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Yep. I’ve tried to explain that a number of times and been told over and over that I don’t understand. So I stopped.
Oops ,
tub isn’t big enough for me to do backstroke. Made it sound like I was 1000 pounds. Lol
Not that big hahaha.
Peace,
MadFab
MadFab,
Glad to see you’re up and at ’em again. Hope your ride gets ‘healed’, too!
Frarmgirl,
Yes doing better, but as everyone can see I have quite a bit of down time so I am making a pest of myself posting. Lol
Yes hoping my whip will be healed up. Fingers crossed!!
She is older than my kids and had her a loooong time!!
Glad things seem to be getting lined out for you and your boys.
Peace to ya all,
MadFab
Lol, MadFab
Critique much?
The thought never crossed my mind.
I don’t think I could have done a backstroke in the once pool we had, let alone a bathtub/gardentub.
I do make snow Angel’s on the frozen pond, occasionally…..and that’s kinda iffy.
Deep open water is not my friend. ..
too many past mishaps.
Wading through creek water….that’s my style.
Joe C,
I was only critiquing my own forgetfulness in adding that. Sometimes my mouth out distances my brain and my fingers really do!
Deep water not your friend? Don’t ya have all those big lakes near ya?
I get a bit wigged out sometimes when we are out on the ocean and land looks a million miles away, but I am part fish. Love being in, on and around water.
Peace,
MadFab
MadFab,
Lol
Yes, big lakes all around me……and miles of land that separate us.
Across from the University, at the far west (?) end of a large parking lot overlooking a stone and sand cliff which I believe faces south.
Lauren,
Your the 2nd one who has told me that. Next time I am in Logan, I’ll check it out.
Screw MSM
Just keep your nose on your local ‘news’,
for it’s the only news that matters, at this point.
By news, I don’t mean any media news coverage.
Friends, neighbors, family.
The ones that are truly out there, witnessing real news.
NRP & Blue
Where you able to skip that golf ball across the water like skipping a rock? Lots of fun, did it one time and I was not trying. lol
I am going to drag out the golf clubs to practice on the grass around here..it is getting tall.
Antique Collector:
Not able to “skip” the Golf Balls off the River, but I have done that across the Lake at the Course, BUT it seems the Balls never make all the way across the lake for some reason…..
NRP & Blue
You forgot the water wing attachment. 🤩😂
Dennis
Noticed that also today, ask hubby “Is that all they can offer for news?”. Asked him to find something more worthy of his time.
Since I’m getting ready to teach Roman history for probably the last time in my life, thought I’d mark the occasion by sharing a little Romanesque joke I found:
A Roman walks into a bar and asks for a martinus. “You mean martini?” the bartender asks. The Roman replies, “Slow down there! I’ll let you know when I want more.”
(Didn’t say it was a great joke, lol.)
Framgirl,
Even a corny joke( my favorite) will make ya smile 😃😊.
Peace,
MadFab
Farmgirl did you ever teach how the Romans created the public baths and first flush toilets? Did you ever teach about the sponge on a stick dipped in vinegar for toilet paper used by everybody passing though? Might sound gross but was a MAJOR Public Health improvement over Superstorm Sandy’s pooping in their apartment hallways and some of the stories I hear about TX.
The Roman Toilet paper Sponge on the stick is where the “I got the short end of the stick or the *hitty end of the stick” jokes comes from.
Roman Military Medicine was far more effective than commonly known. I wish my favorite beagle hadn’t given birth on my pile of roman history books so many years ago. Herbals like feverfew, woundwort and even tooth extraction and dental care at FAR better than American Civil War levels.
The Dark Ages we LOST a lot of what was common wisdom of the Greeks and Romans. What will we lose after the Stairstep Socialism Collapse of America? We are already suffering from cancel culture-double BAD speech from Orville’s 1984.
Do you have hardcopy knowledge to pass on to your Grandchildren friends? Bible? Constitution?
NH Michael,
Public baths, roads, aquaducts, ‘indoor plumbing’….yup. Did not know about the sponge on a stick! I’ve got all kinds of hardcopy, as that’s my favorite way to read. Never been much of a kindle person. Bible, check. Constitution, check. Lots of other things.
There was a librarian, KY or TN, who was fired for removing books by conservative authors from the library shelves and burning them, just last week I think. We talked about preserving knowledge and culture sometime last year on this site. Might be good to revisit. If the leftists have their way, lots of good books will disappear.
Farmgirl
If you are unable to locate a book on different historical events where the military services were involved. The VFW magazine that dh receives has great historical records, I have started saving them in a binder for the great niece to read before the pundits change the facts to suit their illogical mind set. Only saving the cover along with the articles to reduce the size of the magazine.
Glenn Beck has been saving historical books, artifacts so that history can not be altered but preserved for those who come after us.
Good suggestion, AC!
Farmgirl, That was Chattanooga City Library, Librarian Removed and Burned books by Conservative Authors from City Library shelves. Act was committed back in Dec but Firing just happened after Investigation and Hearing plus “Negotiations” by Lawyer to Return Yet Unburned books and Pay for destroyed books….City Declined Offer and Fired him. Librarian is Also a Leader of Recent BLM Protest and Organizer.
Went to Italy in 2000. The tour took us to Ostia Antica and the public toilets are still there. Water running under them all the time in their day, out to the ocean. Would send in the slave to warm the seat first. Really cool ruins. The city was on the ocean but was now 2 miles inland south of Rome.
NHM,
I was doing good until I read, “the sponge on a stick dipped in vinegar“. That is how and what Jesus was offered on the cross when he said, “I thirst.” Not saying it was the “toilet paper”, just commenting on the visual I got.
I meant sour wine, not vinegar. The visual threw me.
Well, Tom given all the brutality they lavished on Jesus why would a Roman Soldier not find some sick humor offering a thirsty man a sponge on a stick in that era?
BTW I’ve tried the roman toilet paper sponge on a stick dipped in vinegar. Worked well enough and the vinegar doesn’t burn like I thought it might. It does keep the sponge non stinky so I assume that was the idea.
Some passages of the Bible say wine vinegar, others say wine mixed with gall or myrrh. Basically, a mixture given to the condemned to dull the pain of crucifixion. Christ refused this offer.
Farmgirl –
Romulus hands the blueprints he’s drawn up over to his building contractor. The man unrolls the scroll, sees the timeline of One Day, then re-rolls the scroll and hands it back to him, saying, “Buddy, I’m going to tell you right now, no one can meet that kind of deadline.”
Or…the favorite cheer from the Roman Games. “II, IV, VI, VIII…throw that discus long and straight!”
M’Lynn,
Nice! I’ll see if #4 son gets it.
Latin language nerds like me love it!
Mass Media owned by a very few RICH Families produces Propaganda. Propaganda can sell you a viewpoint like buy this perfume and you’ll be rich and sexy, can indoctrinate you slowly into accepting a viewpoint that there ARE more than Male and Female humans. And some people forget Propaganda can Distract you from other critical thoughts much like the Magician flashing cards in his left hand when he wants you to ignore his Right Hands actions.
DISTRACTIONS like Tiger woods injury, Kim Kardashians’ butt and so on. Can’t have people questioning the Sockpuppets actions with world leaders.
Very few otherwise intelligent people can understand that their point of view is always being molded into the worldview of a few Rich People. Georgia Guide stone sort of people.
Yep, according to the news media……..
An “armed” insurrection took place in Washington, D.C…..truth is though, not a single firearm was displayed or used by participants
Officer Sicknick was “murdered” by an “insurgent” “armed” with a fire extinguisher used to strike the officer in the head….truth is, investigators say no signs of blunt force trauma, family reports officer Sicknick died of a stroke and had not been struck in the head
Over 200 “insurgents” have been arrested in the “armed coup attempt”….truth is, only a small handful have been charged with any offense other than misdemeanor trespassing.
Five people were killed in the “armed insurrection”…..truth is, only one person died as the result of deadly force…an unarmed female shot dead by a Capitol security person with doubtful justification.
Could go on….just a few examples of our media parroting propaganda from the left…brainwashing the gullible….
Good morning from the mountain. Sun broke bright and clear. Temperature is pleasant, wind is calm. Snow is almost completely gone. Gonna be a blessed day….without the TV, life is real, life is good…get outside…immerse yourselves in reality.
Dennis:
The “MSM” does not want the truth, they want justification to their lies and the ability to bend the minds of the public.
One needs to remember who “controls” the media.
No disrespect to Tiger, but who gives a Flying Fig? Y’all have any idea how many Auto Accidents there are in one single day?
I agree with you, NO TV. a total waste of time AND it will rot the brain.
Life really is good if one takes the time to understand Nature and Life as it is meant to be.
GREAT Day here on Lightening Point, absolutely beautiful sunrise and brisk for the morning walk with Ole Blue.
NRP & Blue,
Yep…reality can and will slap you around and rough you up occasionally…but will never lie to you…you can fight it, you can work with it, use it to your own advantage….you can ignore it, but at your own peril….
……but, no matter how hard you try to hide from it….reality will find you…you will have to face it…….
So folks better immerse themselves in reality to cushion the shock when it can’t be avoided….and believe me….that time is upon us….
Enough philosophying for one morning. Pretty day developing…got a new pup to introduce to the wilds of the homestead….he can observe as I set a few snares….maybe we can catch the coyote that I believe took his predecessor…maybe he will run a squirrel up a tree for me….living reality….filled with “ifs and maybes”….but that’s reality for you.
