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Ken –
The same could be said for respirators made in the good ‘ol USA at this point. Similar factories, very near to ours, make masks for the largest US medical supply companies.
tmcgyver –
Yes, especially if they’re made in a USA “hot zone”. Though much or all of China’s manufacturing centers are apparently “hot zones”.
I’d take the USA mask and take my chances – if I had a choice. But that’s just me. Plus, it supports the notion of USA self reliance – anti globalism. But that’s just me.
AGREED!
Hi All,
Do a search for “UF Health anesthesiology team devises respirator mask made from existing hospital materials”. They devised a plan for making masks that are better than N-95 respirators from discarded hospital materials (the wrapping that comes on surgical instruments). This is the sort of innovation what will help us get through the pandemic.
I keep a bottle of hand sanitizer in my car. With spring now here, my indoor car temperature will reach extreme temps. Is it possible the alcohol may evaporate this weaken the hand sanitizers effectiveness?
Rodger the answer is YES.
I keep the hand sanitizer in my pocket along with my ear loop mask replacement (if my first mask gets too wet from breathing). That way when NOT IF I touch something like a bathroom door handle I can give myself a dab of hand sanitizer. I also while my hands are wet from the dab rub the bottle as I DID touch it with dirty hands before I squirted that dab eh?
Yes the ear loop is not the best mask but it’s better than nothing AND reminds me to keep my hands away from my face. Dirty hands to mucus membranes (And that INCLUDES when you pee folks think about that) is the virus highway into your system.
Roger,
I have a couple of small UNOPENED bottles of hand sanitizer that have been in my truck for a couple of years and they are still filled to the max level indicating that nothing has evaporated.
Just opened one, smelled it and it had the same alcohol smell of a brand new bottle. After using some on my hands, it evaporated quickly just like new hand sanitizer does, indicating that the alcohol content is still there.
Red Dog Master sealed is good I agree however like a Gun Safe Queen during a Robbery does a sealed one in your vehicle help when you when your in Wal-Mart needing a dab of hand sanitizer?
Both Sanitizer and defensive weapons need to be useful?
me2 –
Gotta say… I spent 110 minutes on hold with CDC this afternoon, dreading the inevitable government incompetence. To my utter shock and amazement, I spoke with a native English speaker with an IQ above room temp. She did have to put me on hold to get an answer to my question. But she did exactly that and sent me away with exactly the answer I needed.
The domestic enemies of our country can howl all they want about the evils of the Orange Man… I predict a wave of suicides after election day.
tmcgyver sometimes you just get lucky! Actually there ARE many competent people working in the US Governmental agencies. It seems the worst get Promoted to their level of Incompetence and BEYOND.
And sadly that’s what directs the efforts of the rest of them.
When the Democratic party goes the way of the Whig Party or the “Know Nothings” of the socialists during the Great Depression I will celebrate.
Rome didn’t fall to the Visigoths, Traitors WITH IN Killed her first.
110 minutes on hold
if most of that time was wasted waiting for the call to be answered, why don.t we insist that establishments with long wait times offer to call you back when they are available?
[please leave your name and phone number and we will call you back a.s.a.p]
Yes, globalism is just another way of being totally disarmed in the face of trouble. Profits over people. History has shown that we can not trust China imports nor food products from central America (or worked by illegals on US farms)
Thank you Dennis for taking the time to read and reread my last posting.
I wouldn’t want someone thinking I’m “Implying” I was a druggie. BTW for those still unclear I am not a druggie. As a medical person I have had to discuss many things with Drug Patients and the police there to watch them in our ER’s for often days awaiting a Psych transfer. Thus I have a decent relationship and some friendship with local Police Officers.
And thus my own ears report about what the younger police are willing to do if things got bad for their families.
Already we have a legal concept called I think “Civil Forfeiture” where they can take cash, vehicles and so on, on the idea they *might* be drug related. AND the person has to go to Court and PROVE they are innocent to get ANYTHING back. And I thought maybe we were under the law “Innocent until Proven Guilty”?
I also know that very few police officers have done jail time for any violence they’ve done as the standard defense is “I was A feared For MY Life’ even though several events had videos show clearly the victim was ALREADY Cuffed and on the ground.
BOTH of the above paragraphs are during NORMAL TIMES where no fear of COVID19, no fear of not going to a Restaurant or finding my desired foods in the grocery store. No fear of being unemployed because I’m in quarantine. And so on.
A LOT of extra stressors than the above “Peacetime” incidents that are a tad concerning at least to myself.
I am pretty sure shooting a Real Police Officer during a no knock raid would also put you into prison OR at least the POOR House after paying for the Lawyer team IF you survived the shooting event.
My layered defenses are designed to stop known hostiles. My concern was that I would in effect unlock my gate and allow potentially rogue police team inside my secured area.
After all I do let my friends come in and visit.
Betrayal from a friend or a trusted authority figure is the hardest to plan for.
I clicked on the link and see Pelosi, then in the words just above her picture Maxine Waters is mentioned. Either one would qualify as “The Beast”, along with Hillary, Barbara Boxer, and Michelle. I wonder who it’ll be? LOL
hermit us,
Just thinking , if the food supply gets a little low perhaps the need for T P will diminish.
Think this is a question for “Plainsmedic”, or anyone else that’s done something similar….
I have several large bags of frozen jalapenos from last year’s garden. My original intent was to make cowboy/cowgirl candy with them, but when thawed they seem too mushy, so not sure I want to risk all the other ingredients on something likely to fail.
Plainsmedic talked about the “magic dust” he makes by dehydrating peppers and grinding them to powder in a blender. Do you think that will work with these mushy ones? Will it take forever for them to dry at this point? Any other ideas how to deal with thawed jalapeno peppers?
Thanks!
Finally OuttaCA,
I’ve only ever used fresh jalapeno from my garden. If you froze them fresh, I don’t know why it wouldn’t work in a dehydrater. The dehydrater should take all the “mush” out of them. Give it a try. I just cut them in half, length wise and put them on the trays. I use the highest temp. on the dehydrater. With fresh ones, it can take up to 12 hours. I usually do it in the garage, overnight.
Good luck and let us know how it worked.
Oh, and one more thing: I’ve got another batch of venison jerky, workin (4 pounds). I used approx. 2 1/2 tablespoons of magic dust, along with other seasonings. This will make ya reach for your drink and/or another piece of jerky. Rinse and repeat. This stuff is addictive.
@Plainsmedic
Thanks for the additional info, will have to clear a space in the garage, and will let you know how it goes!
FinallyOuttaCA;
I agree with Plainsmedic on the Magic Dust.
It should dehydrate fine. Make sure you get the peppers very VERY dry, and make dang sure you grind them OUTSIDE, not even in the garage.
Try a small batch, then test on a Ritz Cracker with Cream Cheese…..
Make darn sure you have a drink handy HAHAHAH
Stardust,
So glad to hear your daughter is doing better! Prayers continue for a quick return to full health.
Dennis, how is your daughter (as well as you and the rest of the family) doing today? Is everyone taking antivirals? Praying for your family as well….
Thank you!
I was just looking over my emails before heading off to sleep.
Two cut and pastes for your thoughts:
The U.S. Army is reaching out to gauge the interest of our retired officers, noncommissioned officers and Soldiers who would be willing to assist with the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic response effort should their skills and expertise be required.
These extraordinary challenges require equally extraordinary solutions and that’s why we’re turning to you — trusted professionals capable of operating under constantly changing conditions. When the Nation called — you answered, and now, that call may come again.
If interested and you remain qualified to serve in any of the following health care specialties: 60F: Critical Care Officer; 60N: Anesthesiologist; 66F: Nurse Anesthetist; 66S: Critical Care Nurse; 66P: Nurse Practitioner; 66T: ER Nurse; 68V: Respiratory Specialist; 68W: Medic – we need to hear from you STAT!
If you are working in a civilian hospital or medical facility, please let us know. We do not want to detract from the current care and treatment you are providing to the Nation.
While this is targeted at medical specialties, if you are interested in re-joining the team and were in a different specialty, let us know your interest.
WOW, Just WOW…….
Second cut and Paste:
Yesterday the Chair of the FDIC released an astonishing video asking Americans to keep their money in the bank.
Accompanied by soft piano music playing in the background, the official said:
“Your money is safe at the banks. The last thing you should be doing is pulling your money out of the banks thinking it’s going to be safer somewhere else.”
Amazing. I was half expecting her to waive her hand and say, “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for…”
Again WOW, just WOW.
The Army is sending out emails to retirees to come back into service for COVID19 and the aftermath.
The FDIC (the “insurance” on your banking accounts) is making a video telling us all is well, you should keep your money IN the Bank.
Folks if you don’t have two months CASH in your fireproof box AT Home (Not the Safe Deposit Box) you *might* be in a world of hurt.
Why am I *seeing* that Comic actor Nelson scene of a building exploding behind him and folks running for their lives while Nelson is saying “All is well, Nothing to see here, all is well”
Bad times coming.
me2
the government would never lie to us, if they say it’s true it must be true (insert overly sarcastic tone here)
In all seriousness just looked up that video….truly terrifying. Could we see a bank run in the not too distance future? Last I read most average size banks hold around 50k-200k at any given time. Wouldn’t take too many people to dry that up, then what? Scary stuff
rb308 can you say Bank Holiday And-OR Credit Freeze up OR maybe simply Hyperinflation where WAY Too Many Dollars are chasing that loaf of bread.
The Fed has been given a Green Light to BUY every bad loan AND Over Indebted Stock using OUR “Full Faith” of the US Taxpayer.
GEE that CANNOT dump billions-trillions of extra dollars into the already warped and free money addicted system……
Nothing like dumping MOAR Gasoline on a dumpster fire. Instead of simply taking the pain NOW like ripping off the Band-Aid and working our way out of it. No WAY folks those Companies PAY for the Re-election and Slush Fund of our “Elected Leadership”.
You know HONORABLE Folks like Democratic Senator Feinstein that was busted for SELLING her Stocks just before the COVID19 melt down… Gee NO Insider Information there huh…. All in a “Blind Trust” but oddly curious as ALL through her Career She has been *Ah* Blessed with excellent foresight in her stock market efforts.
The Wealthy and the Politicians that the Wealthy BUY will do well unless a total collapse of the USA. The common Joe and Jill will be the tax donkeys forced to pay for all this “Free Money”. If not by outright Taxes and Retirement Savings “Forced” into US DEBT Opps, Treasuries (same thing BTW debt at a fixed rate THEY CHOOSE) to “Protect” us from the Stock market….
Or just Inflation reducing the rest of the US Dollars value into nothingness. Not a bad gig run up Trillions of dollars of DEBT where 2 dollars buys a Loaf of decent bread and then DEVALUE the Dollar until it takes 4-5 Dollars for that loaf of not so decent bread….
Worked for our first socialist President Roosevelt when he outlawed private ownership of gold USED by folks to Protect themselves from Bank Failures forcing folks to sell it at the 20.00 rate
(CUT and PASTE here) On March 9, 1933 Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) called Congress in for an emergency session, which would result in the speedy passing of the Gold Confiscation Act. According to FDR’s Executive Order (6102) the Act would “provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes”.
The law required all citizens to hand over to the government via the banks almost all gold coins (US and foreign), bullion (bars, nuggets, dust, etc) and gold certificates within a few weeks after the order was issued. A short eight months after the confiscation a new piece of Federal legislation, the Gold Reserve Act, was enacted. The Gold Reserve Act revalued gold versus the dollar. In theory, a 1934 $20 gold coin would then be equivalent to 35 paper dollars. This was a substantial difference in that the value of the paper dollar prior to the Gold Confiscation Act was much less.
