outside, inside, running an errand to the store. There’s a weapon on my belt.

Okay lets have some fun. Lets hear from you. Tactics for home defense? Which weapons / types? How much ammo?

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  1. Essential Weapons: rifles (AR & a scoped hunting rifle In 5.56 & 30-06)
    pistols (semi auto in 9mm or .40 S&W)
    shotguns (12ga & 20ga)
    Lagniappe ( two lever guns in 45LC & 44 mag)

    Ammo: 2000 5.56 / 1500 9mm & 1500 .40 S&W / 750 assorted 12 ga rounds & 750 assorted 20 ga rounds. 1000 45 LC & 1000 44mag.

    Home defense tactics: this is a tough one. I think it would depend on the scenario. If it was a break-in, and we had time, we would probably retreat to the safe room, monitor the security cameras, and call the police. If necessary, I might have to go on the offensive to protect life and property.
    If it was a full SHTF scenario, my response might be a dynamic & aggressive or it could be a tactical retreat. It all depends on what it would take to protect my wife.

    1. What would you do if it was dark outside and a bunch of thugs throw Molatov cocktails through windows or smoke bombs? Would you rush outside, fully armed, and hope you don’t get shot? Would you stay inside and try to put fires out. This tactical stuff is fairly simple in the light but your power supply could be disconnected and you couldn’t see real well. I know, a gun light helps but not if you run outside to get away from fire, smoke, tear gas. And most people won’t be part of a fortified retreat. I’m only a senior and my wife doesn’t shoot. And a sheetrock wall won’t even stop a 22LR and it definitely won’t stop a .308.

    1. bluecatmatt,
      Just to be clear, that’s not what I suggested.

      Instead, looking for constructive comments regarding “ideals” or opinions on good choices in this regard. As well as tactical opinions. Whether or not someone is already set up and is in possession of these, is a personal matter up to the individual to reveal or not.

    2. I was only describing what I think are essential weapons. Overall, I think that whatever you have or want to have, you have to be able to secure ammo for it. Common calibers that are routinely available are essential for providing for your personal defense. Many choose 9mm for both pistol and rifle. If you want to minimize how much ammo you stockpile, then choosing one caliber to provide for personal security is the way to go. In a perfect world I would have a variety of personal defense weapons as well as weapons designed for hunting.

      Regardless, the best weapon for personal defense may be whatever you happen to have at the time you need it.

  2. Shotguns, hand guns, sporting rifle, and a plinker. Tactics? My DH is unable to run or move fast at all anymore due to health issues. We will stand our ground. Period. Ammo? Not near enough.

    1. You don’t need a lot of ammo. It is very unlikely that you will be in a firefight. The best thing you can do now, is to find a one day tactical handgun course. Ask at a gun store. I had health issues when I took my last course and the instructor gave me some slack because I couldn’t drop to prone. Such a course will give you confidence even if you don’t become an avid shooter.

  3. As far as tactics go, I keep my 38 special near my bed, where I will retreat too, should someone try breaking in while I am home. I recently had another power surge which took out all phones except the kitchen phone. So I will likely not stop to call the police. I won’t even stop to look for my cell phone. Time may not be on my side. I will retreat to the bedroom and lock the door. It will only slow someone for maybe a second or two, hopefully enough time to retrieve my weapon and aim in the direction of the door. I also keep a laser light with-in reach while in bed should someone enter while I’m sleeping. The hope is that if they see a laser pointed at them in the dark, they may think that a weapon is pointed at them.
    I had been researching bright strobe lights in order to point at a possible assailant in order to disorient them, but I haven’t found anything yet that I think will work. The search goes on.

    1. Peanut,
      You could consider a 1000 lumen flashlight. I made a 450 lumen one years ago and it’s totally blinding. So a 1000 lumen should do the job.
      You could also consider a photographer’s flash. They have a broad field and you could close your eyes for that second and avoid the effect.