Mornin guys,,
it is kinda amazing how far away from reality to pure fabrication the MSM has gone. There were hundreds of thousands at the capitol, only a very small number involved in breach, most of those just sauntered in, took some pictures then left,,, not one firearm, only fatality was an unarmed vet,
but these idiots who live and breathe MSM BS howl about the violent conservative extremist killing people in the capitol.
cant fix stupid
Mornin guys,,
it is kinda amazing how far away from reality to pure fabrication the MSM has gone. There were hundreds of thousands at the capitol, only a very small number involved in breach, most of those just sauntered in, took some pictures then left,,, not one firearm, only fatality was an unarmed vet,
but these idiots who live and breathe MSM BS howl about the violent conservative extremist killing people in the capitol.
cant fix stupid
sorry Ken, i realize this belongs over yonder
Apparently the Kommie fornia ‘know it all’s’ have decided that “your” children/grandchildren should receive the vaccine whether you like it or not.
Picked up the story on a conservative news site, one of you happen to mention awhile back it so I saved into favorites, now I am glad I did.
They’re desire is to change the Constitution of Kommie fornia. So they will be the ruling party…as if they are not already. gheezz
She doesn’t like it when you don’t say her name correctly. It is Kammie Fornica.
DAMedinNY
Thanks…lol
See your gov and the one we are stuck with here are not as popular as they believe. Makes me wonder what kind of fairy dust they have been powdering their faces with all these years.🙄🤔lol
Did you happen to see they are issuing new ID cards for retirees & dependents? It was in the Military Times which we receive in our email account. Thought you might like to know. Did you call them back to see what was causing the hold up for your replacement card?
I like shopping in the commissary for certain items, but for us it is hours of driving. Now with acdh’s health requirements, it is out of the question to travel that far.
I’ve used fishing line before…
When cleaning mags, is one supposed to use a cleaner of some type? I haven’t ever – have always just used q-tip/soft cloth for removing any grit or gunk. Not doing this today (other things to tend) but want to make sure I have what I need on hand when I do. Sorry if it’s a dumb question; just never thought about it before. Thanks.
That is NOT a dumb question. Short answer: YES, clean the mags inside and out as best you can.
When cleaning mags I use Qtips, or the wooden applicators with the cotton tip on one end. I get a little Hoppes No. 9 cleaning solvent on the cotton tip and wipe the gunk off. After cleaning, I apply a bit of silicone lubricant to a clean cotton applicator. I lightly lube the inside of the mag well while pressing down the follower as far as I can. This helps the follower move more smoothly. Some magazines can be disassembled which allows for a more thorough cleaning and even a light application of lubricant to the spring. Silicone lubricant “dries” and does not attract dirt like oil does that is why I prefer to use it. Your owners manual should explain how to clean the magazine for each weapon you own.
Enjoy your shooting!!!!
Tom, Thank you so much. My gut was saying oil wasn’t quite right, though I have both Hoppes cleaning solvent and lubricant. Appreciate you explaining about the silicone lubricant.
Will do!
Amazon removed a book from their site titled When Harry Became Sally. Author is Ryan Anderson a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Making the case transgender is really about ideology than science.
Whoo hoo
I have a job interview this Friday.
Sent an online resume last night and received an interview appointment 12 hrs later.
I don’t know any of the perks or starting wage, but a different type of work area, with a profitable newly developed (in our area) privately owned company.
(If it’s meant to be, wish me luck.)
Ohmar informed me today,
Gas going up another 14 cents…soon.
Received the new land tax statement, today. I’m sure its risen again. I haven’t looked.
1 month into it,
Can we now say the Trump years were the good ole days?
Joe c
good luck hope it works out
I have been looking myself
getting to old to be doing this physical labor crap
Joe C,
GOOD LUCK! Hope you are successful in getting the job.
Joe C –
Not only wishing you Good Luck today, but will also be praying on Friday that you feel at peace when you walk into the interview. That the surroundings feel comfortable and the folks feel like new friends. As you said, if it’s meant to be, everything will just click into place and we’ll all return to give you our Congratulations on a new chapter beginning in your life when they realize you’re the absolute best man for the job. 🙂
M’Lynn
I will carry your words with me, on Friday
And all my days.
Thank you
Hope the job has good pay and you get it bud,,,😎🤙🏻
Joe C,
Woo-hoo!!
Sure hope it all works out for ya. If it doesn’t, you should let your current employer that ya have the ” chance” of other employment. Maybe they will kick down with what your worth. Although most companies can’t afford to pay millions to just 1 employee. Hehehehe.
Good luck!!
Peace,
MadFab
Joe c
good luck on the job interview bro, you’ll get it.
i’m rootin for ya !
Joe c,
Hope things go well….be yourself. If it’s meant to be, it will be yours…if not, something better is on the way.
Wow, I am truly grateful for ALL of your kind and encouraging words…we will continue on Saturday’s open forum….
‘Cause I need ya all.
And i mean, I’m emailing a “Lauren”, it’s gotta be a good sign, right?
I’ve tried the bargaining thing, a few years ago, with my current employer. .they don’t care.
Manager, supervisor, both;
Good luck. We’ll miss ya if you chose to leave.
My coworker is in the mix,
things ain’t looking good for our plant in 4.or.5 years, or less. My supervisor will retire in a year….no guarantee I would be ‘the chosen one’, as to fill his place. And he’s treated like crap.
I dont need it. I wouldn’t fit in.
It maybe a time to see beyond the 4 walls, I’ve seen for 32 years. Hell I can drive the route with my eyes closed…..some mornings I do.
DB
I, also, wish you luck, in bettering yourself. And I hear ya.
Joe c
You will do great in this interview!
Hope the job is a good fit for you, good luck!!!
Joe c,
I’m late to the well wishing party, and would echo many of the sentiments already expressed. I’m excited for you! Be your wonderful self, don’t be afraid to talk about your strengths, and also what you’re looking forward to learning. If it’s right, it’ll happen. If it isn’t, you’re still taking a step of faith. Something’s stirring you to get in motion about finding work that fits you better. Keep following that, and you’ll end up exactly where you’re supposed to be!
Godspeed on your interview Friday!
Good luck Joe, now maybe you can buy that RING….:-)
Mrs. U
Lol
Yep
Like I’ve said in the past,
I’ll make sure you’ll be the first to know.
Huggs
Joe C hope today went good for you.
Thank you, Texasgirl…
See below.
Or somewhere in this..
Joe c, I will be praying for you and your job interview. May God bless the work of your hands, whatever that may be.
Haha
Thank you, AC, In the Mitten Farmgil, Tom and all
I guess this shall be an excuse for me to finally shave this winter, deer hunting beard off.
I’m half way there, as of tonight.
Razor tomorrow.
Love ya all,
for this much needed self confidence, tonight.
Thank you
wrong place fir this.. sorry
belonged on the other side
Another night…another possum. Stepped out on the porch, spied a possum crossing the side yard towards the chicken house. Stepped back inside the house, grabbed the little Savage bolt action .22 mag….possum had made it to the door of the chicken house.
Didn’t turn on the light mounted on the rifle for fear of spooking it. Just enough ambient light through the open chicken house outer door to make out the possum, but not the cross hairs in the scope. Thought I had the possum centered enough to take the shot. Squeezed off, possum took off with a heavy limp.
Jacked in another round, turned the weapon light on, found the possum again in the scope….running as fast as three good legs would carry him, about 20 yards, quartering away….led him too much…clean miss.
Chambered a third round, possum now about 35 yards off still making good time…this shot rolled him.
Could the possum have got to the chickens through the hardware cloth covered door that was latched shut? Couldn’t take the chance. Second one this week.
Dennis,
Its a wonder that possum didn’t die of a coronary! good shooting in the fading light with a rifle.(Only chance i’d have of a shot like that would be with my 12 ga.) Even though it is still technically “winter”, we are getting close to mating season for varmits. Foxes denning up here, and the beaver have been after my shelter belt trees again. I need to be taking a walk at dusk with the scattergun and some #4 buck.
minerjim
If you put holes through that fur your dw will not have a very warm hat, coat or gloves for the winter time.😉 You should get a hold of Tom from the Mountain Men show so he can covert those pesky skins into a usable clothing item. 🤗
Have not seen a possum since the foxes came to stay. Which is good. They have no fear of coming the cat door on the porch.
Hi all ,,,RANGE MAGAZINE has a good write up on what’s happening in the west to ranches ,worth the trouble to look it up ,,,i’ve been dropping a little bit about what we have happening us , but this explains the going on in a way I never could ,,,
RANGE MAGAZINE ,spring 2021 ,page 26 ,WEST FIRST! ,,,,it a real cowboy MAGAZINE,
,,,,,warning might make your blood boil,
0ldhomesteader
Thanks for the heads up. Will read it when time allows tomorrow.
ac/acdh
Are you referring to this “ rewilding“?
That sounds like the UN agenda 2021 that failed, now it’s agenda 2030.
I think pushback and Trump had a little to do with holding it off.
“they” want massive tracts of land to be development and people free covering over 3/4 of the USA with mega cities for the reaming population and penalty for any trespassers that do not have permission for the “restricted” area’s.
No hunting, building or people at all, controlled by the UN.
If it’s something else please point it out because I can’t see it.
I’d post a direct link but ken seems to ignore all my posts with links so they never get approved or seen.
Yeah, “they” want everyone in big cities (all amenities within walking distance, so no cars required) and all the farming done by conglomerates and big machines. Everything else, the whole world, would be rewilded. In reality it would probably be “leased” to the “major stakeholders” for their own private kingdoms.