YES we have Trump BUT we ALSO have a congress full of traitors willing and eager to feather their nest even more before things fall apart. Did you not SEE the bull*hit the Democrats are forcing into the COVID19 Bailout package…. Never let a good crisis go to waste as Democrats are apt to say.
Revaluation of the real value of the dollar. That’s ONE way to reduce the REAL COST ™ of all those Social Security promises and such.
Bad times coming. Governments 1st priority is Stay in Power. 2nd priority please see 1st.
The WINNER of a Greater Depression is a family that has shelter, food, safe water means to produce both of these, some energy production and ability to pay their TAXES as not to have Gov. Goons with Guns take their stuff away as they DID during the Great Depression.
Taxes and Debts WERE Paid during the Great Depression. These Bailout programs are taxable events and or loans. Laws to stop banks from reprocessing your car and home is a DELAY. The failure of the Banking System due to unpaid loans will not be permitted.
The window of preparation is closing fast. Even Amazon is getting less responsive to orders and deliveries. It will only get harder and less reliable as COVID19 and social violence from shortages keeps truckers away from deliveries.
Me2
You and I don’t always agree, but, this is a good post.
The storm ain’t just coming, it’s already here.
Thanks Stand my Ground that means a lot to me.
Your a good guy and I hope someday we will meet after the Chaos is done.
Probably in Heaven.
Hermit us
I think you will find that most all paper productions have ceased in this country!
In NH and Vt there were many paper mills in years past, now they are all gone.
Vt drove a lot out with both taxes and enviromental issues. One in E Ryegate Vt closed over a union versus management dispute, mill closed, paper making equipment sold,and the building torn down!
In NH Berlin was a huge paper making town,several generations worked in the mills. Now it is all gone not even the buildings remain!
Every mill that I can remember has met the same fate.
So now our Tp is made somewhere else, don’t know ware but I will lay odds it is in a third world country that has no EPA!
NORTH WOODS
I did a very quick search on paper mills in the US. It appears that there are several hundred still in operation. I don’t know how many make TP or paper towels but, I am sure they can be modified into production of needed products just like FORD now making ventilators.
There is a Large paper mill making TP in Charleston TN near Chattanooga. They switched to TP when the need for newsprint dropped off.
UkTn
That is good news to hear from your section of the USA.
Welcome believe it is your first time posting here.
I was told by a store manager that the people buying mass quantities are doing it in anticipation of making a big profit reselling it.
I can’t hardly believe that I am able to invest in a market 25% below the top. It’s like stealing candy from a baby. There such good times ahead of all the things I’ve read about what people are doing to cope, I am totally WOW’d! This is going to be good.
Chevy,
Wait for the bottom, be patient. We are still not there yet. I am with you, there is going to be one heck of an opportunity to buy into the market if you have funds, and secure a nest egg for your future. timing is everything.
minerjim
Yesterday and today have seen good gains in the market. Dividends and bonds not so much. I’m holding like I did in 2008-9 until the full bounce back.
I see the only way to keep up with inflation is to be in the same rising market or in fixed assets that will not depreciate – like vehicles, electronics, ….
So, I play their game on their dime and if it all goes to hell, I will survive – but I pity the unprepared living in places like NY city.
Always a dead cat bounce around the corner, but I factor that in. I have been dollar cost averaging for years and continue to do so. But when this market is this low it’s like shooting fish in a barrel (which I’ve never done). I am aware of the market timing concept but it can be risky. I bought into an escalating fund years ago and on a whim I sold it the week before it collapsed. Lucky for me, unlucky for some others and not a good investing strategy for anyone.
Chevy and Minerjim
If you want to invest then I suggest you take a good look at what stocks did well during the crash of 2008. Hint most of them were large cap and provided necessities like food and energy.
That way you have a educated guess just how far down even the good stocks can go and set up Options to buy at that set price.
If this situation resolves and somehow we survive the traitors in Congress you will do very well.
ME2,
yeah. No I don’t invest money myself. What I have, I have with good investment people. Being an engineer, I have a tendency to ‘want to do it all myself’. Nope. not falling into that trap with my savings. Let the finance people do the investing, that is their forte. Mine is engineering and project management. I watched my late father (an engineer also) try to invest for retirement, he lost it all and basically died broke.(Mom had to rely on social security with us kids helping out where we could). I swore to my DW then and there I would not follow his footsteps. I was able to find a good investment company with a long, strong, conservative reputation. They touch base with me quarterly and let me know what is going on, get my feedback, and work accordingly.
Minerjim
Your comments are very true. Expertise in one area does not transfer to all areas. Many successful people fail to make that realization and try to make decisions without consulting someone who they trust that works in that field. That is one reason I read the comments here on MSB, because of the range of experience of the commenters.
I am not that knowledgeable to make stock picks so I stick exclusively with index funds. “Traitors in congress”? That is a very hyperbolic accusation. The marketplace wields much more power than congress and is by far more capable of unethical practices than they are.
Chevy WHO do you think PASSED the Laws allowing, nay encouraging companies to ship our manufacturing of medical supplies and just about everything else Overseas?
Congress maybe?
Oh and they were PAID by those companies by “Campaign Donations and other slush fund monies. Did you miss my cut and paste that Boeing in 2018 paid a NEGATIVE 1.7% federal tax? Seems buying Senators pays good dividends.
OH RIGHT, Boeing is getting a huge chunk of that COVID19 emergency stimulus package according to MSN-CNN and such. Such a Deal!
The Marketplace doesn’t pass laws they BUY the Lawmakers to pass laws they want.
If it walks like a duck…..
me2 WHO do you think VOTED for those congress men & women?
Voters maybe?
The Constitution was conceived by people who were not naive about the inherent nature of power to corrupt and designed the document to deprive government of obstructing our God-given natural rights. The government gets away with what you call treason because the people do not hold them accountable to their oath. Don’t pass the buck.
The Marketplace and the stock market are two different ducks with different quacks.
Chevy I am open to hear your ideas as how to get the Congress folks to do their proper and lawful duty.
Oh yeah, they write and rewrite laws don’t they? I suppose none of those rewrites are to CYA their actions maybe? Like Virginia’s new laws making it essentially IMPOSSABLE to have a Recall on Governor Blackface and it seems an attempt was made to make it a CRIME to make fun of our elected officers? Maybe I should look that up and see if that passed also.
I vote for the person, not the party.
I write letters, emails and in general am well known to my Congress folks. I get the nicest Dear Citizen letters from their computer software in return. However I notice at best IF I use a phone number they don’t know is mine at best I get a Jr. staffer and then THAT phone number also goes into the “Leave a Message” file.
I call them as I see them Chevy. Those that sell out our country for personal profit and power are Traitors.
Webster’s cut and paste:
Traitor.
NOUN
.
a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc..
“they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy”
synonyms:
betrayer · back-stabber · double-crosser · double-dealer · renegade · Judas · quisling · fifth columnist · viper · turncoat · defector · apostate · deserter · collaborator · fraternizer · colluder · informer · double agent · snake in the grass · two-timer · rat · scab · traditor · tergiversator · renegade
I respect your opinions Chevy, I enjoy your comments but I hope you can hear the hard truths that is supported by facts.
Rome didn’t fall to the Visigoths Hordes, it was already Killed (Murdered) by the Traitors with in it’s Senate.
Time will tell soon enough if our Republic can survive it’s Traitors.
me2,
Made me look it up,
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tergiversate
[ˈtərjəvərˌsāt, ˌtərjəˈvərˌsāt]
VERB
make conflicting or evasive statements; equivocate.
“the more she tergiversated, the greater grew the ardency of the reporters for an interview”
synonyms:
prevaricate · be evasive · be noncommittal · be vague · be ambiguous · [more]
change one’s loyalties; be apostate.
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Chevy,
You are pretty naive if you think most voters have any idea what their CONgress critters do while in DC.
This is why we need term limits, no more ongoing benefits. We need CONgress to have a housecleaning. It was never meant to be a decades long career and certainly not meant to be a way to get rich!
$11,000,000,000 for foreign development funds,,,,,,,
What exactly does that have to do with American workers or companies?
That would give $7,000+ To every man, woman and child in our state
Chuckling Dennis beware of the Webster’s Wormhole. It’s almost as bad as the Search Engine wormhole when I am called to dinner and forgot what I was looking for on the web entirely.
How are you and your family doing? Has that COVID19 scare resolved and all is well I pray?
Is it starting seeds time in your grow zone yet? I suspect that I’ll find plenty of folks willing to trade me for my early tomatoes, rosemary and sage starts I generally make too many of.
I normally like to stay as organic as I can but I’m picking up a bag+ of potato fertilizer 8-24-24 as most fertilizers have too much Nitrogen and you get scads of leaves but few potatoes. Works very well on sweet potatoes also. Will also think about potato dusts as the Colorado beetle eats them up around here.
What’s your survival garden looking like friend?
me2,
Family is fine. Daughter still symptomatic, but seems fairly mild (probably not to her). No word back from test, but so far 32 tested in our county, 16 negative COVID-19, 16 positive.
So far as the garden, we haven’t dried out in months and it’s looking like rain right now. Normally we only sprout tomato and peppers, and plant seed for the rest.
Dandelion, broad leaf and long leaf plantain, clover, and other edibles are coming up in the pasture though. Blackberries, dewberries, and wild strawberries are putting out leaves. Deer, wild turkeys, and squirrels are plentiful, not to mention hog and bear. Chickens are laying good after our talk, got five young roosters ready for the pot/freezer. Can make it to the fall on what’s in the store room. Springs are a runnin’, life is good on the mountain.
Kulafarmer writes to Chevy: ”
You are pretty naive if you think most voters have any idea what their CONgress critters do while in DC.”
I don’t know what Chevy guy you are responding to, but it wasn’t me as I didn’t say anything to which you are referring. And to slam somebody with “you’re pretty naive” is the equivalent of sneaking out the back door when the truant officer shows up.
Anyone with an ingrained negative attitude, like yourself, is incapable of grasping the concept that it can be made to work. Everything positive is “naive”, you have programmed yourself to live in a cage of your own construction. I live and think outside the cage.
Chevy
You are entitled to your opinion,,,
That ill give ya,
From experience, when i hit a nerve like that, is usually pretty close to spot on
“Hit a nerve”; you’ve manufactured your own justification for your observation that you are “spot on”, and I called you on it. That is what it is.
By the way, I didn’t feel anything.
Invest in companies that make things, mine things and move things.
Ken,
couple of suggestions for some articles/posts. Or, I think you likely have articles on this, maybe re post said articles to refresh our minds/help us out?
-tips on home security which can be jury rigged up “now”, and maybe not some techie installed security (which may now be hard to get or un affordable for many)
-tips on which seeds can be safely sprouted at home, and instructions for doing so safely
-tips on which foods can be “re grown” at home and how (seems to me bok choy was recently mentioned, and there are others)
Jane Foxe my first replanted Bok Choy from April 30th has already yielded me a nice side dish (cut and grow again) of Bok Choy. The second one I rooted and planted on March 13th (yes the dreaded Friday the 13th) is doing well and I expect a side dish from it in about 2 weeks.
This in a fairly cold modest sunshine window. Not a huge amount but I had used up Bok Choy I could have sent to the compost bin and plenty of compost to use so….
BTW from what Kulafarmer said and what I read Bok Choy is a cool weather plant that BOLTS into seed pods when heat stressed. I have a northern side of my home that still has snow while all else melted so maybe that will be my warm weather Bok Choy patch?
I will save the bolted Bok Choy seeds.