  4. The perfect firearms are the ones that you are comfortable, capable and proficient in firing.

    1. I completely agree RC
      My suggestion is pistol. Battle rifle and shotgun. Caliber and model to taste. Plinker rifle a must also but not necessarily for defense.
      How much ammo depends on weapon and shooting habits

  5. I would recommend a handgun in 357 Sig with Fort Scott copper spun ammo. It goes through
    level IIIA vests and some bad guys are wearing that. 5K for the primary firearm and 2K for the others. AR-15 is best for the primary, but if used inside, expect hearing loss. Maybe a suppressor
    If legal in your area. I need to work on force multiplies and tactics and practice since I could not
    hit the target with Brother in laws Glock 19.

      1. I never saw any claim on there website for that level of performance.
        I just looked at some youtube videos and could have got that confused
        with the 7.62X25 Tok (with Mil surplus, heavy jacket ammo) or the FN 5.7X28

  6. I strongly agree with Ken on having a weapon on your person at all times. Deadly force encounters seldom come with prior warning. Waiting for the “threat level” to elevate to a certain “color” before arming yourself, in my opinion is…….well…..I won’t say stupid…..I will say is the antithesis of preparedness.

    Thinking that your shotgun/AR-whatever locked safely away in the gun safe is protection, well, you might need to think again. When things go south, the tend to go south rapidly, without warning. You will have to respond with what you have at that moment in time.

    What’s the best weapon (handgun) to have on your person? Opinions vary widely. In my opinion, comfort, concealability, and proficiency with the weapon comes first. Caliber and capacity is not nearly as important. I know many will disagree, and that’s ok. If the situation and times warrant, I might carry a full size “combat” pistol for daily chores and trips to town, but when life goes that direction, I probably won’t be going to town much.

    1. – I agree with Ken and Dennis that you should have a weapon on your person at all times. That being said, my occupation does not allow that. I keep a .22 H&R revolver in my GHB, which usually rides in the back of the car, or is at hand and just not mentioned when I am at work. If I am at work, it is secured either under a desk where I am working or in a locker.
      If I am in my vehicle, I have a .32 S&W snub close at hand when I am driving. Should it be stolen, I am not out much, and I am not as concerned should someone attempt to use it to commit a crime. The smaller, weaker cartridge will reduce its lethality, and the small size makes it easier to conceal when I am not in the car with it. Otherwise, I have faced down more than one felon with assorted smaller caliber weapons.
      At home, my 4″ Ruger .357 is now my bedroom gun, where it does not live in the safe. The 1911A1 does live in the safe with the rest of my guns, to include my .308 rifle with low-light scope and see-through mounts. Ditto the shotguns. Accessible, though not as easily.
      – Papa S.

      1. – bluecatmatt commented that he didn’t think it was a good idea to say what exactly an individual might have. For myself, having had both a Federal CHL and a security clearance for a number of years, I am quite sure I am on any number of lists, and I also know that I am still occasionally “monitored” or observed by folks in assorted nice cars with binoculars. I was annoyed at first, but then decided that, like another poster on this blog, I am simply *muzzled, medicated, and monitored* like so many other veterans for the public’s safety. Should “they” decide to do anything, they will descend in mass at a time that I am assumed to be sound asleep. That’s why I passed my (unspeakable? maybe unmentionable) Ruger mini to my youngest daughter should she need it. (That, almost all my 5.56/.223 ammunition and half-a-dozen magazines) I also decided not to try to replace it, at least just now. That way, she has it and it is only minimally traceable to her.
        – Papa S.

    2. If a person is a senior, like me, and has some disabilities, like me, and his wife doesn’t shoot, like me, I would recommend the S&W M&P Shield EZ. From online reviews it is much easier to rack than the regular one. You can have three 8-shot magazines and have all the firepower you will need. Most encounters rarely take more than 5 shots.