Lauren,
think “management contracts”
one more thing to suck off the government
Oldhomestearder:
Thanks for the link. These are probably the same people that want my neck of the woods to return to open grazing for the buffalo. Can’t remember the year or the publication but they actually had that plan put into print trying to sell the concept.
I guess buffalo chips must be “cleaner” than cow chips.
Moe,,,,,,,, buff ,the best eating ,,,some years back I had great interest in them ,helped out at a buff ranch a couple of miles down the road ,loved working with them , BUT , had some things happen that changed my mind about raising them ,i did some of the feeding and all of the vet work ,most of the time where like pets , but the wild in them would come to visit out of the blue , had to rescue the owners wife one time ,she drove a brand new pickup out in the field and the big Alfa bull attacked it ,turned it over on its side with her in it ,(it was a one ton dully,)bull did not know the truck,,it was a total ,,,some thing like 40 miles on it ,,,,my concerns are for for the fools that think there pet and do dumb things ,i never felt uncomfortable with them , but then I had a couger live with me in my travel traler. ,,miss kitty,,that’s a story by its self ,,,,,,,,,,
,, ,,im cought in this land grab by big money ,don’t like it ,,,,,,if you use Windows you are feeding the beast that’s trying to destroy me,,,,,,,,,
,,,,tea and chocolate
Best of luck to you Joe C on your up and coming interview. I hope this works out well for you.
I wanted to pass on thanks to Dennis in regards to the Ryobi power tools he talked about years ago. I have a mower, string trimmer and 2 batteries and chargers to power the 2 tools. Last fall, I purchased the powered pole saw. All of these tools work on the 40 volt batteries.
The pole saw has been getting a workout with all of the downed trees and damaged limbs in the aftermath of our ice storm here in Oregon. Most of the work can be done with a pair of loppers butt, when you need a chainsaw or powered pole saw, there is no substitute. The powered pole saw has paid for itself in short order. Nice shooting on the possums by the way.
I have enough downed wood and branches in my back yard to have a new hobby for the next 2 – 3 weeks.
Joe C,
Just another Good Luck to ya for the interview tomorrow.
I know if it is meant to be you will get it.
Again, good luck.
Peace,
MadFab
Thank you, MadFab
I’m nervous as hell.
I don’t get out much.
2 and 1/2 hours away, til go time.
The confidence boost from ya all, sure helps and I appreciate it.
Joe c,
I will be praying for you. May you find favor with whoever your employer is, whether it be a new one or your current one. As a fellow Michigander, I wish you well!
In the Mitten,
Thank you.
Starting wages really stink in our state…
This maybe a down fall.
But, I’m gonna give it my best.
I was never good at ‘selling’ myself.
This is what ya got, like it or leave it.
This is what I have to offer, what’s in the return?
Joe c
The interviewer will know you are to be nervous.
If you can find Sadie hidden with the horses locked in a stall in the middle of the night & you are not panicking on the outside-only on the inside. You use that same fortitude when you enter that room.
You are seeking your Sadie on this sit down discussion. Remember a hand shake (if allowed) is the best tell all about a person who is interested in the position they are offering. Ask if you are allowed to shake hands with them, it will tell them you are interested in what they have to offer you. You on the other hand tell them you are a person of worth to them. Joe c, you remember to deep breathe before entering the room, it will calm you down & believe you will get this position, IF it is meant to be. Good luck to you.
ac/acdh
Joe C –
Remember in the movie Hitch where the Date Doctor is telling the guys not to be nervous on their first date? He said “They’re already out with you. They said yes. So just go and be yourself and have fun.”
Hundreds of people are out of work. Yet this company picked your resume out of that huge stack of applicants. They’ve picked you, Joe. They’ve already seen something that they like, so just go in there and be yourself. You got this! And you got prayers backing you up too.
Well, I’m back.
It’s not Saturday and Ken is probably tired of this thread, so I’ll get it over with.
I didn’t turn out a nervous as I thought I was.
The interviewing kids were great. Respectful. Informative. Chat that was outside of business. (Kids because they were probably younger than my boy.)
The job I applied for was hidden there, somewhere, in the background.
Grunt work was the top priority, including cleaning, climbing, inspecting an 11 story elevator.
The bennies were pretty much the same. 8 to 5 which in truth, could end up to be 10/12 hr shifts…expect it, depending on the time of year/work load.
Iffin I was 10, 15 years younger, I probably would have said yes…and I probably would have gotten it.
And at almost three dollars an hour less to start….(maybe negotiable wages?)…
thank you for your time. You have a great facility….it’s been a pleasure.
They’ll keep my resume, for six months and for me to keep checking my email.
Work smarter, not harder…
Especially for this old coot.
Wasn’t meant to be.
But.thank you all for.the support. It meant and helped alot.
Not a totally wasted day,
I got more livestock feed, the vehicle washed of road salt and have a corned beef brisket with taters, carrots and cabbage going in the crock pot.
Suns shining. Wood stove taking off the chill. Content household critters.
Ma still at work, lol
Well it may not have been the job for you but it was an important step towards finding the right fit. As you said, you’ve been with your company for decades. This allowed you the opportunity to hone your interviewing skills for the next time. Now you won’t be nervous when you interview for the job you really want. Plus, you did a very important thing by stating that you know your worth to a company and you won’t be dissuaded from finding the perfect fit that is fulfilling and rewarding.
Jeremiah 29:11. Plans to prosper you, Joe. To bring you a hope and a future that you do deserve. Today was a step towards that. A bigger step than you may realize. Just keep the faith. It’s all going to click into place at exactly the right time. 😉
M’Lynn
Jeremiah 29:11
Yes, I try to find the reasoning, and at one time I accepted it, in all past future job searches.
Broke my hip trying out for the police academy…a whole lotta younger years, ago. It put a big fa-duddle and a huge step back, in that idea of future employment, further beyond what I currently have.
.
I still try to find the answers, my meaning..
I haven’t found the answer. I’m still seeking, and i become more and more frustrated trying to understand/reason with my unforeseen path.
Lol
(Kinda)
At least my work buddy knows I’ll still be back to harrass him, in the days ahead..
Joe C
I always looked at it this way, one door shuts, another door opens.
I have had many different jobs, my mentor told me life is an experience, learn all you can and move on. He was an intelligent man who was born in 1874, lived off the grid, was a fighter to save his family and friends, and lived off the land for many years. He said those were many jobs, and as he acclimated to civilization in the modern times, he took on may more jobs. actor, writer, prospector, negotiator, pilot, bum, heheh, he laughed at that. I did his portrait for him near the Wilson Az center when he was 105 years old.
You see he was a chief of the Chiricahua Apache tribe, grandson of Cochise, nephew to Geronimo, who escaped the reservation days and lived in Mexico for many years. By chance I met one of his tribes descendants and we worked together at historical events. It was Nino Cochise that inspired me to experience all I can.
Joe C,
I think “Wasn’t meant to be” is the right way to look at it.
You interview a company as much as they interview you. Not a good fit – you move on. And you never know… this is one more group of people you’ve now met, and may find to be a useful contact down the line.
Glad you had a good day!
Joe c,
sorry the interview didn’t go well, but it may be for the best.
things always work out well for people who try hard.
when one door closes another one opens. and it will happen for you.
good luck,
sincerely, cid
Good decision. Sorry it didn’t turn out better for you. Sometimes it’s hard to explain to the young kids the monetary value of experience. With experience combined with a good work ethic, you probably would have done a better job in the same or less time plus demonstrated to the youngins how it is done. Hope better opportunities lie ahead.
Joe, I was late to this thread but I was praying for you. Sometimes the job we don’t take is just as important. You put yourself out there to check into a possible position and, it appears, made a good decision. Things will work out how they should as you have the courage to look beyond. Take care.
I feel ya JC,
im running up against folks not wanting to hire a late 50s dude with arthritis in spite of my knowledge and abilities, that or wages like i made back in the late 80s, it sucks.
I’m going to make a batch of jerky by squeezing out the strips, baking it to reduce the fat out and then dry it
Pulled out a big bag of cubed up venison yesterday to make jerky,,
going to mix it with the seasonings and preservative then grind it and shoot it out the jerkey shooter 😎🤙🏻
Bummin’, Kula,
Please do yourselves a favor. When butchering deer (venison), remove all fat and membranes. With beef, the fat improves the flavor and texture. With venison, it’s just plain nasty tasting stuff. Just finished another batch of venison jerky. We grind the venison without adding beef fat for jerky meat. The venison burger gets beef fat in the mix while grinding.
My “magic dust” which is dehydrated jalapeno rendered into powder form, makes the jerky fabulous. My magic dust supply is getting a little low, so hopefully, a productive year is coming in the garden. Definitely an outside job.
I also have hot pepper dust from dried fermented peppers.
plainsmedic
Yep, i do,,,
the deer over here are super lean, you will see a little fat, but not like you folks on the continent do, a bud of mine who has hunted extensively on the continent and here says there is a big difference between our Axis deer and the various types up there, size being one difference, but fat content and flavor the others,
My first taste of venison was from a hunt in northern Minnesota, it tasted like pine needles.
MY BIL and cousins gets theirs here, and it is delicious for sausage and jerky. Maybe your deer ate nothing but pine needles where there was no other food, but with plenty of pine and spruce in the Chippewa, deer don’t taste like it or hunters would NOT bother hunting them here…I have dozens beyond my back yard hunting during each deer season.