I think if I had about 48 Bok Choy I could get a side dish for me and my beloved every day at the current rate of growth. Maybe I should try cloning them with a large leaf and rooting hormone? I have almost half the window space needed for them unless I built racks to stack them.
Other thoughts and suggestions friends? A lot of gardeners out there.
me2..thanks. Meant to pick one up, so I could try but forgot. Am going to give it a try.
Jane Foxe I decided to try out the rooting hormone on a large Bok Choy Leaf from my first planted stub.
When I tried to look it up on the internet no information if it can be done, so hopefully in about a week I’ll have a report.
Would be super cool to take ONE supermarket Bok Choy, eat it plan the stub and continue to cut and grow again harvest it AND maybe clone it with it’s leaves.
Time will tell, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
me2 === yup, really would be super cool, agree.
re rooting hormone (keep in mind I have a brown thumb, not a green thumb), I think I remember reading that some ground up aspirin, will act as rooting hormone.
look forward to reports on your success.
Me2,
They seperate the base of a banana plant into about 50 pieces and propagate them in trays until they are big enough to plant. Watched some great videos from banana farms in Asia explaining how they do it. Never knew that was possible until I watched them a few weeks ago.
Just wondering if you could take the base of the plant and maybe cut into quarters. Maybe use the rootone to see if it would take. I’m not a horticulturist so I don’t know if it is possible but it would make a great experiment. We have some in our refrigerator. Think I will try it.
Let us know if the leaf works…
Good Morning Bill Jenkins Horse and Jane Foxe. I replied early this am when my beloved was taking care of a 94 year Old’s emergencies but seems it never got through? Maybe a accidental link? Sorry Ken for the extra work you do so much for us already. This one will be a different post.
Anyway a repeat about Aspirin (ASA) as rooting hormone. One baby ASA crushed in a liter-quart of non-chlorinated water OR about a standard ASA crushed in a gallon or 3-4 liters non-chlorinated water mixed well. Good for a day or so as your doing mass rooting’s.
Willow is the base of ASA as it’s bark contains it. A couple of willow trees growing on a preppers property is a VERY GOOD thing. A handful of Green shoots can be chopped up in a bucket of non-chlorinated water and used as rooting hormone. The bark can be dried and crushed for willow bark tea for pain relief, topical uses as a soppy rag laid on a painful hand or knee also helps. The flexible long young limbs make excellent baskets and even planting pots. Willow responds very well to coppicing (look it up) a form of cut and grow again tree use.
Willow charcoal is well thought of as useful in black powder making, Poison Control taken as a powder and as well as water filtration. Using a steel paint can (you can reuse cleaned ones OR buy them new at paint stores) with a vent hole in the lid you fill the can with packed chunks of wood, place on the lid and place in a fire. Once the process starts you will see the vent hole has a flame from the flammable gasses being driven out. Once that stops the process is done. Remove carefully, let cool and you have charcoal in a small batch. Buy or secure a couple as they eventually will be destroyed making charcoal.
BJH please see my posting to Just Sayin’ and Dennis about Moringa Trees. Looks like an awesome addition to a preppers Gardening quiver. Easy-quick growing. Massive nutritional profile in Vit C and B complexes but needs to be protected from cold weather via pots like the Victorian English Gardeners do BUT I do that for my figs trees anyway. And several well proven medical benefits especially for our old *Friend* Mr. Arthritis.
BJH I will attempt that banana division trick on my next Bok Choy. A VERY Useful idea, thanks. I bet that kind of thinking was how my Grandmother did so well during the Great Depression with her plant sales and gardening starts.
They *Still* had to Pay their TAXES and Debts or lose the homestead. Plan for that friends.
me2 — thank you for info.
me2
If the base of Bok Choy is similar to celery, yes you can plant it into the garden. The base will have to be kept wet/moist until you plant it. I take the base of celery from the store set it in a clear cup with enough water to coat the bottom. Then keep it moist(when I remember)when new shoots start up you can plant in to medium for the garden.
It depends on the plant. Some kind of plants will put down roots from a leaf (although not all easily or quickly). For others any piece of stem will do. Some require a piece of the INSIDE of the leaf. For bok choy (or any other brassica) I suspect you’ll need some kind of a root bud no matter how you do it. The plant just deteriorates too fast for the internal systems to decide they need to put down roots any other way. Look for tiny white nubs at the base of the leaf or on the stem.
It doesn’t hurt to try. Asprin and willow shoots soaked in water will also provide rooting hormone. Consider cutting the stem into two or more pieces as well. If you’re looking for seeds and not growth that will give you more plants, but with a higher failure rate.
Are people still making grocery runs? Wife and I have been going once a week (taking serious precautions) and every time we say it will be the last trip for a while. Main reason for going is for fresh produce, milk, eggs, etc. otherwise we’d be good for months. Feel like we’re at that tipping point where things are about to get a lot worse real quick. We were thinking about making one last run this week. Everyone’s situations are a little different but just curious where people are at with this?
rb308
no ! I prepped for years to minimize my risks in the event of many such circumstances as this . eggs ive got powdered , milk ive got dried , fresh greens i sprout and have freeze dried and dehydrated . I am waiting this out until the all clear or I run out of supply’s . My situation is far from perfect but see no need to add risk when the true size of what we are dealing with is unknown or being concealed by the people in high places .
bill posters, you and everyone else who has done what you’ve done and are doing should be commended for not only taking care of your own but you’ve also alleviated the stress on the market due to all those who lacked the same care and foresight.
Still making supply runs to the base. Filling in daughters pantry as they settle into this. Also dropping off stuff for grandkids to try and keep normalish.
rb308
Our state is a stay at home, but can make runs on groceries, fuel, essential employment. FWTB is still working, while I’m on layoff for three weeks.
Yeah, we could get by without running to the store, but I look at it this way. Taking precautionary measures, She’s still being exposed. If we still are able to have the ability to get essentials, we will get them and rotate…..and we don’t leave with overloaded carts….or two 12 packs of TP. There may come a time when a person might not be able to restore used stocks.
Joe’s not a Horder, just thinking beyond tomorrow.
rb308
My wife and I have adopted the same strategy as you. Once a week we will go to the local grocery store in the early am to pick up some “luxury” items like fresh fruit and veggies that we don’t have put up. We are prepared to stay out of stores if we have to in the future but for now, our local small town Piggly Wiggly is still getting what they need and so far no cases in our county.
Haven’t figured out how to grow bananas in Zone 8/9! And too lazy to raise and slaughter pigs…for now!
rb308…
Am I still making grocery store runs? I don’t think so. As of today, our county is supposed to stay at home for a month. Grocery stores are still open. I’m working from home now, so we’re not already out and getting exposed in any way. A part of me says that I should just eat from my larder for a month; it’s good practice for “end times,” and I don’t need to get exposed. Another part of me says that who knows what worse thing is coming next, so I shouldn’t use up my goods and I should continue to get stuff and just keep rotating. (Besides, fresh milk would be nice!) Right now, I’m leaning towards not going out at all.
We have made some fresh runs too taking precautions. I take my alcohol wipes and a wipe items as they go in the basket while I am in the store and wipe when I come home. My county has 15 cases. One of the big factories here had 3 office people exposed from a mgf rep that tested positive.
We will stay home now for several days.
We have a slightly different strategy: Instead of replenishing on the fresh produce and milk, which we COULD do, although at some risk, we are determined to tough it out with our stock on hand and are learning valuable lessons while doing it.
Frankly its not too much of a sacrifice at all, and we have three generations under our roof at this time, and for a few months yet!
I count my blessings for being at least a smidge more preparedness minded than the numbskulls out there on the web berating “hoarders” for their own lack of toilet paper.
Here we go!
New cases in my town. Several doctors are infected. Local hospital is under siege. One of the doctors is member of crisis management group in town. We have today visit from government. We will see what will happen. So far we have not serious ill patients. Not yet dead cases. Government will shut down everything. All non vitall activities will be forbidden.
This hospital is main and only hospital in area with 200 000 people. No yeast anymore in shops. Very few flour. Internet is very slow. In next 15 days will be breaking point. If grid goes down we will be in doomsday scenario. I hope so it will not happen.
Pretty grim situation.
Veteran before you lose the internet look up how to make yeast using potatoes.
If you happen to have dwarf fruit trees (normally less than 12-15 feet or about 4 meters in your measurements) or large fruit bushes like we discussed the old sheets trick will help for light frosts, adding the charcoal burner for even severe frosts. What commercial apple farmers do can help but they don’t have the man power and with commercial insurance feel the need to do “extreme protection” efforts like the charcoal burners.
Small holders that are needing to EAT what they grow can find the manpower to save their crops.
Good luck and God Bless you for reporting what WE are ABOUT to see here in America.
Veteran, look up sour dough bread or put some flour and water outside to capture the wild natural yeast in the air. Rye flour does better if you have some. I have used potato water too. It will bubble if the yeast are present.
If you still have yeast, make a yeast “culture” by putting a pinch of yeast in water and flour. Let it grow, when it’s all bubbly add flour and let it grow again until there’s enough to make a loaf of bread (about 1 cup) then use half of it, feed it again and put it away until the next time. I put mine in the refrigerator, since I only make bread about once a week.
That way you can stretch your existing yeast indefinitely, and possibly sell or give away to others who have run out.
Thank you Lauren an excellent suggestion. I’m adding this to my survival binder.
rb308
no ! I prepped for years to minimize my risks in the event of many such circumstances as this . eggs ive got powdered , milk ive got dried , fresh greens i sprout and have freeze dried and dehydrated . I am waiting this out until the all clear or I run out of supply’s . My situation is far from perfect but see no need to add risk when the true size of what we are dealing with is unknown or being concealed by the people in high places .
sorry double post 🙁
Modern Throwback,
Thank you!
Very interesting idea with fire wooden posts. Now is to late but next time I will try it!
NPR, even the Amish are feeling the pain of empty shelves. Yesterday I went to pickup a wheat and oats order only to hear than none of her grain was received. No TP either or a few others things she was waiting on. Only about half of her canned goods made it in. I suggested she continue to place larger orders each week in the hopes of getting some of what she wants. The Amish shop like we do at the local markets and even Wally and Sam’s. Then they pick up fillers at the local,Amish shop. They are hurting too.
We don’t have rioting but theft is high right now just outside our rural community. Just wait till all the released felons cannot get what they need to live.
Just some perspective on the pandemic
“The governments around the world have shut down the world economy for two months due to the coronavirus. These efforts which may have economic ramifications for years to come are in response to the Wuhan coronavirus which hasn’t yet killed as many people worldwide as the flu killed in America this year.”
Yes, it is serious and deadly for some, but I have to pass on a saying I read about over reaction to a crisis “don’t burn the house down to kill spiders”
Per BBC and numerous world media the Trump administration picked today to have another go at Nicholas Maduro — some conspiracy to “flood the US with cocaine” or whatever-the-hell. Really!? Is this just more 6-dimensional chess? Or does this man actually have a stripped gear in his brain?
Bill Jenkins Horse
If could give us the cache data without revealing personal information it would be a help to us.
I see others have posted the same request on this subject. The more detailed the better as it will come down to me doing the caching. As you are aware dh is unable to assist me, so I have the head chief’s job so to speak.
If you are able to do this a big thank you ahead of time from us.
ac/acdh
A simple observation and comment.
More and More Nations/Countries are starting to Horde their food supplies.
Just a little food for thought.
NRP,
You starting those Ghost Chile seeds in flats yet??? Almost time to get seedlings going for our area. I am hoping the Chinese Skullcap seed I bought has good germination. Tomatoes too. Spring in the Rocky Mountain deserts.