      An easy practice is at 3 yards and at 7 yards at a man-sized paper target, firing 8 shots At low ready (Ask at a gun shop and they’ll explain that to you.) raise your firearm with a round in the chamber and fire as fast as you can hit the target. Try to get 5 shots to the body and 3 to the head. Intruder may have a vest but the head has no protection. Try with both hands and with one hand which is most likely what you will use and then try off hands. Practice, practice, practice!

  7. Great answers, However, IMHO the best home defense weapon is whatever you have when you need it

  8. Speaking from experience having someone attempting to break into your home at 6:00AM Sunday morning…

    A strong sturdy solid wood door is the best solution… At the time I had a 12ga behind the bedroom door (lost in a boating accident sunk right to the bottom) now i use a bb gun.

    First thing I did when the door started to get slammed made sure my wife was right next me in bed. got up then setup at an angle by the door waiting for perp to come through… The door stopped him cold lucky bastard… he almost got bushwhacked as soon as he crossed the threshold it is a legal shoot in my state.

    There is definitely a fog of confusion when you get jolted out of a deep sleep. Best to use a weapon you are familiar and train with so you don’t have to think just react.

  9. The best weapon to have for self defense is the one in your hand when you need one, weather it be rifle, pistol, or shotgun. All bullets make a hole and work. STOP. True, all bullets make a hole, but all bullets do not work, at least not very well. Some bullets have a lot more stopping power than others. Talk to your gun dealer about defense amo if you are not familiar with it. go online and do some research yourself, making comparisons with the ones you picked out. The bullet you shoot could make the difference between a one shot stop, or two or three shot stop, which may give the bad guy a chance to get off a shot of his own. Better yet, just be a good shot. As a former gun salesman for 6 years, and a hunter ed teacher for as many years, I’d say yes, the right bullet could make the difference. As for shotguns, I guess most sizes of buck shot are O.K Also, is there any such thing as too much amo????? And as far as a weapon goes, get the one that feels good to you, not your buddy. Then become proficient with it. That’s all I got for now.

  10. Prefer not to give my insight. I was reprimanded on this sight recently for saying something innocuous about ordnance storage during martial law situation. I was told that the powers that be troll this sight and I should “zip it”.

    1. What, were you talking about the box of .22 you had in the garage ?
      i keep mine in a glass jar with lid.
      It’s shiny & pretty.

  11. A weapon is only useful if it is available and you are proficient with it. And you can keep it.

    I rarely carry. I pretty much never do off the compound. My employer does not allow weapons on the property. Seen people for terminated for having broadheads in the retail packaging in their car.

    Around the compound I have weapons pretty much everywhere. If you are creative they are fairly easy to hide. Pretty much anywhere I’m going to be is going to have a magazine fairly well hidden. All of the hidden weapons of that same class use the same magazine.

    If you are to carry, you need to be able to quickly deploy as well as be able to retain it. That means a level2/+ holster and a grip that can maintain control of the weapon.

    If you’re within 15′ of someone they can probably be on you before you can draw. More important than being armed is being aware of your surroundings.

    Within a confined space like a house it is actually easier to hit something. There are boundaries for which they have to operate in. Aim down the middle at belly button height and you’re probably going to hit something.

    At 30′, shooting a shotgun is like shooting a rifle.

    Not having the weapon on you forces you to be self-aware and keeps you paying attention to where your weapons are. It impedes complacency.

    If I do carry around the estate it is in a Safariland 6 or 7 series ALS/QLS. It is painfully obvious I have it, but no one else is getting it without a struggle.

    I also do train periodically. Not like I should. In the case of the Big Igloo I am hedging on having the gear to ward off any crazies.

    Remember kids, two to the chest and one to the leg. Preferably in that order.

    1. Lost all my firearms in a boating accident. Now I use a sling shot and a blow gun for defense. Note: carving the darts for the blow gun is tough.

      If you have a firearm and keep it at your bedside when in bed, Great. But if its in the nightstand drawer and has a trigger lock on it? You don’t need to practice shooting with it but learn how to throw a fast pitch because that is about as good as it can be used for. The intruder is not going to wait for you to find they key fumble around and try to unlock the gun. I don’t have a trigger lock on my sling shot or blow gun.