Ours over here are all on grassland, like MinerJ says handling is big, we usually shoot them, take quarters and straps without even touching the guts, only skin what we need to, small animals and really those are the only parts useful, tenderloins if feelin real adventurous but they are tiny on the axis so not really worth it.
over here they are an invasive species, no limits, no season, excellent protein
the taste of any wild game depends on what they have been foraging on to eat.
just my personal experience.
CID,
Yup. Have had deer from mountains, desert, and farm. Our farm/ vineyard mulies taste great! Another big factor is how the meat is handled after the kill. Has to be cooled, kept cool to age, then completely boned out (have never used a bone saw. cut out bone, sinew, and fat). I never add beef fat to burger, but I have found that burger that is ground ‘extra fine’ will retain its moisture on the grille. I always add my fat back in with liquid oils(grape seed, olive,etc) when I cook. Same for elk, antelope, buffalo. Just my 3 cents from my experience.
First venison I had was corn fed Missouri farm tagged deer. Can I say Filet Mignon?
Stardust, that is like our deer here – better than filet mignon. Must be all the corn fields here. We eat deer steaks mostly, have a bit remaining for stew and small amount ground for goulash or chili. We eat deer like most people eat beef.
We just got back today from a trek, to pick up 47# of organic raised ground bison, $6.50/lb.., which I didn’t think was a bad price.
My brother will get some, as he primarily sticks with just venison and poultry.
The other halfs parents wanted to try some, too.
We thought we’d be able to pass on some chicks on this trek, but the buyers were unavailable, today.
Some people take their dogs on a truck ride, we took chickens.
I was glad to get them back home and air out.
At least my dogs don’t poop in the truck.
Nice day today, low 40’s bright sunshine, a little breezy.
48 tomorrow. A gradual snow melt off is a good thing. My driveway will be a mess this spring.
Good job rodding on that poor side by side, DAMedinNY.
Drive it like ya stole it!
Lol
I guess pretty much all of us are going to deal with the spring thaw slops….
Well, except for Kula
I once read that bear that fed on salmon taste awful.
A neighbor killed a bear trying to break into his cabin one summer and he showed me his stomach contents—about 2 gallons of berries. Black bear up north taste good on grubs, plants, that have fattened up on berries.
Stardust, Bummin,
Wonder if sweet corn fed bear would be good tasting. They are a big issue here in August/September, fish and game have been trying to irradicate them past couple of years. You’d have to be on them quick, pull hide and chill immediately, but might be worth the effort? Can’t remember what it tastes like, had it once as a teen.
Along the northern Mississippi country hunters here hunt bear for the taxidermy, they don’t consume the meat.
Had it a couple years ago at a wild game feed. I asked how the roast was cooked and she said it was marinated in worchester sauce. Tasted sorta like beef but had it’s own flavor. It tasted good. I didn’t expect that.
Rarely eat beef but must admit that it’s the best, love bacon and sausage too, but our main diet is deer,antelope and elk, but believe it or not, mountain lion is probably the best game meat of all.My neighbor was an outfitter until he retired and he said that at the wild game feeds, lion was the first to go. And I can see why. Trekker Out
Kula,
Agreed on the size of animal. The best tasting deer are the small young ones. I can’t resist the urge to shoot those racks. Butchering is an under-appreciated skill. It’s not as easy as most folks think. It takes a lot of time and effort. Sharp blades are critical. The average butcher shop guy, does really good work. He can’t, however, afford to invest the time and energy required for butchering deer as it should be done. He would go broke. Give your local butcher a nod and a kind word.
Here on the plains, we have excellent deer. Once ALL the fat and membranes are removed, it’s very lean. You must add some kind of oil or it will scorch as you try to cook it. We have tried pork fat, it’s ok, vegetable oil, it works. The best way we’ve found is to use the fat trimmings from beef steak. If you get to know your local butcher, he’ll likely save it for you. Throw it in the freezer until deer season. Cut it into grindable chunks and add as needed while grinding your venison burger.
Trial and error for nearly 40 years of butchering. This is what works for us. Yummy
Plainsmedic
pork belly
used sparingly!
Know a few locals that boast about only shooting bucks, brag about all the racks they have.
i just roll my eyes, i hunt for meat, not sport, i get it, agree its tempting, but a nice doe is usually always better tasting.
😎🤙🏻
horns are just a bonus.
Kulafarmer,
Agree 100%. You can’t eat the antlers.Meat of the female on any deer species is always better eating.Also, have to watch the buck/doe ratio in the area.with ‘trophy hunters’ taking animals for their headgear, this ratio can get real lopsided quickly, and the gene pool influenced by a few “marginal” bucks left around in extreme cases. last buck I killed was 35+ years ago, never shot a bull elk, always cows.way more females of both species in my area. I get the desire to hunt for the antlers, but does it mean you’re a better hunter if you get a big racked animal? IMHO, if you want to get some big antlers, hunt the “sheds” in the Spring, but to each his own. I Hunt the surplus of animals, which are usually female.
I have a couple of friends that are trophy hunters that bait bear; I don’t call that hunting; their living rooms display full-sized stuffed bears, dozens of animal carcasses and fish body parts hanging on the wall, chandeliers, rugs….. I wouldn’t want to live in a house that looks like natural history museum.
There are two major evolutions in overseas trade happening right now that will affect your ability to ‘prep’ very soon. This is serious:
My newest project is on behalf of a very large power tool maker whose focus is now on growing the pro-sumer market, in India. It’s a pity – that’s some pretty innovative stuff – that we simply won’t be able to buy here. That company is done with the US. Trade restrictions, punitive tariffs, frivolous lawsuits. Done! No Mas! Nobody wants to deal with the US anymore. And now this Slo-Joe idiot. What have we done?
Thank you Tmac for the situation report (or SITREP for the Tac Cool folks). Yes indeed we are busy cutting off our noses to spite our faces. I cannot wait to hear what Refineries will be closed in TX as the recovery continues. 4 dollar a gallon gasoline Pifffft.. Try 10+ in a year if Slow Joe’s EO’s banning drilling and pipelines have anything to do with it.
As we talked bout last year the Good Old Days were the troubles in 2019, get yourself ready for serious power out situations and higher prices as the US Dollar is Inflated away to nothing to “Pay For” all the Unfunded Debts of our Country.
Friends DO the Lights out Exercise, Eat from your Preps for a week. LEARN NOW what the holes are and FIX them. Have some 30% of your preps ready to use and the REST well hidden so WHEN, NOT IF the Fairness Police (AKA Red Guard) come visiting you don’t have to choose between a blazing firefight against Trained Troops or starving as they “Liberate” your stuff.
Texans learned how easy it is to have Ma Nature destroy your Prepping Stuff. Frozen Canned good for example, collapsed roofs on stuff. Let alone a house fire from “Learning” how to use wood stoves and such.
Pray and DO
minerjim and SoCalGal:
Blue’s predecessor was a Pound Puppy I had for 19+ years.
Was without for 4 years, just could never see “replacing” Ole Photon and to be honest I was not ready.
But guess what, Photon did not get replaced, Blue added to his traits many fold. PLUS 40 pounds HAHAHA
I just can’t see being without a “Man’s Best Friend” anymore, sure they are a pain in the ASS….. Like needing to mop the floor all the time, but ya know……
NRP & Blue,
dogs come and go in a persons life, and a person never forgets them, but the best one, is the one sitting beside you right now. they will love you to the very end.
they are truly Man’s Best Friend.
Can’t they all be best friends of a different time and place? I see it that way since I lost 10 precious best buddies ever, and another best friend Tonka is nearly ready to meet the family I once had.
I never got used to losing them, but my life has been so enriched with their love and faithfulness, it reminds me how I should be towards my Creator.
most people say that dogs don’t have a soul like people. i say hogwash.
no one can tell me that something with that much personality and love in it’s heart doesn’t have a soul. you’ll never make me believe it.
all dogs go to heaven, and if not then i don’t want to go either.
Thats similar to what Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) wrote:
“If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. The dog is a gentleman; I hope to go to his heaven, not man’s.”
I know this is kinda out there. But right now I’m friggen sick and tired of .gov CRAP.
So for those that really understand what life really is about I give you this….PS: it sure as HELL is not about Joe and his Communist buddies.
Being Buddhist I truely beleive in the “Rainbow Bridge” and NO it’s not about some gay BS (not PC, but I don’t give a damb)
Honestly life is hard enough without Politics.
God Bless our true friends, our faithful undemanding understanding pets 🐾 🐾 .
NRP &.. do you call fellow Buddhists “Buddies”? ha-ha, I thought that was funny,.
Hey, Sheba my high content black wolfdog resembles that remark—I call her my Buuuuuddha Belly Buddy when I am affectionate with her. She whimper/cries when I say that like a Baby puppy.
NRP and Blue,,,,,,,,just remember you can trust the government ,,,just ask a Indian,
Or a Hawaiian,,
Both the American Indians and the Hawaiians, were not American Citizens, and were not made citizens to much later…you know…after we got what we wanted…and the politicians decided they needed the votes.
That’s how it works. Special favors for transgenders = lots more transgenders.
0ldhomestearder,
i don’t know about all native americans, but the Yakima’s get a government stipend for every man, woman and child every month plus free government housing for life. and can take as much wildlife for food as they like anytime of the year with no licences, and they control their own lands.
this i know to be true. sounds like a good deal for them.
hell, i wish i could get in on some of that.
cid,
For sake of discussion, I’ve visited several reservations and spent extensive time roaming government housing projects in a big city……pretty much the same perks….pretty much the same living conditions. Fear of losing the free stuff hinders the drive to better themselves…..but that may be the intent.