Hey Minerjim,
The wife and I, well mostly the wife, started several different pepper seeds a while back. Ghost Chile was among them, also Thia something or other and banana pepper and bell, and…….
I usually cheat and buy tiny plants. Thinking they might not be available this year. Same way with tomato. We, well mostly she, planted lots of seeds in flats. Mostly heirloom seeds that I’ve had for a while and some hybrid. Let’s face it, hybrid produces bigger and better, but we’ll be thrilled if we get whatever. We tried hard to keep the seeds/hopefully plants well marked. I’m definitely planning to collect seeds from any successful heirlooms. We’ve done it before, so we can do it again.
Plainsmedic,
We usually cheat too and buy starts from our neighbor with a greenhouse around the corner. She normally sells at the farmer’s markets. this year I am starting a bunch of medicinal herbs in flats. I have a heat mat with a controller that I used to use to get grapevine cuttings to callus and root. that should keep nice warmth under the flats of seedlings. I’ll also start some tomatoes and cabbage too. Have not had a lot of luck the past couple of years, the weather can be funky here on the western Rocky Mountain desert . I am thinking of throwing up a small Hoop house for the pepper and tomatoes to see if I can do any better. Potatoes will get row planted in a couple of weeks. Tending to heirloom plants on everything, so I can save seed for next year. I will also be sowing a bunch of open pollenated carrot seed I have saved over the past couple of years. wonder how many carrots I can get from 5# of seed?
Minerjim;
” wonder how many carrots I can get from 5# of seed?”
I have to tell ya, I purchase Bulk Seeds form Rare Seeds.
I got one pound of Carrot Seeds…. I will NEVER need to buy Carrot Seeds again in my lifetime……
PS: Beet Seeds, I got two pounds…. OMG what WAS I thinking????
Plainsmedic I know it’s early to start tomatoes out your way, sure is here in NH.
Did you see my post to Veteran about growing an early tomato or three and cloning them for strong quick starts when it’s time? Cuttings are easy. You can even do peppers that way. Some folks actually overwinter a pepper plant they like for cuttings next spring. Most cuttings take about two weeks to root up and about a week or so of hardening off gradually before planting them.
Hope this helps.
Most hybrids are created from heirlooms. F1 hybrids are a combination of 2 heirlooms. So if you plant the seeds from your hybrids, the 2nd generation seeds will segregate into F2 hybrids (with various characteristics similar to the F1) and plants that take after the heirloom grandparents. The descendants will always have some of the F1 characteristics because the genetics are there, but re-crossing into the same lines will eventually weed those out.
Plant breeders over many generations have perpetuated the myth that you can’t get anything good from an F2 hybrid, but the hybrid gets its genetics from the heirloom parents.
Lauren yes you can save seeds from hybrids.
Cut and paste:
There is quite a bit of misinformation out there about saving seeds. Again and again I read the pronouncements online that you can’t save seed from hybrid plants. This simply is not true. You can save seed from hybrid plants or from plants that have been cross pollinated. It is important to note, however, that the plants you grow from these saved seeds will carry the genetics from both ‘parents’ and may display different characteristics than you are expecting. If you are interested in growing heirloom seeds that grow true to type each year, check out my post (I removed the link)
Although most gardeners like to know what they’ll get when they plant seeds, there are pros to planting the seed from cross pollinated and hybrid plants. For starters, you could come up with a brand new variety of pumpkin, radish, or green bean. Plant breeders have worked for ages to develop new varieties of fruits and vegetables that produce better, resist disease, and bear earlier.
*AGES Folks to breed the very BEST Heirlooms that could be done. I’ve visited seed farms. They use serious Bio-protection to prevent odd pollination and otherwise damage their products reliability.*
The Downside
Although the prospect of developing new varieties of plants sounds pretty exciting, it is likely that you’ll grow quite a few less than desirable veggies in the process. Many seeds available are hybrids (plants with two or more parent varieties) that bear earlier, produce more, or hold their quality longer in shipping. When you plant the seeds from these hybrids, the new generation will revert back to the parent varieties. These may not have the best flavor, production, or space saving qualities. However, if you save the seed from the best plants each year, you can eventually come up with a brand new variety. Once the offspring continually show the same characteristics of the parents, you have a new variety
So how many YEARS can you plant and HOPE you get a decent harvest while Developing your OWN variety? If for example a Winter Squash was developed for robust growing and excellent keeping in a cool dark place loses that “Keeping” gene for something that rots in a few weeks LIKE most Summer Squashes for example.
Is that a Good thing when you had placed them into the basement for this winter?
What about time from planting to harvest? That’s a new variable that brings in concerns IF the crop will be harvestable BEFORE the Frosts?
Many a dirt farmer’s family Starved to death BECAUSE of bad seeds. It’s difficult enough to worry about bad soil (compost piles friends compost piles NOW) bad weather (get some ways to get water for the garden if the power goes out or your well gets low, Raised Beds for too wet areas), methods of protecting the garden via hoops and plastic maybe?) and animal pests.
Please keep some honest PROVEN Heirloom seeds in your quiver. Protect them from random and semi-random crosses. If this COVID19-Goverment overreaction drives us into a Greater Depression or worse Venezuela THOSE Seeds maybe very important to you AND your Children.
Lauren I love to experiment but I also know that locally seeds are vaporizing from Wal-Mart and such. Like Ken’s article “When the Trucks STOP” the seeds you have MAYBE the Seeds you Have.
Darn. I guess I’ll just keep on keeping the seeds from what I grow as I’ve done consistently for most of my life.
Oh, and those f1 hybrids that segregated out to create new “varieties” so that they actually grow in my soil? I’ll keep growing them as well, and they’ll continue to thrive.
I don’t often purchase “variety” seeds, since they very simply die in my conditions. And when you don’t have the special soils, and the lights, and the heat mats, and your seedlings die because that’s what they’ve been bred for over many years, my seeds will keep on keeping on and feeding me.
M2/Lauren
Something to note
If you grow a sample of a hybrid and the parent plants and cross pollinate all of them Then save the seeds and do the same you may get to an F2 hybrid that then will reproduce true, not 100% on this but am pretty sure thats the method, the seed on the hybrid if it was crossed with both parent varieties will produce an F2 or second generation. Tricky stuff crossing plants.
@Kula, depends on the plant. Tomatoes, for example, primarily self pollinate and generally any crosses are deliberate. If you take those F1 tomatoes and deliberately cross them back, yes you can quickly get to a stable variety. Other plants need a minimum of 7 generations of inbreeding (deliberately selfing or crossing siblings) before they are considered a new (stable) variety.
Personally I would rather duplicate what our ancestors did and have enough variety to survive variations in environment. It’s why I got into landrace gardening in the first place. Because of the obsession with “varieties” our food crops have lost as much as 95% of their genetic variation in the last hundred years.
Lauren,
Thank you for that.
Since prepping sites began to come into vogue, and with that, a proliferation of new “experts” on survival gardening, I’ve marveled at the amount of bad information concerning hybrids. Seems as if many of these new “experts” confuse “genetically modified” with “hybrid”.
@Dennis, agreed. There are way too many misunderstandings out there in regards to plants.
The GMO issue is only confusing things more.
Lauren your seed breeding success are wonderful and I applaud you for them. I also remember your honesty about some of your failures.
Could you mention to the general audience the first years failures of your experiments as so folks could understand that they DO occur?
When there is the grocery store full of food a failure is an annoyance.
Lauren,
Hehehe.
I like your spunk.
The worst “failure” in regards to seed saving has to be the onions. And it wasn’t really a failure as such. Apparently the hybrid variety I got had a strong “spring onion” ancestor. Rather then bulbing up, ALL of the seedling onions developed like green onions. Even 2nd generation there were only a few bulbs. But they were still onions, with a good flavor. I moved on to other things, but I still grow the descendants of that first attempt. This year I have someone else’s grex that I’m going to start playing with. 🙂
The other “failure” was due to my own stupidity and I would call it a setback rather than a failure. I started my watermelon landrace and included a small variety in the first generation–I’d never grown these varieties before so I didn’t know their habits. This small (ice-box size) variety turned out to be a slow grower. While it had male blossoms (and thus, pollen) throughout the season, it didn’t set fruit until early October. I decided to eliminate it, but it was contributing pollen so many of the next generation were small and slow growing.
This is only in regards to landrace gardening–when doing a simple garden, most people who know the basics of seed saving aren’t going to run into this.
I have yet to run into a “failure” in flavor, although growth habits and appearance can be unpredictable when mixing varieties. I keep seeds from the strongest and those that have traits I like, knowing that progeny are likely going to take after their parents. For example, I harvest my zucchini at about 12-18 inches. The skin is still soft at that point. It’s been bred for that (albeit accidentally over 30+ years). Last year I planted a named “variety” that actually started hardening while it still had the blossom on it! Scratch that one! I don’t want those genes!
If it tastes good and grows well under my conditions, I’m not too picky. “Failures” are primarily (in my experience) a result of expectations in appearance and growth habit rather than actual food value or taste.
Minerjim;
Have graduated to Carolina Reaper Peppers…. 1,641,000 Scoville Heat Units.
But yes, this is the weekend for Planting Starts, will probably take most of the weekend
Figuring on a minimum of 260 pots, I like to use Dixie Cups.
Plainsmedic;
I agree finding Starts at the stores may be difficult this year.
That Thai Something probably is a Thai Dragon, rather hot but a fantastic flavor.
ALL;
time to hunker down and get those Gardens done.
NRP & Blue
I’m thinking you’re growing those Carolina Reapers to use for self defense measures. Kinda like pepper spray only more potent.
If not, and you’re really planning on ingesting them, then 600 rolls of TP may *not* be enough!
Chipmunk;
Naw, I just invite the “bad guys” in for a bowl of Chili…. Only takes one bite, completely incapacitated HAHAHA
The Reapers are for occasional flavoring only, and of course the Beer Blast hot pepper challenge that always occurs when ya get a bunch of Mucho Cowboys trying to impress that Ladies. Gata have fun watching the young bucks strut their stuff ya know… LOLOL
NRP,
You said “Yes I know (ham) ok understood.” I agree with your assessment. I value your opinion, so the path is obvious.
awka72
Moving pet adoption thread over to open forum. I had a similar experience. Seems like when a dog is turned in at the local shelters here, it becomes theirs in perpetuity. They may deign to let you take it home but it’s never really yours. So I went to a neighboring state and adopted my Cookie and Xander from a shelter there. They were delighted someone wanted these knuckleheads. I couldn’t be happier.
Sorry I have not posted in a while. I am still going to work within a hospital and my ID badge is my passport for essential travel outside my home. My state is in : “soft lockdown”. My wife is also showing up for work at her facility and so we return home to our well stocked home and eat home cooked meals after changing clothes and washing up.
We have always had a good supply of products on hand within our home though the machines that we have been using recently have been: the dishwasher, the washer and drier, and we have been using detergents for both washing machines. These are the things I stocked up on in my garage where I once parked my truck. The truck is now outside in the driveway.
Though TP has been hard to find, I have been able to find facial tissue and we are using a lot because of seasonal allergies for my wife and self. They work fine on the “other end” though one must remember to not flush these through the toilet or you will clog the works and the plumber may not come to your house due to the “soft lockdown” in place.
It used to be that in the old days, few people knew I worked as a nurse and few people cared. These days, most everyone in my neighborhood knows I am a nurse now. Well, I gotta go to work now. My Spring hunt has been postponed this year due to the lockdown butt at least I have a job for now. My wife and my employer will not let me retire yet.
Carry on and stay safe out there. The Calirefugee and family.