      1. What are these trigger locks and breach cables you speak of? If I ever had any, I can guarantee all of them are in a landfill.

        If I were to have such a fine weapon that it would want to spend the night with lowly old me, I would keep it tucked in nice and cozy between the mattress and mattress pad. It seems so cruel to leave them in a One Night Stand.

        1. Yes Pinky.
          They like to be nice and warm. They don’t like cold steel and to be all lonely and left in a drawer. Another reason I don’t have any firearms. They are so needy. They want to go everywhere with you.

      2. – INPrepper,

        Make your blowgun from a length of ½” EMT tubing. Cut about 3” off, and sharpen one end all the way around with a file. For your darts, find an old-fashioned plumb bob. Heat the side of a milk jug with a propane torch; dimple the plastic with the point of the plumb bob, a dozen or so places.

        Set the cut off side of the jug on a chunk of 2×4, set the sharpened end of the short piece of EMT tubing on it and whack it with a hammer. Stick a heavy 1” nail in the plastic point, seal it in with a dab of silicone sealant, and forget about ever having to carve a dart again.

        These are as good a hunting dart for vermin or small game as you are going to get. Try them, you’ll like them.

        – Papa S.

    2. If you have a charged weapon on you like concealed and a thug has his firearm say 1 foot from your head, you can slap that gun away, draw your weapon and shoot him, before he can pull the trigger on his gun. Action is faster than reaction.

  12. They are all essential
    The more the merrier

    Scorched earth tactics appeal to me

    There is never enough

  13. Well, spend a little time engaged in therapy, and what happens? Get back to the house to see on TV that the revolutionaries are demanding that police departments be disbanded and defunded.

    Who woulda thought that caving to every demand, giving free reign to loot, burn, and destroy, would not satisfy the movement?

    While I don’t believe that total capitulation to these latest demands will come about, I do believe that a “stand down” may well occur in the ranks of police officers.

    Said before (many times over) that the enemy we face is trained, equipped, and comes from many separate, but coordinated groups (groups/factions) with a common goal. Your life, your property means nothing to them. They, unwittingly maybe, or maybe not, are being supported by young folks, who are a product of an education system that indoctrinated them. Kids, who have been taught to hate themselves because of their color (white), their parents religion (Christian), and their privilege (belonging to the middle class).

    That friends, is textbook road to communist revolution. Has this latest chaos began the final chapter in the journey these radicals began in America years ago? It looks more and more as if this may be a “do or die” push to the goal line for them.

    I fear we may lose our country as we’ve known it. I fear their may be a break up of the union. I don’t see the countryside following the big cities into this abyss. I do see a lot of pain before this ends.

    How does what I’ve just said tie into a thread on defending your homes, having plans and tactics as part of your preps? Well, I don’t believe that needs an explanation………….

    On the bright side, I finally burnt up all my remaining ammo stocks in an epic therapy session today.

    1. If Police departments are abolished does that mean there will be a sale on LEO firearms?

      1. Good question ToCor. Also, if police departments are abolished, does that mean I can go rob a bank un interfered ??? Hmmm.

        1. Don’t forget that these politicians that want to abolish the police want to introduce a federal force that they can control. I can almost guarantee that their uniform shirt will be brown. They will also most likely require thus new federal force to have an arm band so we can identify who they are. This comes from a bunch of socialist/communist politicians who want to have all the rights (including the right to take all yours away). Don’t believe me and think I am some tin foil hat wearing nut job? Just look at what they have said, what they have tried to push through and make law, and what they have done (lockdowns). They now know they can do this and are just biding their time to make it happen incrementally at first and speed up the process as time goes on until they reach their goal. Which by the way they will never reach their goal because they will always want something more.