Cid,,,,,, yes all true,,,,,i spent time on that res reservation ,lived with a yakima sweethart. My best friend’s sister ,,,, both are go getters ,some of the best folks I have ever know , and sadly some of the most hopeless ,,part of the problem is lots of folks judge the difference in culture ,and and values ,,as for the ‘benefits ‘ the European mind set and greed of we will conquer , and we will take because we can ,, I look at the benefits as payback for rent on the land taken by force ,you know Hopi tell of the blue kachina that the time will come and the land will be returned ,,,the same is told in nez perce and in the crow , and others ,,,
If your close I would welcom e you to a pow wow ,listen to the drums , If your spirit is right come to sweat lodge,
I have a question I hope someone can answer. I have three pepper plants growing in a bucket. They are starting to die now. All of the peppers are maturing at the same time with no new flowers on the plants. I guess I am asking if this is normal because pepper plants are considered annuals. Frankly I am surprised I have been able to keep them as long as I have without killing them outright. Can pepper plants survive for more than a year? Or is this their regular cycle?
Yes, peppers can survive more than a year if they’re taken care of. They won’t produce as heavily. My guess is that your peppers are root bound, but it could be any number of things. Let them finish producing and see what happens. They might just be going into a recovery phase after producing heavily for a while.
Lauren can a root bound pepper plant be “Unbound” and replanted in a larger pot with fresh soil?
I know my Uncle had a Tomato Plant that was Kept in a green house for several years, he kept it well side dressed and watered. Got tomatoes from it for a couple of years I am aware of.
I don’t see why not. I think “rootbound” just from the fact that all of them are finishing up at the same time. That’s likely something environmental, and with three of them in the same pot rootbound is the most likely.
Thanks Lauren.
This week I did some more organizing and some more digging. Not a lot, but it’s progress. I have also started spring planting. Since the greenhouse “last frost date” is March 1 (it’s never frozen inside after that date) and the forecast shows nighttime lows in the thirties for the next two weeks, I’ll put the planted seeds out there on Monday. I’m dithering over the pistachio trees. I think I’ll keep them inside for a while longer.
I’m thinking of trying in-ground planting for some of the tomatoes this year. I got some of Joseph Lofthouse’s short season tomatoes and I think they would be the best option for that test.
The only things being transplanted this year are the onions (a long storage grex), the sweet potatoes (seeds and slips), the tomatoes and the peppers. Everything else will go straight in the ground.
Unless I change my mind. : )
I’ll be doing a lot more mass planting and STUN (Sheer Total Utter Neglect) this year. Instead of planting a few of each kind and babying them, if I have plenty of seeds for one thing I’m going to just throw dozens in the ground and keep what thrives.
Made some jerky yesterday, 1st time in quite awhile. Did something different; I cooked it for 10 minutes at 300f and then into drier at 156f. With that and the cure is the recommended procedure for ultimate safety.
I started it in a toaster oven with a sheet of aluminum foil underneath to catch the drippings. I used Nesco seasoning and cure and added cayenne and liquid smoke. I ordered a jar of cure, Prague powder, have to look up the amount to use per lb.
Dripping with grease, oh well.
I’ve come to the conclusion that ground beef does not make a good subject for jerky due to the fat content. From now on, only strips of lean beef, unless it is 90% lean. Should also look into smoking it first.
Grandson down this weekend to do Grandpas ladder work prepping the interior for painting. Moved into a vanilla house with dog damage to most doors and trim. Not a big deal, we are very capable of painting! after, we will change out all the carpets (again the earlier owner and her dogs).
Spent last spring and summer developing shop, cluckingham palace, turkey townhouse and all the encumbent yards, privacy fencing an acre around the house so we could let OUR dogs out in secured location….building a lawn, planting 42 trees, building 4 defined garden beds 8 x 16 each…..you get the picture.
This year we will complete a wind screen for the outdoor kitchen, redfine the 5th wheel yard (while it is out to the NV property) and paint the interior of the house. Always lots to do when making a house your own home.
hoping to check life in all the deciduous trees soon….keeping fingers crossed. Lawn look dormant but not dead, so in a month or so will hit it with revive and start regular watering. We will still have hard freezes in April and May, so will proceed with caution.
DH getting ready to create the “hoops” for each garden bed so we don’t have last year’s debacle of frozen starters in June.
Planning each garden bed layout and WILL put some perennials in to help gussy it up AND hide what’s growing.
Started the window sill herb garden this weekend, found a perfect window. 9 herbs that I seem to use ALL the time.
Hoping the country opens up soon and that all our MSB family is well and happy. Blessings.
it’s finally dried out here enough that maybe i can get some ground broke and planted. potatoes should have been planted 3 weeks ago, it’s time for corn now. i’ll have a three day window to get it planted before thursday when the rain is forcasted to move back in.
high today will be 83. what a difference a week can make.
New puppy is quite a handful. Adopted it with no knowledge of ancestry or even age. Two weeks in (almost), and a little research, I now believe that he is a Rat Terrier, little doubt that it’s probably full blood and around two months old. Someone went to the trouble of bobbing his tail…almost smooth with his rump. Can’t tell if he has been “fixed” or if his testicles just haven’t dropped yet.
He is a live wire, but loveable. Goes wide open for an hour or so, flops down and almost instantly falls asleep to recover….then wakes up on the run. Gathers all our outside shoes and boots lined up at the doors waiting to be used, and piles them up in the middle of the living room floor to teeth on. Loves to take walks around the homeplace with me, what little time we’ve had decent weather to do so.
Rat Terriers are known to be difficult to house train, and he’s living up to that. Because of the weather, our floors are pretty much carpeted with those training pads. But, I believe Charlie will end up being a good addition to the homeplace. Spring coming on….he better be ready to learn how to tree a squirrel.
Had two Rat terriers in my life. Very Smart when they get some age. Do not recall if hard to train, I was a kid. Skipper was the males name. Momma would throw a tennis ball over the house and he would retrieve it. Funny
With our Westie Terriers , we found that if you wet a washcloth and tie it in a knot and freeze it the dog will chew on that instead of your shoes. the cold reduces gum swelling during teething and the washcloth catches most of the teeth when they come out. rinse and repeat. Win-win!
Wild stormy weather this past week. Not usually this fierce. Standing water everywhere on top of spongy ground. Is making it easier to drive T posts, though. 60 mph gusts snapped a redwood more than a foot across last night. May trim it up and set it aside for future projects.
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Spent a chunk of change at HD yesterday. Bought lots of plumbing supplies. Enough for planned projects plus extra. And for a couple hoop houses. Figure with every pipe burst between South Dakota and the Gulf of Mexico might be a while before hardware store is restocked. I remember regional hardware shortages after Katrina. Nice to have a stash, JIC.
Weather here in Georgia is supposed to be mostly 60s daytime and 40s nighttime for the next 10 days, with some good rain. Took the plastic off the hoops over the garden beds where I stuck my herbs. Most of them made it, though the lavender looks pretty puny. Think I’ll plant some barley in the beds while I’m waiting for the seeds I’ve started to get big enough to plant out, and the ground to warm up some.
i have wanted to try some hoops but never have
Cid,
Taken the ham radio test yet?
Plainsmedic,
i was supposed to have taken it last week, they only have it in my area every 2 months. but the ice storm shut that down. i have not heard when it will be rescheduled, but it will.
it will give me more time to study and i’m going to go for my general while i’m there.
i really wan’t to get into HF one day 40-80 M. steep learning curve, but it will come one day.
hope your doing well friend
Cid,
Apparently you’re a handy guy. While you’re waiting to test, build yourself a few antennae. I’d highly recommend a website for diy ham antennae. M0 zero UKD dot com. That’s M0UKD dot com. I know you’re looking for a little range, being out in the country. Check out his 2m ssb yagi and 2m fm yagi designs. It’s free and they work great.
Plainsmedic,
i’ll check it out, dang but this is looking like another hobby that i can’t afford.
a person can spend a lot of money fast getting into ham.
come on S/S, i have one yr left as of last friday to get it. the hard part is sneaking this stuff into the house without the DW seeing it : )
73’s
cid
My hoops are simple: 12 inch rebar hammered into the ground at intervals on opposite sides of the garden bed, then narrow PVC pipes slipped onto the rebar from one side to the other. Plastic fastens to the hoops with clips.
Chipmunk,
that’s kind of what i thought but i have never tried it.
thanks
p/s what kind of plastic do you use?
The weather here has been trying but it is winter in New York so nothing unexpected…just that we haven’t had this much snow stay on the ground for such an extended period for years. As we entered a melt down midweek, we managed to get the Jeep stuck on the hill going up to the farmstead and then I stuck the side by side in 14 inches of melting snow/slush that same evening. My spouse said he couldn’t believe I made it as far as I did. We use the SxS to take feed and water to our animals. I had to hand carry food & water that night!
Our animals have been breeding…hopefully all are successful. Shortly, I will start incubating duck eggs, with chicken after that round, and then turkeys last. Other than meat chickens, I am not ordering any poultry chicks this year. We have been very pleased with the Midget White turkeys so far – great meat, reasonable size, good foragers, lighter on the feed than large turkeys, and they managed this harsh winter just fine.
As I write this entry, our amazing Border Collie/Aussie mix is sleeping at my feet. Wish I could fall asleep that easily. Take care all and maintain your stock of immunity herbs and vitamins.