Cali
Good to see you post and things are still near the norm in your area.
“Carry on my ‘shotgun’ son”
Ohh wait….
You’re too old to be my son!
Hah
Ohh well. Take care of you and Mrs.
Be safe
Hi Everyone,
Just checking in to see how everyone is doing, and I see tons of posts to read.
I am back in suburbia, a combination of FIL health problems and job requirements. I had some time off while my company procured enough lap-tops for all of us to work from home, and I was required to go to the office (done in very small groups with distancing) to get one and be sure I could connect and work from home as a condition of maintaining my job (and more importantly company-subsidized health insurance). Combined with ongoing (and possibly worsening) FIL health issues, to was time to come back, at least temporarily. At least I do not have to make any more trips to the office for the foreseeable future.
Not sure how long I will be back in suburbia, but I am glad to reconnect with our MSB family while here. I look forward to catching up on everyone’s posts, and hope everyone is staying well, safe and sane (well, as “sane” as any of us ever are 😉 ) through all of this.
So Cal Gal;
GREAT to hear from you my friend.
Got a project for you, figure out how to use the Cell Phone to connect to the Net.
Sure have missed your commentary.
Be safe and Wash Your Hands
Hi NRP and Blue,
Thank you… I just read your post about how Blue picked you… I’ve always thought that about our furry family members. And practically everyone who has ever adopted a rescue pet says their adopted furry family member rescued them as much as they rescued their pet. Particularly with dogs, I think they sense our need as much or more than we sense theirs. The image of a baby Blue toddling a few steps and plunking down against you for a nap is heartwarming in these bad news times, that’s for sure!
Changing subjects, I can post from my phone, the problem is that in “not suburbia” I am surrounded by mountains and do not have wi-fi in the house, so I have to go for a walk or short drive to get in signal range. So, I end up electronically isolated – which is both good and bad as you can imagine. Thanks for missing me… I sure miss you & all our MSB family when I am offline. Big hugs to you and Blue!
Definitely…my rescued shepard cross saved my life twice. I miss him.
So Cal Gal
Was thinking you were off line because of the IL’s health issues. Hope FIL is doing better now, and when time allows drop a note to the group.
Stay safe and healthy.
Hi AC and ACDH,
Thanks so much!
The IL’s are particularly challenging at this point. FIL has serious health issues and would not survive the virus… too frail and too many things hanging by thread through modern medicine. MIL had cancer a few years ago, and while stronger than FIL she has such a poor immune system I’m not sure she would get through, probably not.
But trying to convince them to change their habits is really tough. She is okay to drive short distances right now (store, doctor, pharmacy) but should absolutely not be out and about… but refuses to sit still. So, even when you do everything and deliver and they are well stocked, there is always some excuse for slipping out to do something or another – probably just to feel alive I’m guessing. Problem is, she and FIL aren’t going to be alive for long if she brings home the virus. She thinks she’s invincible – like those foolish college kids partying on beaches for spring break… except an 80+ yr old version. A friend says he had to take the keys away from his mom, we’ve discussed that option if need be… but it would be holy hell to pay if it came to that… let me tell you!
Hope you and DH are doing okay – this has to be a really challenging time for you both. Thinking of you and hoping you stay safe and well 🙂
So Cal Gal
Good to see you post, too!
“and I see tons of posts to read.”
I know, right?
Makes one wonder if we were all unemployed at the same time, or just sitting around bored waiting for the fireworks to being. 🎇🎆
Stay safe
Hi Joe,
Thanks for your response… I think everyone’s got a lot on their minds these days… and perhaps more time spent indoors than usual. For the most part, it seems our “family” is hanging tough… which I’m so glad to see!
– Just FWIW, I am currently at home on self-isolation. In my job at the Urgent Care, I ended up swabbing someone who tested positive for Covid-19. His father also later tested positive, although he is thought to be the secondary case.
The hospital our clinic is run by decided that since I was over 65 and have diabetes II following heart surgery (coronary artery bypass grafts x 3), they could do without me for two weeks while I self-isolated.
So, my job is requiring me to call in daily with my temperature. Other than that, the honey-do list is getting longer. So, I am on a two-week staycation LOL.
– Papa S.
Praying you stay healthy and symptom free!!
Papa Smurf,
You’re tough and you’re going to get through this.
Besides, I’ve read that COVID can’t penetrate blue skin….
😉
wondering about taking money from bank? don’t have that much in there anyway but wasn’t sure .Social is direct deposited.
Wondering mind !!!;
Personally I do not keep anymore in the Bank that to cover the two checks I write a month
Not that I do not trust Banks, but I do not trust Banks.
Personal decision for each of us for sure.
Wondering mind !!!:
PS; you need to remember that Cash you have deposited, is not longer your money.
It becomes the Banks Money (you basically loaned it to them), AND they literally do not have to give it back in any sort of emergency….. AKA Pandemic.
Is there a certain amount I can take at one time? or how often,? I seem to have heard it will be reported if you take so much out. But that is probably for big amounts and mine wont be big amount. lol wish I had a bunch to take.
Thanks for any information,
Wondering mind
I think they make you tell them why you want it if you get $10,000 or more out at once.
Wondering mind…
don’t know if this would work…but, it may
take some modest amount out in cash, so you don’t get grief….what is modest amount? no idea, suppose it depends on individual bank/teller etc
then, ask bank if you can directly make payments on your credit cards? (most I’ve dealt with do)…Make extra payments on credit cards. Either leave the money on as “extra payment”, or once credit card is paid off, you should be able to take cash advance off the credit cards..
etc
Thank you for your input, I appreciate it.
Wondering, 10000.or more banks report to feds. To make sure you are not money laundering.
Maggie:
It’s called an SAR, (suspicious activity report). And $10k is just a guideline. If some nosy teller, or the manager gets an idea that you are “structuring” transactions to avoid arbitrary reporting limits – they’ll still turn you in.
Thank you, do not even have that amount, dang it. Thanks for all the information… I have been coming to this site for a while but have not posted and I have been trying to get prepared but grown children just had a fit so I quit about a year ago but two weeks ago wanted canned vegetables and asked where they was at? of course I had used them up because they had fussed at me and now I asked “who’s crazy now? ” but again I guess I was for stopping.
This week I have a birthday on the back back side of 60. Boy, does the body change from 60 on!!!
Am so glad I already had my H surgery. Missed all this mess. Will have to put off my birthday outings which is ok. Just like another day anyway!!! Almost.
Health and Peace may we never need our… oops we needed them. preps that is
Happy Birthday Mrs. U. I just sang to you while timing my hand-washing. :>)
oohh that was what I heard, thought one of the cats caught their tail in something!!! Just kidding tmc, thank you!!!
Mrs. U,
Well Happy Birthday to you! Remember, 60 is the new 40. (Well, at least that’s what I have been telling myself for the last five years! ) Hope you get to celebrate, maybe stretch it out over 2 weeks???
Miner, heard the same and YEAH RIGHT. ha ha ha
Mrs. U
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Did you forget you are only 39 again…🤗🧁🎈🎈
ac/acdh
AC, is not yours coming up soon too? Oh yes my name is Mrs. Benny, Course only us boomers will get that joke!
Mrs. U
Yes, so is Just Sayin/So Cal Gal and a couple of others which trying to recall who they are.
It will come to me–hopefully– it is hard when my mind says I am are 29+, and body is falling over rowl on that one.😎
On Fox News, FBI Agents Shot & Wounded 36yr old man in Belton,Missouri outside Kansas City as trying to Arrest him for Terrorism….He was Building a Vehicle Bomb to Bomb a Coronavirus Hospital in KC & was Armed when Agents tried to Arrest as he Picked up Parts for Vehicle Bomb. He Died at Hospital… Ironic. FBI says he was well known & under Surveillance and Terrorism Investigation..Agents moved because he Accelerated his Plan to Strike now causing Mass casualties & damage. As if things were not Crazy enough right now…
Several have asked about my daughter. She seems to be doing ok. Cough almost gone, fever fluctuating from 100-101F (taking Tylenol). Haven’t heard back on the swab test. Was told normal was a 2-3 day turn-a-round, but to expect 5-7 day due to circumstances.
I feel as good as a 70 year old beat up old man can expect. My natural hip has been giving me fits, so I decided to punish it this morning. Hiked down to our cave, tucked in at the head of the deep holler behind the house. Back to the house now, paying the price, but it was worth it. You have to experience the beauty of that rugged walk to appreciate it. Watching the clear, cold spring water running out the mouth of the cave and rushing down the rocky “creek” that drops about 10 ft in elevation for every 5 feet horizontal till it reaches the floor of the holler is just mesmerizing.
Grand daughter is doing great. Wish the whole world was a sweet tempered as her.
Wife is overdue the pain relieving shots for her back. Sounds like the procedure may be on hold for a while.
Listened to my part-time neighbors fire off about 50 rounds of .22 rimfire (I’m a pretty good judge of gunfire I hear). They’re bugged out for the duration. Both are educators in a school district about 90 miles south. Have two daughters, oldest 13. Everyone in the family hunts, parents have their heads screwed on straight. Asset, not a liability.
Dennis,
wow. how cool is that ? your own cave? You are blessed.
Dennis,
Glad to hear ya have good neighbors. My experience with educators (school teachers) is not good. Most, not all, are very liberal and obviously, know more than all those around them. Many, unfortunately, don’t know how to turn off their little fiefdom. They are always in a position of authority.
Good luck to you.
Plainsmedic,
I’ll clarify a bit. Both began as teachers in the public schools. He now is a high school guidance counselor, she now teaches at the parochial school where both their children go. Both are strong Christians, raising their kids to hunt and fish. If they have any liberal tendencies I have not seen it. They ask my advice quite often
Dennis,
Great news. Good neighbors can be a valuable asset. I guess I’m a little tainted by personal experiences with school teachers. I did say “most, not all.”
I’m just a once bitten, twice shy kind of guy. I can’t help it.
Dennis that makes me miss the farm days. Hollers all had springs in them. Miss going to the far field with my youngest son laying down and watching the Red Tails maneuver the wind waves. Sitting quiet by a tree and whistling the Chickadees to me. Exploring for herbs/ginseng and such. The land bordered the original Natchez Trace. On occasion you would find a treasure from the long past travelers such as a very old broken bottle. We found a cannon flint in the garden. Just about proof that ole Andy Jackson had been that way on the march to New Orleans. Was a good place to live. We were broke most of the time, but looking outside made it ok.
Dennis, Has your wife tried Morninga? some people swear by it, for severe arthritic issues.. saw big family homestead you tube review after have used it for extensive time.think i remember said it took place of an expensive shot.
Good Wee Hours of the Morning to you Just Sayin’ and Dennis.
Morninga seems an interesting plant. Normally grown from seed and aside from Florida grown in pots. Rapid grower needs a deep pot due to long taproot and when you see the tap root coming out of the bottom of the pot carefully protecting the tap root repot into deeper pot. If you do the Victorian English thing of outside for summer and inside to protect can be grown anywhere aside from Alaska. As I do this for my Fig Trees nothing new to me.
Dennis worth research as it has many valuable benefits in addition to an excellent nutritional profile after all it’s a legacy plant for food and health benefits long after you and I pass on.
Cut and Paste:
The following moringa leaves nutrition chart shows that 100 g of moringa leaves have 4 times the vitamin A in carrots, 4 times the calcium and 2 times the protein in milk, 4 times the vitamin C in oranges and 3 times the potassium in banana [5].