          Think back 30 years and think about all the things we would say never could happen in the US and it has come to fruition and more. The frog has been put in the warm water and it is heating up slowly. Some day it will be too later for the frog. It’s just he won’t realize it until it’s too late. Then he’s totally screwed. Can you imagine being told by politicians 30 years ago that you can’t leave your house or you will be fined or arrested? Me, not in a million years.

          1. Trump has already used his federal police force made up of FBI, DOJ, border patrol and prison guards, when he had the photo op in front of that church. They had no badges and bot identify themselves.

    2. How does the joke go, best way to turn a conservative into a liberal is to arrest him, best way to turn a liberal into a conservative is to rob him?

      If these defunding/disarming movements go through, and crime goes up, how many of those on the left will re-think their views on effective policing after they become crime victoms? Politics and popular sentiment swing back and forth.

      Looks like many of us may need to presume we are our on first responders for some time to come. Not a call to violence or vigilantism, just the opposite. The best way to win a fight is to not get in one. Be humble, polite, quiet, and let things go and attend to your own affairs. For the Christian folks, please consider Proverbs 12:16, and ignore insults and words. Respond only in the event of actual violence/attack and that with the least force needed to resolve the issue. Let the opposition show their true selves, and be a light in the darkness.

      1. Yes, this thread is about protecting your home and your family. It is not about going to the criminals but when the criminals come to you and yours. A previous comment mentioned about having a strong door. Right now I am in a country where it is standard to have a strong door and strong bars on your windows. It might not completely stop a determined criminal but it might give me enough time for me to put a dart in the blow gun.

        As recent evidence shows. A person doesn’t need to go looking for a band of rioters or looters. They will come to you.

    3. Dennis

      “Who woulda thought that caving to every demand, giving free reign to loot, burn, and destroy, would not satisfy the movement?”

      Most of us have raised children and knew instinctively or learned quickly that giving in to temper tantrums only made the next one come faster and be worse.

      So far the libsiders have shown themselves to be pushovers for these three year old bullies/commies. We conservatives have to do better. Good on the folks in Cd’A.

    4. The move to defund police forces has only been, initially, in Minneapolis where there is a large faction of Somali Muslims. The AG and his son are also Muslim. So much like what has evolved in Brittain, no-go zones under Sharia law is what this is really all about.

  14. I agree with many on here that the best weapon is between your ears, and beyond that, the one you have to hand. Dennis, yes, this is probably ‘it’. Woke up early this morning, after only a few hours of sleep, with the thought of wanting to move somewhere more sparsely populated, and with more people who share my values. Still sitting with that. Rather late in the game, and family is here, so….

    The strategy I’m building on is multi-faceted. #1 is keep them as far away from the house as possible. Fencing materials are bought, and that work will be done soon. #2 strategy is harden the house, and be prepared to defend against battery of doors/windows, and fire, as best I can. Last thing is to minimize points of entry – I can’t cover everywhere at once.

    I’ve been training with what I have – close up, not so close, and further away weapons. I’d like to have better firepower in the further away category, and am researching AR-15 rifles. It’s a bit overwhelming – lots of varying info, and I don’t know this platform like I do the weapons I have. Someone suggest the one I priced was a cheap knock-off, so I’ll keep looking. Can’t spend too much, or I won’t be able to buy ammo for it.

    1. Since you live in the land of Cheese and Dells, go to Dunham’s and pick up a now out of production DPMS Oracle or a slightly more expensive M&P Sport II. They are both fine for minute-of-bad-guy.

    2. Farmgirl might I suggest a ruger pc 9. It is a 9mm carbine that operates very similar to a 10/22. Less than 500.00. It has a small rail that can mount a light/laser. Can easily be modified to use glock magazines. Has the parts with the rifle. I use the FBI 147g jhp loads. Very controllable and effective. Just my 2 cents.

    3. Pinky and Jaeger

      Thanks for the suggestions. I’m familiar with the Ruger LC9 pistol, and the PC9 looks like it gets good reviews. Looks like it’s pretty accurate out to 100 yds., not sure it would go 200yds with same accuracy? Would be useful to be able to stock same ammo for more than one weapon, for sure.