I did an inventory of my freezers. I would need 4500 qt jars to save all of it in case of power outage. I do have diesel generator safety back-up. Doing 2 batches a day, 70 qts, it would take doing 2 batches a day for 65 days. Or, I have 6 canners, 112 qts a day, 40 days. Doing nothing else but preparing product and canning, would at least be a 15hr day, 7 days a week for 40 days.
No way, absolutely no way I can do this, so, I decided to start right now, thawing out product and can it, but, 4500 qts? Obviously I do not have that quantity of jars. Jars are really hard to come by, and I have been buying what I can find, new and used. Well, I walked into a discount store and, what do I find, 21 dozen wide qts with rings and lids, 32 dozen narrow qts, plus 3 cases of narrow lids. Wahoo.!! No limit. $13.99/dozen.
Did I buy them all? No, I did not, but I bought a lot, plus, 1 case of lids, I wanted to buy them all ,but, I felt others should get a chance, so, I asked store manger if he could order more, none available. We made a deal. If, if, they are still on the shelf Monday, I will buy the inventory of jars and lids.
Other will get a chance, till Monday.
Stand,
A very good thought, as we all should think and plan, the same.
Running a freezer costs energy. And when that power isn’t there, alot of preperations are wasted.
Or a person fights like hell to save it, when that time and energy could be spent and will have to be spent, elsewhere.
We should do the same. We’ve been lax. And the cooler months should be spent on this type of project.
Joe c
This Sept surgery has slowed me to a crawl, but I refuse to give up. Thank God, I have had some very good help from GF. I’m not normally a sit around guy, but, this surgery has taken a huge toll on my stamina and strenght
650 qts so far, chicken, turkey, but mostly beef. It’s a lot of work to bone out single cuts vs hanging quarters, poultry is even harder. But, We continue.
I’ve got about 2000 jars left, got some more in Nampa Id, but got to wait ubtil I’m better, it’s an 12 hr round trip. he just keeps collecting in the mean time.
Very dark times ahead, I beg all MSB Patriots, to pack and stack as much as you can. Inflation, shortages, and Gov’t control is gonna make prepping a huge challenge for all of us. You can not eat bullets, PMs, or procrastination.!!
Gods Speed to every one of you out there on MSB
Curing it might be less labor intensive, although just as space intensive.
Lauren
I thought of that, but there is not a lot of info on curing beef, except for jerky. If you can help me with curing cuts like chuck, shank, other than the round, I would appreciate your input
Look up instructions for pastrami, bresaola, or basturma. All three use beef. I used beef for basturma. There are others out there, but you have to look for them. Mostly recipes from different cultures.
The process isn’t that different from pork, it’s just a different flavor when you’re done. I’ve done pork, beef, and chicken with exactly the same processes.
The main part of the process is to get all the liquid out. That’s what the salt is for. If there’s no liquid in the meat, bacteria can’t live in it.
I just used salt, without a “cure,” so I can’t give any guidance for that. I rubbed it with salt, let it sit, drained off the water, more salt, etc., until it stopped leaking, then put the seasonings on it and left it in the fridge for three months. : ) It doesn’t have to be that long, but I forgot about it.
There is a wet cure (brine) process but I haven’t used that one. You need that for corned beef. Smoking is also an option I have not tried.
Here’s one for basturma. epersianfood(.)com/basturma
You can make beef sausages, but you may need to add extra fat. lets-make-sausage(.)com/all-beef-sausage(.)html
Lauren ,,, I have had meat hang with just salt and a cloth wrap uncut for 6 months in cool to cold weather, the only problem I ever had was flys. ,some folks call it aging , the meat will get a green tinge in time but will smell good , and is safe to eat when cooked , and you can cut it with a fork ,beef or buffalo ,thing I miss about Alaska when I lived there we got a buffalo every year out of the McCarthy district , good memories ,,,,,,,
That’s what I bought 100 pounds of salt for! : )
Stand, you need to start dehydrating some of that freezer food. I also realized I could never save all of our foods from the freezers if the power went out. I’ve been thawing, canning, and dehydrating a lot of our foods. I will dedicate one freezer now for dry goods. Have some bagged flour, cornmeal, polenta, flax, etc. Also have butter and some frozen fruits in there also. I can also freeze large bags of pet food, wheat berries before packing away for long-term storage to kill any bugs in them. Been reorganizing here for weeks. As the GSM intensifies, we may all experience more earthquakes and severe weather events. I just don’t want everything in glass canning jars! You can fit a lot of dehydrated foods in a 5-gallon bucket. Portable for bug-out.
DJ5280
Most of my freezer inventory is beef and pork. They dry poorly or with a lot of work, I’m not willing to do.
My dehydrators, now that’s a different story. I have 2, one is 800cu in, the other is 1600cu in. They run 24/7.
Right now, I’m dehydrating potatoes, mixed veggies. I do something for prepping everyday, some days a lot, some days a little, but something everyday.
There are dark, dark skies ahead, and I’m improving my prepped position daily. as I would hope most here are doing the same.
I have a couple things in the freezer that are specifically designated for curing, when I have the space again. I’ve tried dehydrating meat before and it didn’t work well. Dehydrating all the fruits and vegetables is a good idea, as is keeping the freezer for dry stuff. Can’t use the car right now, so I need to wait for my sister to get my dehydrator back to me.
Just gathered the eggs. Combined my 9 young replacement pullets (barred rocks) with the other 12 hybrid older hens about two weeks ago.
Got one egg today that was much smaller than the others, even smaller than some from hens coming out of the molt. I’m guessing it’s from one of the new ones. Being they were hatched October 28 last year, they turn 4 months old tomorrow. A little early for the first egg, but ain’t complaining.
The hybrids started laying at about 4 1/2 months. They are about 2 !/2 years old now…past their prime. I’ll start culling them in another month. I know that I’m feeding some that are not paying their way.
Hi all, 18 holes of Golf today, a bit windy, but a fabulous day to be free and alive.
BTW shot 4 under my handicap and won 8 bucks LOLOL
Life here on Lightning Point is good.
Blue says “Hi-ya”.
I see a little chatter about Buffalo. Have taken 2 with the old Black Powder 45-70 what an amazing creature. Have the pelts and mounts. Meat is unbelievable.
Hope everyone is having a GREAT weekend.
With all the CRAP going on… please be at peace with yourself and family.
Last week I was able to get chicken breast for 99 cents per pound. I got 2 cases. Yay!! So this week I vacuum sealed and froze chicken breasts. Also grilled some and put into the freeze dryer. I grabbed some ground chuck at a good price too. So all that made me have to clean and sort out the deep freezer. More will go into freeze dryer as time permits. The plan for this week is to start a few herbs/seeds and maybe a few bunching onions, indoors in 3 or 5 gallon buckets. Haven’t done the onions before, so thought I would try it. I also have to make time to make a big batch of beef stew (found some chuck roast in the freezer that I want to use up) and some pea soup with some ham bones and ham pieces. There sure is not enough time in a day, or in the week for that matter. Take care ya’ all and stay free!
Tattler and Harvest Guard still have lids for sale. They are expensive, but reusable.
I got some, have not used them yet
SMG
Be sure to order extra rubber gaskets for those lids. They are the weak link in their system. I keep extra gaskets on hand in case.
Tried oiling one to extend the duration of the material, over time it made the gasket harden and brittle. As you know I am always testing ways to extend items that will be in short supply going into the future.
Lot of failures with the Tattler lids. The smaller lids seem to work better. Tighten the rings AFTER the jars come out of the canner. Be very careful not to tip them to the side, but keep them upright. I finally just use them for stock, which I go through quickly. And if they fail to seal, I can freeze the stock. Lost a whole season of green beans and dilly beans with them. I wish the rings were a bit wider. I feel they are too thin for a really good seal. Just MHO.
DJ5280
THANK YOU for this valuable info. I knew about tighten lids before canning and after, but not about the tipping.
You got anymore info? You use these a lot? Ever canned meat (pork, beef)?
I got 50 dozen, so, I am gonna use them, learn their good, bad and ugly problems, now, figure solutions to the problems, while I have the time and NOT under duress.
Stand,
One last idea. How about canning all that meat in smaller metal cans and pressure canning them. Have to have cans, lids, and a sealer, but the pressure canning part is the same as doing it in glass jars I believe. Google “pressure canning meat in metal cans”, appears to be a lot of info out there on this. For a large scale operation like yours this might be an other route.
Minerjim
Wow.!! Do I feel like the village idiot.!! Thank You. That NEVER crossed my mind, not even once. I sure as hell will look into this.
BTW. You MSB Patriots see what just happened here? A new idea, to someone who thinks he’s a well informed prepper. This is how this blog is suppose to work, WE HELP EACH OTHER.!!
I’ve never had a problem with them sealing after they came out. The problem I’ve had is the lids literally rattling off the jars during water bath canning. No problems with pressure canning. I stopped using them because I lost a full batch of peaches and a full batch of tomatoes–lost every bottle. No problems that way with regular lids, just the tattlers.
Lauren
Why? What happened? Pressure canning is a lot more stressful on the lid than water bath.
Any info on tightening lids properly? Any info will help. I would really not like to work for hrs, pressure canning meat, to have a bunch of failures.
I have no idea and as far as I can tell no one else has this problem. It’s only been a problem with water bath, which doesn’t apply for your meats. I can only guess it’s something to do with pressure and water at a full rolling boil, but no matter how I tightened the lids I lost at least one in every batch when water bath canning.
There is definitely a learning curve with the reusable lids.
Lauren:
I apologize for butting in on the conversation.