Nutrition Moringa Comparison
Leaves (100g) Food (100 g)
Protein 6.7 gm Cow milk: 3.2 gm
Calcium 440 mg Cow milk: 120 mg
Potassium 259 mg Bananas: 88 mg
Vitamin A 6780 mcg Carrots: 1890 mcg
Vitamin C 220 mg Oranges: 30 mg
Almost all parts are edible, indeed the name means drumstick tree in Hindi as the immature seeds pods are a popular ingredient in Indian cooking.
As most survival gardens LACK Vitamin C and scurvy is a most horrible (look it up) dietary disease this looks like a worthwhile addition.
Thanks Just Sayin’ a new garden experiment for my NH household. 🙂
Hi all I’m still alive Have hunkered down but did go out Tuesday during “senior hour” to pick up DH’s scripts. His Dr changed a bunch. You all get a laugh, I got “yelled” at by an older lady because I wasn’t supposed to be there it was ONLY for the seniors. Told her I’m 65, she said you don’t look old, you’re cheating. So before it got ugly whipped out the DL AND my Birth Cert(yes I carry a copy),as her husband came up. He kinda hollered at her and confirmed I’m 65. Then he said You must have some really good genes, to which I replied, Yes and I have some really great slacks at home too ala Groucho Marx. That got everyone laughing. Never thought looking 15 years younger than I am would cause any trouble. As it were things are really getting sparse. They are now rationing/limiting milk, eggs (none to be had), cheese as well as the TP etc.. Did make it to the natural store during senior hour yesterday, didn’t get yelled at though, LOL and was able to pick up the produce we needed. They’re out of eggs too but most of their shelves were pretty well stocked.Am still worried about Son2, he’s an “essential worker”. He’s Manager of meat dept. He’s had to send a couple of his (best) workers home for the duration as they are in the 60 -80 age AND last week he had a bit of a scare one of his younger workers had to go home sick during the day. Thankfully(never thought I’d be saying this) it was only strep and she has a clean bill of health from her doctor, no virus. He’s also high risk as he and grandson2 have asthma. Told him I found a couple of N-95 masks left in the package from a couple of years ago when we were painting the bedrooms. Told him, IF he needed to come and get them to call and I’ll stick them in the garage for him. Since we’re shut down til after Easter told the family to stay put and canceled Easter. The grands are not REAL happy as they have hunted eggs at Grandma & Grandpas since they were able to walk. But they understand it’s to keep us “oldies” from getting sick. DH said the other day “You know, we could go fill a few of the plastic eggs we have and toss them out on the front lawn, they could come over and “hunt” those. We’d be watching from the front door inside the house, HA HA HA”. I don’t know that just might work, we’ll be able to see the kids(from a distance) and they can see that we’re not sick or dying. They are used to coming over 2-3 times a month as they don’t live far from us. My 6 yr old grand daughter is having friend withdrawal so she and her friends “Face Time”. The nine year old gr son is very happy as he gets to spend more time on the computer learning robotics. DIL does toss(lol) them out in the back yard with the dog to get exercise and to play as all the playgrounds are also closed down. There’s a cleaning company that has been going out and cleaning the school playgrounds voluntarily as a pay it forward to the schools. The guys they interviewed last night said that their kids went to the schools and they wanted to do something to help the schools out. One less thing for the teachers to worry about IF and WHEN they open again.
Ain’t it the truth! Rumor has it that officials here in Georgia look to see if Waffle Houses are closing before deciding whether or not a threatened snowstorm is worth closing the schools,
Stardust
Praise God that she is on the mend! I know that’s a big relief to you, too.
OOOHHHH, yeah! big relief she is doing better..but she still has the fever, not as high. Good enough to work at home for her company. She said she might make a trip and move here with me for a while after she gets over it.
Overall, the global death toll is rising at a pace that is very alarming. It hit 16,000 on Monday, and that means it only took six days to double from 8,000.
If the death toll keeps doubling like that, we are going to be in very big trouble. We are all ready in big trouble, because of the response to the Wuhan virus, the economic damage is all ready happening.
The number of confirmed cases is rising at an exponential rate as well, as more testing comes on line. The numbers of infected will shoot up, very fast, as will the death totals. How full is the stadium?
It took 67 days from the first reported case to reach the first 100,000 cases. Eleven days for the second 100,000 and just four days for the third 100,000.
But even after everything that has transpired, there are still lots of Americans that are not taking this pandemic seriously. I don’t understand this, because all of our medical authorities are warning us that the worst is yet to come.
To me, this is something that is exceedingly difficult to imagine, but we will see things a lot stranger than this in the days ahead.
For years, many of us have been begging and pleading with people to get ready. We warned that when things finally broke loose that events would move very quickly. But now it is too late to get prepared in advance because a day of reckoning is now upon us. It is going to be horrifying ugly to watch.
This Wuhan virus is scary. Every thing about it, defies natural beginnings. This is man made. This virus is gonna kill a lot of people, and ruin the worlds economies. What’s gonna be left for our children? I’m prepped fine, but, does it really matter? I can’t stay quarantined for ever. If I get this, it’s probably gonna kill me, as I have underlying health issues, as alot of us older Patriots do. What do we do in 6 months or a year from now.? This virus isn’t just gonna disappear.
Stand my Ground as I’ve mentioned a few times before a lot of Wisdom in the lyrics of Mike and the Mechanics “Silent Running”
For example “Teach your children quietly for someday sons and daughters will rise up and fight while we sit still”. That could be interpreted as we provide logistics, or perhaps already passed?
Almost as good as the “Sounds of Silence” when I’m feeling distressed because there is hope in the message.
This man made plague will pass or not. Depends on what the Designer of the COVID19 did.
I am *still* amazed none of the Democrats so active in “Impeaching” Trump hasn’t been affected by the virus that is striking so many in DC and all over America. Almost like they have a Vaccine for those important to the Deep State. After all if we created and released it would we not have a “cure”? Ision spoke to this once or twice.
You and I can only do our best as wisdom and prayer directs until we pass on the torch.
God is still on His Throne and He gives Wisdom to those that ask.
Micah 6:8 What does the Lord require of thee O mortal, to Love Mercy, to Do Justice and to Walk Humbly with your God.
The backstory of Micah is a “discussion” between God and the fallen Nation of Israel. They fell from Gods blessings many times and each time had to Re-Learn what God requires for His blessings on them.
America has fallen from God’s favor. We are a post Christian Nation. Our forefathers placed God in all their efforts to build this Republic. Pray for wisdom friend, He will give it freely.
me2
Heavenly Father is my strength, He has most certainly not forsaken me, as I trust his Love.
Almost every thing going on, is above my pay grade. I’m paying a lot of attention, but there is zero I can do to change anything,except my Family.
My daughter is sick, My Son has a bulging disc at L4L5. Bit, they complain not. Both have reported back, and found only tiny holes in there preps, and my Daughter h 9 kids. Good kids, real good, they listened to dad.
My family is safe, prepared, and ready for what ever is next, good or bad.
Stand my Ground that things are above our pay grade is often what you and I disagree about.
I pray the Serenity Prayer daily as to remind myself what I can do (and DO IT) and what I can only pray for.
I trust in God as you do friend. I don’t want to see my country fall nor do you.
But as the Bible shows the history of mankind even the nation of Israel fell out of the Grace of God and had to relearn what God requires of them to rise again.
America is post Christian in words and deeds. The “Rights” to murder our unwanted “Not Human yet” Babies up to and INCLUDING actual Birth and Breathing in NY and throwing God out of public discourse as “Hate Speech” are but a few of the ways we have gone Post Christian. When a Christian Group cannot hold a public prayer session in a Public Park for fear of the Police standing down and allowing Antifa beating them near to death is a clear sign of our Country’s choices.
All we can do is protect our families and pray for wisdom.
NH just issued stay at home and extended the school closure until May 8th
At the first of the year Oregon went to ‘bring your own bag” or pay $.05 for the formerly free paper bag. A couple of stores now have signs out – bring NO bags into the store, will provide free paper bags. Odd fallout from the virus.
NH gov banned the reusables last week. Too much chance they could be infected.
A family member told me that in their store you can still bring your own bags but you will have to bag your own groceries. The cashiers wont touch your bags.
I am at the woman’s work place….
She texted me earlier…she locked her keys in the truck….too many things on her mind…..walked back to.work.
Told her she was crazy to walk back, when a phone call would have worked. Will scold her about that. (Just kidding)
Things are bothering her and I told her that we will talk tonight.
She doesn’t get shook up easily.
LEO2211,
Good job sir!
If you have GFS (Gordon food service) you may be able to find some instant yeast there still. And it would be a large package, which is a plus.
If you didnt watch the Kung Flu presser today or the news. Go check out weasel zippers. For some (sounds like) good news.
Dr. Fauci mentions that Kung Flu seems to be a seasonal thing and we may get a break soon. Go read too much to type.
Also need to watch the videos from Dr. Birx. She shutdowns the doom porn headlines out there. Some reassuring words.
I’m sure the U.S. will still see a big uptick in cases and deaths, especially in certain areas for sometime, but remember it’s been here for awhile and we are just now testing more aggressively.
A&O
Good article on Zerohedge from a guy living in China and his lockdown there. Something he said that really resonated with me was that he needed to remember that people were operating on fear, therefore their actions were irrational. I think we will be seeing much more of the irrational behavior.
One of my younger friends who is one of the anxious snowflakes, however, is not anxious! She is loving being at home. I would have guessed she would have been really anxious ut she is doing well. So ya never really can predict!
Well, you did a good job getting ready for the pandemic, but you can’t ease up now because well unfortunately there are a few more waves coming, sorry.
And yes it seems you must be proactive with these, reacting is too late.
So again, all incoming mail is potentially hot, as it looks like Amazon warehouses are pretty much tingleing by now. Better mail your packages while you can, before they shut down the USPS for two weeks.. or UPS out of an abundance of caution.
Also if the label says Made In China and you use it a lot you might want to seriously stock up on it now. And this is getting expensive. And locusts for Gods sake.
I remember, we used to talk about using a bandana for a water filter, or a tourniquet or a bandage- now it’s a mask…
Over the years there have been times when the Federal Government goes through a partial shutdown because Congress can’t pass a budget. “Non-essential” employees are told to stay home. This usually causes many snarky comments about if they’re “non-essential” why are they on the government payroll. I wonder how many of those people making the snarky comments are now unemployed because their city or county officials said the place they work at is “non-essential” and must be closed down for several days? Karma can bite really hard.
Guess what SUSAN
All them federal employees are still NON-ESSENTIAL and can kiss my ass
I stand with what Kulafarmer said.
Government Produces NOTHING. It only consumes.
Oh Boy! Ally Bank, Brokerage Service, “Error 520”, “Error 524”, “Cannot connect to host”. Whole thing, all morning, went down harder than a democrat intern in the oval office.
My bank seems to be back up and running but who knows. They keep saying that the problems are from a 3rd party that handles some functions. But now like others have report the lobby is closed. Need an appt. to go in and you better hope that you can handle via phone or atm. This a local credit union.
Im just glad i got my truck payments pushed off a few months. More likely than not there will be no income for a while, so better dealt with than waiting to see what happens.
So heres one that yall might be able to either verify or refute.
Was reading over on George Ures’ Urban survival, from what he has gleaned from CONgress big fat fancy bill, what everybody is getting is
Wait for it,
A tax credit on their 2020 taxes
Yep, dont be spendin that check before you get it because it will most likely never show.
You can go read the 800+ pages yourself, but thats what he was doing and unless he finds something, ill go with that. In both versions, house and senate there is no mention of direct payments, only a tax credit next year.
Hows them apples
If hes wrong ill eat Mcdonalds
But i wouldnt be at all surprised.