      1. Correct 9mm not good to 200 meters however any medium cal. 243 708 308 class rifle will. Carbine is for here they are. Didn’t suggest it but an m1 carbine is also a pretty good defensive rifle. It will handle 200 m

        1. The old 30-30 is a good poor man’s assault rifle. Holds 7 rounds and can be fired pretty fast with practice. And many online reviews show it equal to .308 with concrete blocks, pork ribs and FBI gel.

      2. At 100 yards you can watch the 9mm bullet like a BB gun. The nice part about a pistol caliber carbine is that your accuracy goes way up. More than 6″ of 9×19 barrel does you nothing otherwise.

        AR15 based firearms are hard to beat because they’re inexpensive for what you get. Even the $400 ones are more than good enough for minute of bad guy.

        I may or may not have a AR15 based 5″ barreled pistol that runs on Sig p320 magazines. 21rd with a TTI base plate that adds 2 more. It may or may not be a hoot to shoot except you may or may not accidentally get your fingers a bit close to the flash hider.

        AR15s are the Miata of firearms. Sure, there are tons of options and accessories to turn it into a racecar, a tremendous cult following, but at the end of the day you should have bought a Corvette if you wanted to go racing. There is nothing wrong with them if you realize what they are. And no one is going to make fun of you for trying to turn it into a racecar.

        1. Pinky,

          You comment—-“At 100 yards you can watch the 9mm bullet like a BB gun. The nice part about a pistol caliber carbine is that your accuracy goes way up. More than 6″ of 9×19 barrel does you nothing otherwise.”

          My experience with pistol caliber carbines differs with your last sentence. I agree that accuracy (or at least, the operator’s ability to be accurate, goes up when using a carbine as opposed to a shorter barrel pistol), but, without fail, my testing using a chronograph show a significant increase in bullet velocity, loading for loading.

          This has proven correct, at least in my testing, whether a .22 rimfire, a .357 magnum, or in the case being discussed, the 9×19. My testing with the 9×19 involved using velocities achieved from a Glock 26 and a Kel-Tec sub 2000. The Glock has a 3.4″ bbl, but my testing was done with an aftermarket Wolf drop in 4″ barrel. Across the board, no matter what loading I tested, the velocities out of the longer barrel carbine were from 150 fps to a high of 250 fps faster, effectively putting the 9×19 into the .357 Sig, .38 Super and .357 magnum power factor.

          .357 mag carbines produced even more dramatic increases in velocities. At least in my experience, pistol caliber carbines bring increased power in addition to increased user accuracy.

  15. In addition to handguns and shotguns, I have a collection of home exercise equipment in the form of hand weights (1 to 5 lbs), kettle bells (10 to 35 lbs), and body bars (4 to 15 lbs). All can be used to interrupt anyone attempting to take aim or otherwise attack. The body bars make a good staff weapon.

    I also bell my doors and windows. Christmas time year round provided you indoor pets don’t play with them.

    But the best deterrent this time of year at night are the locals bears, cougar, and elk. .

  16. So this is a very important and good topic. A lot of great answers from all the above. I would consider Dennis the resident expert on firearms and listen to his advice.
    As a person with some some experience in firearms and military training, I figured I would add my 2 cents.
    Obviously, use what your most comfortable with. For distance and force multiplier, the AR15 is a great choice. For indoor work, I would suggest a 9mm carbine with light/laser and hallow point ammo. This combo gives stability and minimizes over penetration. Shotguns are great, the augulia mini round #4 has a good grouping and reduces recoil and helps with control.

  17. The best firearm to have is one that you are proficient with. Buying weapons and stocking ammo fine, but if you can not instinctively operate the weapon it’s not much use. The adrenaline rush that your body experiences can drive normal thinking processes out. Muscle memory acquired through consistent practice helps over come that problem. Practice is more than standing up punching holes in paper, practice the scenarios that you think are likely to arise. In the home use a dummy firearm and practice moving and using cover / concealment. The more you do it the smoother it becomes.