Here is a thought on the Tater Lids “rattling off”
H2O boils at 212 at sea level. Once it reaches that temp it does not matter how much more heat you apply, it’s going to remain at approximately 212, (unless under pressure).
So, in your canner (water bath) once you reach your boiling point, turn down the heat so you get a nice steady boil, not a rolling boil shaking the heck out of the jars. Just enough heat to maintain a slow steady boil….
NRP,
We’re not butting in, this is ‘Open Forum ‘,lol. I too was thinking of this, rattling lids off jars. Rattling jars caused by steam bubbles forming under the jar bottoms. Certainly dropping the heat will help stop that. Maybe also raise those jars off the bottom of the pot 1/4″-1/2″ with a rack would allow the steam bubbles to form and escape without rattling the jar too. Love this free exchange of ideas, helping each other out. “2 heads better than 1”.
Minerjim:
Agreed 1000%
Never place the jars directly on the bottom of the pot, thinking that Lauren probably does use the spacer. But maybe a second spacer would help…
Good idea for an ole tunnel rat hehehehe
Yeah, I always use a spacer. The rack in the water bath canner has 7 spaces sized for the jars. It lifts the jars probably half an inch off the bottom.
I never could figure out the rules that said when I should and shouldn’t join a conversation that’s being held around me.
It’s a good idea, and I’ll need to test it.
Like any family gathering–sometimes the drunk uncle puts his two bits worth in, and that’s OK. : )
Lauren
ANY time you want to talk to me, on any post, just jump in feet first and Giter done.. I value your imput a lot.
Drunk uncle….?
You talking’ to me, niece Lauren?
(I just had to.)
Lol
Lauren several u tube channels are going to harvest guard and tattler lids, some have used them up to 10 years and they have some good tips.. Probably did not get the lid quite tight enough…on the one that came off. also the owner of Harvest Guard has a video on proper use.
Lauren & Stand My Ground
On the Tattler lids, I prewarm them in pot of water on the stove along with rubber gaskets.
Think of it as the same process you would do to prep you metal canning lids. IF you do not prewarm them they will not hold during the processing, I am referring to water bath canning. The same should apply to pressure canning.
Learned the hard way, I let the pot of water grow cool and those Tattler lids & gaskets did not seal(jelly). Not a big loss as I put them in the fridge
An online ad for 12 Ball lids for $18
DJ5280 , and lauran , we only use tatler lids on dry storage , the ones we have ,have a notch in them on top ,have had problems with those ,,,,the harvest gard ones don’t have that and work fine ,remember to increse the head space I only fill up were the jar starts to change shape,that keeps food from boiling out and runeing the seal. As soon as the presser cooker is cool enough to get open I give the ring a little twist tighter,and leave the ring on ,,on the start ring and jar must be clean ,a drip when loading on the rim or rubber ring even if wiped off will cause problems we rarely have problems with harvest gard ,,,,,,,more head space ,,,and clean ,,,,,and pre heat the lids and rubber ring,,,,,
DJ5280, are you doing a slow release or quick release with the Tattler lids? I found early on a quick release will cause more failures with these lids. Allowing the pressure to go down slowly works best for me and rare for a lid to fail. I used all wide mouth. I can meats, broths, soups, and veggies. I also allow generous inch or tad more for clearance at top of jar.
Oh wow, I see we have vanishing replies again; while the antagonist post remains up and unchallenged. Cowardice in its most elemental form.
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Alright you guys. It’s been a fun ten years, or whatever. I’ve learned a lot, contributed what I could. I’ve made some great friends along the way. I imagine we’ll continue to keep in touch via email, without censorship. But the ROE around here are a bit lopsided. And really the censorship is enough to make CNN blush.
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Enjoy your neutered, narrow scope of permissible conversation. I wish you all the very best in the difficult days to come.
Tmac calm down dude! Just because a multi-ISP troll or two has downvoted you into the saloon dump Ken still has control of this board. Hopefully he will eliminate the whole thread or restore as an anti-Orwell’s 1984 Monument to piss off the Cancel Culture Crowd.
Real Contributors don’t do the down arrow of doom, they comment like real people, unless that’s just feeding a troll.
Anti-Asian attitudes are NOT Good for Survival.
Stick around Tmac continue to give us your viewpoint.
NH MICHAEL,
I don’t down vote anyone. Including the trolls. I personally don’t care if people upvote or downvote my comments. I upvote people who respond with a post to me or they have useful information. Tmac should stick around and not worry about the votes…
Thank you Bill Jenkins Horse, your one of the Real Contributors I was writing about. I do hope and expect Tmac to stick around.
BTW I do upvote comments I support but don’t have real input to add too.
Tmac,
Like I posted to cid, I’m not taking the time to read this whole befuddle.
Down votes don’t mean nothin. If fact, I find it kinda fun to imagine who they came from.
Lol
Take a chill, stick around….
Besides I don’t have an email connection
Whoa Tmac, now your comment is just vented on your frustration from somewhere else in your life. As we who have been in sales know, sometimes you get the brunt of some ones anger that does not even pertain to the product or your sales personality. You are a mature grown man, don’t act other wise. I like you views on China and other comments.
Greetings Dennis. If you have a rat terrier, you may have to find places for it to hunt on ( infested homesteads/small farms ). From what I hear among those that remove rats from farms and ranches using dogs, the rat terrier is a working breed that lives to chase and kill rodents. Very high-energy and will go slightly crazy being a civilized lap-dog type.
From what you describe of your home-place and marksmanship, My guess is you do not have many rodents at your place. When hunting with a dog like that, you may have to leave the rifle and pick up a pitchfork or shovel to expose rodent burrows. The dog will do the killing.
As a rifleman, I must admit this hunting method is very effective around houses, barns and grain silos. I will go back to the open pastures with my scoped rifle and pocketful of hand-loads.
Calirefugee,
i have a mountain cur. she is a killer of anything that’s in the yard, rats, cats and chickens.(can’t let the girls out) about six months ago i looked out of the kitchen window and her and my border collie had a large raccoon buy both ends pulling and stretching it out. she’s tough and fast.
BTW the coon didn’t make it.
Stand My Ground
The lids you are referring to with the ‘white gaskets’, are speaking of the Harvest lids or something else?
I did purchase the Harvest lids but am using them to seal up the 1/2 gallon jars which I keep lemonade or Tang in for long term storage. Will use those lids for brown sugar since I do not need to vacuum seal those items for storage.
Thanks for the heads up. Although more expensive IF you can not find the lids locally. Using DDG for your search engine(or any other than G), you will find Ball has a website on line where you can purchase lids. Not sure about canning jars, but you might try searching those also by the brand name.
SMG
Did you happen to check on line for your local ACE hardware stores, or call them? It where I purchase the vast majority of my supplies since they are owned by local folks.
Hope this helps you in your quest for canning jars. Did you check Craig’s to see if they are coming up in yard sales?
I’m on CL a lot–the jars on there are outrageously priced and you can’t be sure they are not chipped; also the rings and lids are not included a lot of times.
That’s in Bowling Green, Ky and Nashville, Tn listings.
Just imagine–2 years ago, I couldn’t get one box of lids sold on CL.
Now, I’m glad.
Antique Collector
Not the reusable lids, metal ball lids. I contacted Ball directly. They are the ones who told me this.
My life long Friend owns the local Ace store. Jars and lids are not even in his catalog for order. I normally only shop there, but he can not get them.
I know there is no way I’m gonna get 4500 jars and lids, but, I ain’t gonna stop trying. Next time? I buy the whole inventory, with no remorse.
SMG, Idea #1, if you have a large amount of ground beef.. an alternate would be dehydrating+ storing in a ga. glass pickle jar with oxygen absorbers..It reduces amt of jars needed ..to dehydrate you want the leanest meat..(less loss) cook it in a dry skillet and drain,rinse with HOT water.. pat dry and put on dehydrator sheets.several pounds will go, dehydrated into a quart.. I pack tightly, fold 2 paper towels and put in neck of jar and turn upside down.with lid on tight… after a few days turn it over, remove paper towel and put in oxygen absorber.
It has no taste change.can be rehydrated for use in soups or stews or casseroles/pot meals. about 45 min, if is crumbled finely… to fully rehydrate.
Idea number 2, for beef, make jerky, do it crispy with the most common seasoning s you use..be sure to marinate it well.
cut thin so gets crispy dry, , from crispy dry can be stored in pieces and rehydrated for soups or stews and also can be shaved dry to add Think i finished about 3# jerky- started with 10 lbs…packed in a quart.. oxygen absorber! If you purchase any pickles, those jars can be used for dehydrated foods successfully.
The Original Just Sayin’
I’ve done #1, was like eating gravel. #2 I’ll try that
SMG, on #1, then it was not fully rehydrated.use very warm water to rehydrate and allow it to sit up to 75-90 minutes.. I used some in a casserol. MY super taster could not tell it from fresh.
SMG, I’ve done #1 too, I put the meat in spaghetti sauce and it tastes fine.
Seems to me that for the price of lost meat and 4500 jars, you might just invest in a freeze dryer. Might be cheaper, even at their hefty prices
Montana Home
$5,100. Lot of money. Great results though. but, maxed out production? Tops out at maybe 16 to 20 lbs daily. It’s in my plans, just gotta save the money. I already have about $2000 worth of canning infrastructure, and can do 70lbs per cycle.
Large greenhouse is next on the, spend my bucks on list, so maybe in the future.Plus goat fencing, chicken tractor, rabbit barn, some fishing and photography trips, after I heal up from Sept surgery.