Kulafarmer;
Only one more step into Communism.
And how many of our Constitutional Rights has Com-gress stomped on this time with the passing of this “Stimulus” pork-bill?
Yea,
They are giving us permission to keep a tiny amount of our own money we worked for but giving billions to pet projects,,,,
I really hate politicians
Kulafarmer
Please do not call them politicians, refer to them as what they truly are..
Blood Sucking Ticks!!
As they slowly drain what ever financial gains you/we once had into their bank accounts. m not so HO
Agree NRP
There is a Feeding Frenzy going on for
1.) POWER and
2.) WEALTH aka the $5 Trillion in annual tax revenues aka wealth that has been earned by We The People and extorted by the government under the guise of taxation.
The tax payer funded employees are telling We The People in no uncertain terms, Freedom and the Constitution be damned.
Yes and the promotion of making ALL the people getting a vaccine.
Kulafarmer
Not 100% sure but I saw something that said if you got missed or didn’t get the whole amount on the stimulus check then you could claim it on your 2020 taxes
It wouldn’t do much good for the economy to wait till next tax season but we’ve seen them do dumber things
Some heartbreaking news from the Oscar Meyer company. The Weinermobile schedule has been shut down because of the Coronavirus pandemic. We are in deep mustard now.
Adapt and overcome!
Bluesman,
Oh no. Maybe this will be over soon and they can Ketchup on the tour.
PEACE
MadFab
Sure puts them in a pickle, I relish the day they get back on the road, as long as it isn’t chili and get cold buns!
Bluesman
Oh, good thing I purchase kosher🌭. lol 😁
YES!!!!!!
think on this one…
“From the Earth to the Moon takes 2,455,974,360 U.S. Dollars laid end to end. From the Earth to the Moon and back to Earth would take 4,930,523,316 U.S. dollar bills; or, just shy of $5 billion dollars.”
So we just passed a Pork-Bill that is over $2 TRILLION
so how many trips to the moon and back?
BTW absolutely un-Constitutional Welcome to Communism.
To Andromeda, the nearest Galaxy 2.537 million light years away. Lets go there sometime, I bet they have TP and hand cleanser!
NRP
But, you know fewer and fewer exist physically. Soon, all currency will be electronic by design.
I guess we can put whatever we can salvage, put them through a wash and dry cycle, then use as TP.
Excuse the poor grammar. Must have had a Biden moment.
hermit us;
If Congress and the .gov have their way, there will be zero “cash”.
Why you ask???
If it’s (money) is electronic than all it takes is a single key-stroke on a computer to completely control everything. Banks, People, Stores, you name it.
Remember, where was that Greece I believe, that the .gov just went into accounts and took 5% “tax”……
Think that can not happen here, ask Venizelia about that.
Been discussing the wisdom of always having a weapon on your person. I very rarely get a visit from strangers. I just had my doorbell ring for the first time in months.
Opened my door to find to pretty rough looking young fellers, late twenties, early thirties, standing at the doorway. The little one stood about 6’3″, the other about 6’5″ and 300 pounds.
They were hog hunters…….doing it the right way, asking for permission to hunt my property. They had cur dogs in the back of their pick-up, long bladed knives on their hips. Said they don’t use guns, rather they go in and take the hogs with their knives once their dogs get them down.
Had to turn them away, but nicely. I usually try to accommodate folks who ask first, but due to present unpleasantness I felt it better not to allow it.
Friendly visit, but being ready when you open a door to strangers just makes sense.
Dennis, Didn’t you close your gate? How did they just walk up to your front door and ring the bell?
blackjack22,
Been keeping it closed. Opened it this morning expecting a registered letter. Post lady won’t climb gates, leaves a card saying to pick it up in town (30 mile drive) if she can’t drive to your door. It’s closed now.
blackjack22,
Gotta share this. Unknown to me at the time, my wife was in our front sunroom, adjacent to the porch, looking through the min-blinds with her shotgun at the ready.
Dennis
She damn sure got your 6. P Shotgun packin Momma.!!
Good for Her and good for you. Double win-win.
Dennis, DAMN! I’m NOT coming to you’re house unless I call first.
Dennis
That is a good wife you have there, prepared to cover you should it be required
All right! Three cheers for the girls!!! Way to have your back.
Calirefugee
Happy Birthday🎈, even though you are working today. Hope that when you arrive home from that long shift. You have a wonderful dinner🍽 🥂with Mrs. C. and enjoy spinning your fat kitties.
I have posted this before, but is worth saying again. If the Wu Flu is ” Seasonal” and can’t stand hot temps, HOW COME MIAMI HAS OVER 600 CASES AND FORT LAUDERDALE ALMOST THE SAME?
I heard and saw many reports on TV that teens and spring break students didn’t heed the call for isolation and keeping hands washed especially in Florida. BTW, I have caught many a flu in the summertime.
Seminole
Easy, we are bein fed a load o horseshitf
No offense BJH
Kula,it is interesting that the Chinese government keeps tabs in its citizens by GPS on their phones.
I knew someone many years ago whose company had a contract to lay telephone cables all over China even out to the remotest villages.
Their goal was to have all Chinese connected no matter their geographic area or status. Fast forward to now. Better technology and with their social credit scores you can bet a cell phone is required for everyone to have with them at all times.
We know they used GPS on phones to track people during the outbreak leaving their own provinces.
So,here’s the anomaly Kula…
Why is there over 20 million less cell phones in China now?
Inquisitive people know this by the difference of bandwidth use…
Only 80,000 cases in China my a**…
BJH
OHH, holy snicker doodles.
That many have dropped off their system, it means only 1 of 2 outcomes. 1-they ditched their phones, or 2-they no longer require them, and unfortunately have to go with #2. No dowsing require on this hypothesis.
BJH
I saw that a few days ago, definitely makes sense, especially when factored with statistical numbers from years past regarding birth rate, new phones etc that all increased every year and then poof it declines all of a sudden.
I always knew their numbers seemed a little off. I didn’t realize how much off. I believe I said add a couple of zeros to their numbers to get the real numbers. Now it looks like even I was way off. Should have added 4 zeros to their numbers.
That’s more than 1% of their entire population. I sincerely hope there’s another explanation…
Perhaps some of them are not on their phones because they are sicknow,but will recover eventually.
Chinese and GPS on Phones…re the loss of “numbers”. I have been wondering if it might be a case of folks destroyed their phones so they cannot be tracked? Either (possibly) they have/are leaving the location (where they are mandated to stay), they are into something criminal/just fed up…?????????
(are there burner phones in China?)
Lost Chinese GPS signals?
“Delivery of 5,000 URNS to funeral home in coronavirus epicentre Wuhan raises fears China is underplaying nation’s official 3,300 death toll”
“Meanwhile local media has reported funeral homes have been receiving thousands of urns.”
“One funeral home even received two shipments of 5,000 urns in just two days, according to a Chinese news outlet”
?????????
Large riots across parts of eastern China right now. Police forces from Jiangxi and Hubei are fighting each other, apparently. Developing fast.
I do not get it…why riot after quarantine lifted?
Food, from what I can find. Food prices have gone through the roof.
Pegasus and Lauren…
could be, Lauren, food. I have been wondering though, if possibly there are masses and masses of “disappeared”? Maybe COVID-19 fatality numbers were higher than reported, and the bodies “disappeared” so no proof?
Just remember that isnt the first time that has happened
Lauren, there’s an article over at ZH on the riots. Quite a few short videos.
From what I understand, the riots have to do with the Jiangxxi Province blocking residents from Hubei going over (crossing the border) to work. So residents are giving the Jiangxi police a pounding.
I am sure there is more to it though…
I saw a 2nd hand twitter post and a couple of articles indicating that food prices were the initial cause of the riots in Wuhan.
TMcgyver,
Wonder if that is why the Chicom party has banned travel by “outsiders” and the outside world in the last day or so?
Hope your folks over there in China are safe.
Thanks for keeping us updated.
tmcgyver, Minerjim,
Story over on “Weasel Zippers”.
Ahh…I get it. No one want the Hubei people near them. Thanks. Kinda like I do not want a New York City person around me.
Pegasus, Unless that person is in the medical field (i.e. Doc, PA, or Nurse) who would want somebody from NYC near them?
Dennis,
Thanks. Interesting, very interesting.
Minerjim:
It’s insidious. No one over there would dare speak up about problems. All of their comms are monitored. There could be severe reprisals for entertaining any outside ‘propaganda’. A dear friend and co-worker today shared with me her frustration at trying to present facts to her brother over there. He digs in and tells her she is wrong and under the influence of American agitprop. She cannot tell if he is really serious, or simply toeing the party line for his and his families safety. So sad. There are so many decent, nice, generous folks over there. They just don’t make the evening news. My wife is a good example, we are coming up on 29 years in May.
TMac
Lots of good folks over there and in the USA as well.
Many just stuck in less than ideal situations, especially now. Have met many from over there, they would never go back.
i like the critical thinking when someone asks:
“is he really serious, or simply toeing the party line for his and his families safety.”
it is difficult to read between the ‘lines’ when someone else is controlling the ‘script’
covid-19 party?
well maybe they read it or heard it wrong
maybe they thought it was a co-ed party, 19 years and over
Quick trip to WM today for fresh stuff. I got what I needed- salad, veggies and some frozen things. No butter, sugar, flour, chicken – other meat cases, both fresh and frozen, half empty. Lots of other obvious large empty spots all over but didn’t go investigating.
aka, local super wal mart. on wed. late afternoon.. most carts outside..in sunshine…supplements we required were present some were up signifcantly..No thermometers,most expensive of cold formulas present. generics depleted… Very little flour, very little sugar, no baking powder w/o alum. All cooking oil was GMO.except small selection of olive oil. very little sandwich meats.. no beef, little pork and chicken..big long sections in meat cases empty. …few loaves of bread only most expensive left. cereal way down. no tp. many big empty/near empty shelves. No lids for 5 gallon buckets. yet buckets “on sale”. no potatoes,no avacado’s, stock low on dry peppers.fresh veggie selections, some sparse-some less than stellar/common things..carrots ,celery..
I basically made a beeline for the refrigerator section so didn’t get a good look at a lot of things but the cereal and bread looked ok. Vegetables also were pretty full. Meat had lots of holes. Other aisles looked ok but they could have just been faced (shrug) Didn’t go anywhere else in the store so don’t know but imagine it was similar to yours. Other stores are in the same state. Might have to go see if there is any of the sausage left and do a little canning.
Son who underwent cancer treatment is back at work this week. First week since treatments. His county in Texas (Dallas County) under mandatory stay at home except for “essential personnel”. His job is considered essential. Supposedly, this is an enforced “stay at home order”, and he was issued a certification letter to carry with him as he travels. As former law enforcement, I can’t see officers stopping folks just to check. I can see them asking if they stop someone for another observed violation, or coinciding with a 911 call. Even if violations are found, I figure verbal warnings at the most. More of a self discipline situation I would think, and only for county residents, not the myriads of people passing through.
Hi Dennis,
Praise God, (and I know you do), for your sons remarkable recovery!
Regarding “essential services”, I actually wrote our company’s exception certificate for essential workers. We’ve tried for days to reach anyone at Sacramento for a state designation. Can’t reach a soul. But our city, where we are located, verbally affirmed by phone that we are an essential business. I cited that affirmation in the “Dear LEO” letter. It’s yet to be tried. And I sent my staff home to keep our front office under the 10 person rule. I imagine any officer with >5 days on the job can tell pretty quick if someone is headed to or from work.