  18. The following is an excerpt from an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. I believe it is important in today’s propaganda driven anti-police narrative to know the truth.

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    “This charge of systemic police bias was wrong during the Obama years and remains so today. However sickening the video of Floyd’s arrest, it isn’t representative of the 375 million annual contacts that police officers have with civilians. A solid body of evidence finds no structural bias in the criminal-justice system with regard to arrests, prosecution or sentencing. Crime and suspect behavior, not race, determine most police actions.

    In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population.

    The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

    […]
    The latest in a series of studies undercutting the claim of systemic police bias was published in August 2019 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The researchers found that the more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that a member of that group will be fatally shot by a police officer. There is “no significant evidence of antiblack disparity in the likelihood of being fatally shot by police,” they concluded.

    A 2015 Justice Department analysis of the Philadelphia Police Department found that white police officers were less likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot unarmed black suspects. Research by Harvard economist Roland G. Fryer Jr. also found no evidence of racial discrimination in shootings. Any evidence to the contrary fails to take into account crime rates and civilian behavior before and during interactions with police.”
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      1. They don’t let facts get in the way of their goals and ideology. Take this ‘climate change’ mumbo jumbo for instance. They have been caught multiple time falsifying data. So if the data doesn’t fit their goal or ideology, then they will just make something up. If their goal was for everyone to wear hard hats at all times, they would push story after story about how many gagillion meteorites come to earth every year and try to scare everyone that hard hats would protect you from a meteorite impact.
        Just like this deal now. They are trying to paint the picture that every police officer is dying to go out and kill someone.

    1. Dennis –
      I am familiar with all of the statistics you presented, except one. “a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.” That shocking, sobering statistic explains so much and woke me up with a jolt.

      Recently I was also reading a series of scientific excerpts from formal studies, done over centuries, which compares the cranial volume, brain mass and tissue convolutions among the major races. The results of those studies have remained consistent over hundreds of years. Like your information, the brain studies explain an awful lot… wondering why it isn’t taught in schools. Hmmm…

    2. Dennis,

      I saw those stats on Hannity and Tucker a night or so ago.
      Our local NBC/FOX station picked it up. They gave the stats just as you show but at the end of the segment they added on
      “Because the Black population is so small (13%), more are shot than what you can interpret from this listing.”
      Seems like no matter what you show to them, they will twist it to what thy want.

      With that in mind. I was thinking. At the most, how many protesters are out across the nation (all cities). Have no idea how close I am but lets say there are 10 million.

      If the population of the US is the 330 million or close. That’s about 3% of the population telling us what we will do in the future.
      Makes no sense….

    3. Spot on D
      Im tired of people who run on emotion, they are all around me, has me seriously questioning where im at regardless of everything good

  19. all we can afford is a 12 gauge shotgun at this time so i have loaded up on 00 buckshot and deerslugs we live in a apartment so i have to be very careful about what way i would shoot and the angel i would shoot at this is NOT a big apartment so i would have REALLY have to be careful in a mid sized apartment would 00 buckshot be to powerful ?? if so what should i get?

    1. kevin,
      Consider using “less than lethal” ammunition for your shotgun. e.g. Rubber bullets (rubber shot in a shell) though probably still deadly at close range, may be an alternative given your apartment concern. Just a thought…

      It is a huge concern for those who live in apartments. Your neighbors! That’s a tough one…

    2. Kevin,
      An apartment huh, well that’s tough. I’ve dealt with the end result of many shotgun injuries. Bird shot, from a shotgun is a devastating blast. Yes, your range will be reduced greatly. Penetration of walls into an adjoining apartment, may be significantly reduced with #8 or #7.5 birdshot. There are no right answers for your predicament. Those who may believe that birdshot is weak, well you are wrong. At close range, inside an apartment, a truly deadly weapon.