Stand My Ground & Antique Collector:
My 3cents on Caning Jars and Lids, a very good friend owns 3 local grocery stores. According to him Ball is selling exclusively to Wally World. He can’t even put in an order for them.
Of course we’re in Po-Dunk nowhere….. get em if ya see em. This year is going to be worse.
i’m sure that most here remember when mayonnaise came in a glass jar. we have put up many veggies in the canner using them and never had a problem. i’m sure that if i looked i still have some in the barn.
does anything like that still come in glass mason jars?
Cid
Ragu sause, pickles. Have had some luck with resealing the with only O2 absorbers, (100cc per 20 oz jar), but the lid seal and jar rim has to be spotless clean.
SMG
I put in the search for Portland OR(or as NRP states-potland)there are canning jars listed on that site for your viewing. Not sure if that would be a drive for you or someone you send to purchase on your behalf but they are available. fyi
I use pickled beet glass jars that already have a seal built in lids when I ran out of Ball jars. never had a failure.
CID, Stand,
I have canned into the old mayonnaise jars before, but only hot water processed them with success. Dont think they will hold up to pressure canning reqd for meat, imho. Ball brand is king in the US, but other brands are sold that will be servicable are around.
Kerr and Mason manufactured by same.
Miner jim, CID, Stand,I have canned meat in mayonaise jars, they were older jars, not the new thin ones..- i did some research on canning re useables. this week tattler and harvest guard are both owned by the same family . Harvest Guard is the son of man who owns tattler. there are several u tube video’s out telling the exact way one should handle the lids and their rubber gaskets.. you sill have to have rings…, and they come off same as with the “disposable lids.” Tattlers/Harvest guard are supposed to maintain seal for up to 5 years.If we haven’t eaten it in 5 years we need to throw it anyway..
Classico spaghetti sauce is in glass with standard rings..and some brands of whiskey and those are 24 oz… I also re-use quart honey jars… I love to put my dehydrated sweet corn in those…and seal with oxygen absorber.
Parent company of Ball said they had several retailers they would put out first shipments to .. wally world, hobby lobby, Kroger( king soopers) stores, and ace hardware. were 4 of the ones i can remember.
This is a prepping blog, this is NOT Facebook or Twitter. We all need to work on the coming disaster, and forget all this nonsense about butt hurt feelings because someone didn’t like your post or down voted you. REALLY..??!!
“COME ON MAN” act like the adults we are.
Stand my Ground,
yup!
Yep, Stand
I agree, too.
But even on a prepper board, one has to know/ be aware, friend from possible foe.
Life is much different, from a real life contact, to a keyboard warrior, with a down vote and no discussion.
Be aware of those that surround you, with a cautious, suspecting mind.
Not just in a prepper mindset…..
Life in general
Joe c
It’s a blog, just words, from people whom we will NEVER meet. A hell of a lot difference than in real life, Of course we all should becareful in real life, but, computer words from strangers? Not gonna stress or loose sleep over key board warriors, or someone who dis-agrees with me. Just not gonna happen, to many real problems to work, not enough time for foolishness.
SMG
Olympia WA-there are listing for canning jars and LIDS. Wahooo if you are close enough to think it is worth your while.
Antique Collector
Just too far to travel. I avoid western Wash like the plague, enemy territory to me, no go zone. LOL Thanks for looking for me. I’ll find enough to keep me going.
According the Ball, they have a new plant and are ramping way up the production of jars and lids, maybe by fall, no more shortage? Maybe.
SMG
I have checked all the lines I normal use for canning jars even Fillmore. Where I purchased my metal cherry pitter. They are at zero equipment also, my next stop is Uline. If you find it you had better purchase it, as they are a rare commodity at this time. Good luck
Anony Mee
You have mail.
Hey there, just wanted to mention the water issues we’ve been having down here in the Gulf coast, TX/LA area. After the big freeze event recently, it took almost 2 weeks for our local boil advisories to be lifted. I’m sure it was like that for many, many other areas, and as a result, bottled water/gallons of drinking water sold out everywhere quickly.
We saw lots of posts from people in this area saying “how are we supposed to boil water when we don’t have power??”
It was just kind of perplexing to me that so many adults were sharing that and really distraught about it.
??I can think of several ways!
I don’t mean this to sound rude, but it’s just surprising how helpless some people are!
On my way!, Now you know who those people are and the ones you can plant ideas may now be more receptive . Those questions are the result of dependence on all electric houses. a good water filter will take care of that…so will a pan and a bbq grill./twigs/charcoal or propane powered.
I was able to score some decent priced cracked corn for my livestock today in the pet section at Wally World…probably should have purchased the lot, but I didn’t have room to store it all. I’m going to start prepping packages of Hydration hay as my budget allows; it really helped during this past ice storm. It’s pricey, but it stores well and 1 package will feed 1,000 pounds of animals. Personally, drinking Celestial Seasoning “Citrus Sunrise” tea for vitamin C. It’s got 120mg per serving.
Pecora, for corn cracked or not- put in large ziplocks, and rotate thru the freezer. then drop in a 5 gallon bucket or 55 gal drum that can be sealed….our feed stores has for around 8.50-10$per 50lbs. What is hydration hay?
Hydration Hay is a blend of quality grass and alfalfa that has been compressed into a convenient lightweight block. Simply drop the block into a bucket of water and it will quickly absorb water to make moist, palatable hay.
Six weeks since first injection.Four weeks since second injection. No reactions.
If this doesn’t fit anyone’s idea of what is real don’t worry.You’ll get over it
No reactions… is getting pissy a side effect?
Bummin, depends on which definition one uses.. “pissy” as irritable and irritating, or “pissy” as excessive urination from a diuretic… second one is not a side effect of an injection.
Bummin’,
I’m being good, but I can still lol, right? I mean, that was funny.
Vickie,
I am glad you are having no present side effects. You are lucky for now.I hope that continues.Meinwhile you should know what to do to prevent a cytokine storm.You should know how to treat the first symptoms, have those OTC’s on hand.
I have 2 ppl i know who took the jab one has had one and had to be hospitalized within 20 minutes. another had the second and had effects for several days that left her very weak and tired for 2 weeks.
Every person at work who got the 2nd shot had reactions. If this was being handled the normal way (with testing, etc.) it wouldn’t be approved because of the reaction numbers. Acceptable reaction numbers were something like 1 in 1000. Acceptable severe reaction numbers are much lower, 1 in 50,000 if I remember correctly (sorry if those numbers are wrong, I’m working off memory from a study I read years ago). They consider a certain number of severe reactions are going to happen, and just try to keep the numbers as low as possible.
Passing out, allergic reaction, anything requiring hospitalization, would be considered a severe reaction. From the people I know the severe reactions are running about 10%. Higher if you consider major flu-like symptoms to be “severe.” When someone is puking their guts out for three days, or is so dizzy they don’t trust themselves to drive, I consider that severe.
Vickie,
Same as my household.
The otherhalf, being medical, has taken both injections. No negative reactions, either.
She’s been ‘fixed’. So no reason for reproductive services.
I just wonder why she sleeps the weekends away, has no desires to go beyond the norm.
I wonder the outcomes when she will, in fact, have a possible contact with the various versions of the virus.
I wonder if you have thought the same?
Virus destroys the male reproductive.
Vaccinations destroy the female reproductive.
Weird.
My ‘FIL’ has had the first shot, already having reactions, ‘as if he has had the second shot’. Elderly diabetic. Has been exposed and diagnosed as a covid victim.
Yeah, I’m willing….for an experimental jab.
Glad you took one for the team, as they say.
Keep us informed of your progress.
I’ve been doing just fine,
without a jab.
NOT weird, PLanned population reduction.BG said it himself.
Yep,
Exactly
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And worldwide human populism reduction….
Just for an added…. kick
Howdy, MSB folks! I hope you have had a good weekend. Well, the big ice apocalypse seems to be fading fast. Most everyone in my area has power now. Still a few with plumbing issues that I have heard about, but for the most part it seems to be about over. Quick trip to the big town today and I found a decent amount of canning supplies. For that I was grateful, I took what I need to replenish my stock from last year and left the rest to others. Another batch of new chicks will be ordered in the morning from my local feed store as I am just about done completing renovations to the chicken coup. It’s the time of year to kill weeds and invasives that you don’t want in your lawns or hayfields. I noticed the prices on various livestock feed sure seems to have jumped up and diesel sure in on the rise. I went ahead and filled up all my fuel storage tanks. I have a feeling prices will be ridiculous again by summer. In closing, I sure learned a few new lessons during this last catastrophe. People seemed to fall into 2 categories: either I’ll get it done and get by or somebody please come save me. Fortunately most in my area took care of themselves. Goodnight to you all.
BG in TX,
Thanks for sharing some good news. Glad to hear you made it through, without ill effect. I’ve noticed that about the feed, too. Actually, just about everything seems to be increasing in price. Good idea about the fuel. Blessings to you and yours.
Up here in the north country where we are prepared for -20F it’s still a challenge; dead batteries, frozen toes, and so on. I can’t even begin to imagine what it would be like for Texans. We kept in touch with friends there and you all have our complete empathy. Good to hear you overcame.
Just Saying- hydration hay is from a company called Forage Solutions. I got it at Tractor Supply. The animals liked it and didn’t waste any of it. I got a 40 lb bag of cracked corn for around $7.50…cheaper than the deer corn they had at the same store. I’ll definitely get it put away in the freezer. Thanks for the suggestion. My mealworm colony for chickens is just getting established for supplemental feed.