    3. Rubber shot, beanbag rounds, rocksalt..
      rocksalt might end up being a big liability through pain and suffering.
      Any gun fired in an enclosed area can damage your hearing, even .22

      Many years ago in my criminal law course we were told of a burglar that fell through a skylight onto a kitchen table.
      Knives in a stand is what the burglar fell onto.
      He sued and won big bucks for owners negligence, leaving knives on their own table in their home.
      Dead people don’t sue or cry about pain and suffering.

      Everything is a choice, bad as it may be.

    4. Unless everyone has earmuffs you’re going to have severe hearing loss. Use active noise canceling headphones 🎧. You can crank up the volume and have super human hearing yet when you fire the weapon it cancels the effect.

      P.S. everyone needs to make certain the ballot box your ballot goes into is secure/ sealed! If not bring to the attention of the lead poll officer, speak loud enough so others can hear you but not loud enough to be disturbing. If they refuse to seal it before you then call law enforcement, ballot tampering is a crime.

      Please forward this! we need to get everyone to be on the look out for election fraud!!

    5. A 12 gauge will allow you to kill just about anything, from a bird to a bear, to an armed intruder, as it can be loaded with all sorts of different types of shells.

      The best combat load, allowing the greatest number of lethal pellets on target at the greatest, aimed, range is #4 Buckshot. Each pellet is slightly larger than .22 caliber and delivers 22-24 pellets in each round. This means this shell will hit a human target out to 50 yards, while larger size shot may completely miss, even if carefully aimed, at this range.

      Remember, you MUST AIM the shotgun to hit your target. It is not like a TV show.

  20. Years ago I was young, strong and single. I had a wide variety of firearms that were large and powerful. Many have been stolen during the relocation out of state years ago. ( much like tragic boating accident.). I never had an AR platform rifle in California as the California Approved AR rifle was an abomination.

    Present day, I am older, married with some arthritis in my hands and my wife also has some arthritis going on as well. The 357 magnums were replaced by compact 380 ACP and we still have a bunch of 38 specials around the house. We have some 9mm handguns around and we have 1 carbine in 9mm as well. With the arthritis and advanced age, we have a pump shotgun in 20 gauge with lots of birdshot and #4 buckshot.

    Tactics? simple for us. We will stay in the house. In order to face the lethal threat from us, you have to break a window or cross the threshold of our door ( front or back ) and be within the floorpan of our house.

    Years ago, Ken published some photos of a bear giving him the evil eye in his yard on this site. When I lived and cooked in bear country I had a 12 gauge shotgun or 44 magnum carbine nearby. I was religious about cleaning up the kitchen and I carried the weapon with me when I took the garbage outside. Sounds absurd to think: you need a weapon in the kitchen? rough neighborhood? Living in bear country is different.

    This was the only time I went outside my house with a weapon outside of my job as a public safety officer.

  21. Forgot to mention: I am a hunter and still do some competitions so those weapons are packed in locked cases, unloaded for purposes of transit. I am thoughtful about being pulled over as the resident Asian Driver on this site.

    now: “Get off my lawn”…Walt Kowalski from ‘Gran Torino’

  22. Years ago I spent some time as a police reservist and also as military reservist for 28 yrs and I’ve been a shooter since I was 8 or so ( since my dad put the .22 rifle in my hands and showed me how to shoot ) and I’ve been carrying for the last 4, 5 yrs since my wife passed, just because of all the crap that is going on in this country and after all the poop that Biden and his band of out laws are pulling. The funny part was that my wife was devote democrat from Iowa and firearms were not in her vocabulary and I don’t know how many times we argued about the firearms that I had, but she like all the pheasant and deer that I managed to bring every year

  23. – Realizing this is a late entry for this post, I will comment that, during my younger years when I lived in an apartment, I may or may not have had a pump shotgun with #4 buckshot leaning in the corner behind the bedroom door.

    – Papa S.

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