Tonight I made a quick run to fill up a propane tank. There were more cops per square mile than I’ve seen in a very long time. Multiple agencies in marked cruisers; going nowhere in a big hurry. No lights or drama, but just tons of cops everywhere. At the same time LA Mayor Garcetti was on the radio, talking about how “serious stay at home enforcement” would start tonight, after he sends out an EAS. Something is happening.
Dennis, My DD also got one of those letters/ Tn. For same purpose. she lives less than 3 miles from work, in town. Kinda don’t think it is for local ppl. but for those who assist from out of area. Also up to one million reserves called up.She is taking her supplements.
Dennis, it is uplifting to hear your son is well enough to return to work, but we will continue to pray for him as he works in an essential line of work. I think will be a long roller coaster ride but we need to enjoy the special milestones. Thank you for sharing.
My poor wife is working at the supermarket all day and night. Her store chain is the only one in the state that has not yet installed Plexiglas barricades at the registers. Her boss won’t let her wear a mask. The union boss made a local-wide conference call last night, sounding like any other well-educated executive, yet saying nothing of substance. My wife probably hasn’t heard the news yet that a grocery clerk in Pomona died today from COVID-19. I guess this is the inflection point where shit gets real.
tmc can you say class action…..
I heard the National Guard in Rhode Island is on the lookout for cars with New York license plates and turning them around. Soon you might need out of state plates to escape, or they’ll round you up in the Paddy Wagon (but then I guess they will have to let you out again because of the virus…)
– Keep Calm and Chive On
I see a black market potential for fake license plates for escapees from New York, $400 for a Utah plate, etc.
If they tried to keep cars with Chinese license plates out it would racist.
I like the idea of keeping New York plates from entering our state, add California to that list also.
On a more serious note I’m glad I’ve mastered pickling eggs and making ghee.
Related: POTUS was just on talking to reporters before he left for Norfolk saying that they are considering “an enforceable quarantine” of New York, parts of Connecticut, and parts of New Jersey. Said “he hopes they don’t have to do it, but we’ll see…” Should be interesting, to say the least…
Hmmm. In fairness Gunnar, I can think of many benefits to quarantining NYC, parts of CT and, well, most of New Jersey. Take a look at the mobile phone signals maps of the COVIDIOTS refusing to quit spring break down in Florida. Overlay that with the virus propagation maps. Those stupid fools torched the entire I-95 corridor.
I agree with you. And I saw that mobile phone map (just looked at it again) – utterly stupid and reckless behavior on the part of many. And now many innocent folks are paying the price for their behavior.
Interesting that at the local Walmart, chicken and other meats are sporadic, most other essentials like flour & eggs gone. The one thing that surprised me was the Jimmy Dean Sausage rolls…. an entire case filled with them. People must have just decided against or something, but I saw a gold mine…. Filled up a cart and spent the day pressure canning. Now have a whole bunch of shelf stable, long lasting protein. Actually opened up a jar of home canned chicken I did back in 2015 and it was delicious. Darn animals wouldn’t stop begging 🙂 Truly love to can meat.
Before I moved out to the country I used to talk to a semi-friend that was halfway into preparedness. He always wanted to do more and had great questions. I shared so much info and pointers, but he never seemed to have the time to learn or do anything. I moved and haven’t heard from him in 6 months. Tonight I got a call from him and he was wishing he had taken me more seriously. Now he’s stuck and not ready.
On a good note, I have our first chickens getting bigger and can’t wait for some fresh eggs. Hopefully I’ll be filled to the brim with my Spicy Pickled Ghost eggs. Fantastic flavor but your lips tend to go numb 🙂
So blessed to be here in the country and starting my new semi homestead life. So much to learn and now it’s a quick curve…
Hope everyone is doing well!!
DT
Now why didn’t I think of that?! The case of sausage was well stocked. It wasn’t on my list and so didn’t even think about it.
Heard tonight here in FL the governor is going to have road checkpoints on the intestate looking for anyone coming in from Louisiana. Also no more vacation rentals going forward.
A&O
What about the flights from NY?
My sister lives in Fl. She said their governor said he could not stop the people who own homes in FL from coming to stay there.
Rough couple o’ days. Really needed this:
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Been farting around doing property recon with my redneck drone air force.
I am telling you, drones are one of the best security devices. I can simply do a few tap tap taps on my phone. Then sit and watch in real time what’s happening on the property. Not a lot of money spent. Instant feedback. Plus lots of fun.
Lauren
7 generations,,,, holy cow! Didnt realize it took that many,
It takes crossing with all 3 types of pollen? And on the hybrid right?
This is just something i had started looking into a few years back when trying to figure out how they get a stable hybrid.
I agree on just going with heirlooms, way easier and fairly consistant.
Curious if you have tried grafting any tomatos, seems a bunch of work, some commercial growers swear by that though,
It’s not as big of a deal as you might think. A breeder with a good variety will often “rescue” embryos as soon as the seeds start to develop, and grow several generations a year in a greenhouse. Embryo rescue however isn’t something to be undertaken by an amateur as it’s a chemical process with 0 space for error.
Grafting can work. I’m not good at it, although I keep trying. For me it’s not worth it. The commercial growers graft the variety they want onto a stronger rootstock, or one that promotes vertical growing (since not all commercially viable tomatoes have a vertical habit).
Most nightshades and beans are self pollinating. If you leave them alone and they’re not right next to another plant they’ll usually breed true. In my experience that goes for hybrid tomatoes as well. Selfing an F1 hybrid tomato usually creates an F2 hybrid that has the same traits. I prefer to segregate rather than selfing, but with tomatoes outcrossing isn’t always feasible.
Heirlooms are great as long as you can get viable seed. When you can no longer buy seeds, you’re sunk. I’d suggest that everyone learn about seed saving NOW rather than buying seeds every year and hoping they will always be available.
I’ve mentioned before that “varieties” do not thrive in my yard. I’ll be lucky to get 25% survival rates in the first generation, and sometimes it takes years to get one plant to take. If I grow them in potting or seed starting soil they take off…then die on transplant. The 2nd generation is often better, and by the third (new variety!) they’re trying to take over the world. By that time I have a locally adapted “variety” that will actually grow and thrive. So landrace gardening was an easy transition.
Oh, it looks like I didn’t actually answer your question. No, you can get an F2 from selfing the F1 hybrid. F2 is simply the 2nd generation hybrid. By crossing the F1 back to the heirloom parents (or the silbings that have the heirloom traits) you can speed reversion to the heirloom variety, but both are F2’s. By selfing the F1, you get an F2 with only one parent, which is more likely to have the same traits as the F1.
The number of generations is just because people have decided that’s how many generations it takes. Try to sell a new variety before that, breeders and plant sellers won’t want to take a chance on it because it’s not “proven.”
Just about everything is out in the greenhouse now, the one holdout being the sweet potatoes. 11 seedlings survived my abuse (three had to be “rescued” because the seed casings weren’t coming off and two of those snapped off the seed leaves while attempting rescue) and both of last year’s overwintered varieties survived. I’m saving the rest of the seeds for variations later if needed. One has a root that is purple and white mixed, so I’m interested to see what happens to that this summer. The potato seedlings are finally starting to leaf out.
I’ll be doing more planting in the next few weeks, mostly grains and landscape stuff. It felt rather weird this week to be sitting and watching the snow fall rather than running around in a panic trying to cover everything I planted out MUCH too soon.
I opened up the last metal bin of wheat that my parents bought when they were married, and planted it. I’m hoping at least some will be viable so I can rescue an OLD variety. One section of the garden is set aside for wheat this year, so if it doesn’t grow I’ll probably go with kamut. I’m hoping this will be another good choice for winter wheat.
Lauren re “I opened up the last metal bin of wheat that my parents bought when they were married” Wow. Very cool. What foresight they had. No wonder you are skilled at what you’re doing. You had good ideas to follow.
For the curious: Some time ago I mentioned snapping off the “sprouts” on the potatoes and planting them. When transplanted into the potato bed a number of them were already developing potatoes. It seems like a good method, particularly if you ever have to eat your seed potatoes.
Lauren,I missed that post. Did you cut them off with a small piece of the original potato or you snapped off the module off the potato. Got me curious.
Btw,the sweet potato had purple and white flesh?
I’m growing okinawan sweet potatoes. My personal favorite. Purple flesh mostly. Some have purple and white streaks throughout the potatoes. Taste like chestnuts to me. Grow them in big tubs we got at Wally world.
They are a great crop and you will never go hungry with sweet potatoes once they take off.
Btw, we keep all containers off the ground with 2×4’s. Keep the cold transfer from the ground to the containers down…
I snapped the sprouts of the potatoes off and planted them in pots. Seemed to work great. We’ll see how they do in the garden itself.
With the sweet potato, I accidentally snapped the end off the root when digging it and the flesh was mottled purple and white. 🙂 Amazing, very clear divisions. It was one that bloomed last year so I kept it over the winter.
Lauren (keep in mind I have a brown thumb, so obviously not well informed..sigh)
you wrote “snapped the sprouts of the potatoes off and planted them in pots”
re the snapped sprouts off, do you mean you had a planting potato and snapped that growing sprout off before you planted it? or..
when I had tried planting potatoes, seems I had been told I should cut the potato in pieces making sure to get an “eye” in each piece, and if it was sprouting that was good too.
?
thks
I usually cut the potatoes, but we had the sprouts growing and it was too early to plant so I snapped the sprouts off and planted them in pots. Then we ate the potatoes. 🙂 We’ve planted a bunch normally (cut potatoes) and I’m going to see how they compare.
Lauren..not to be dense..you actually just snapped off said sprouts and they grew? (therefore still using potato)…Had no idea this would work.
thks
I didn’t either, but I figured it would be worth a try. And it worked! When I planted them in the garden this week they all had well developed root systems and some already had tiny potatoes on them.
Lauren,
very cool. Good to know, thanks for “reporting”.
Very cool Lauren just the snapped off sprouts of the potatoes?
What did you pot them in? Potting soil? Compost? Dirt? Did you water them or start with damp soil and mist them?
I am impressed they had root structures and even tiny potatoes in a week?
I want to try that this weekend so I am hoping to find out your details please.
Thanks
@me2 I just used regular garden soil in small pots. The soil was damp, but I watered them from the bottom and put them out in the greenhouse so they got the cooler temperatures.
It was more than a week since I planted them–possibly two? I don’t think as much as three, but it’s possible. I didn’t record the date as I should have. They did have root systems within a week, though, since I had too many in small pots and had to repot some of them within a couple days. I planted them in the garden this week.
Lauren in my mini-greenhouses in my sunny bay windows (mostly recycled sliced cheese containers great stuff) I’ve been using those recycled paper egg cartons as seed-sprout and plant pods. I found if I attempt to tear off the soggy bottom I generally get damage to the tender roots. Damage too much for some plants.
So I use a pair of scissors like I do in the Operating Room, push gently in and spread the tips to open the soggy bottom. I find when I re dig my garden later adding compost almost all traces of the egg carton gone while when I used peat pots I always was finding (and still do) bits of the peat pots in my garden soil.
Cannot expect to always find those recycled egg cartons if things really go sidewise so I have soil blocks as my backup. A learning curve getting the soil mix right but the ability to plant direct is something I really enjoy.
Getting back to the snapped off potato sprouts I will use this method as so I don’t disturb the tender roots when I transfer to my potato boxes.
I’ve used those egg cartons as well, but decided they just weren’t worth is as most plants grow so fast they get root-bound in the tiny cups. I still have a bunch around for backup, but I find it’s easier to just plant in pots and let the plants grow undisturbed for a longer time.
The ‘old timers’ used to cut out the eyes and plant them or skim the skin off with an eye on it because they did eat their potatoes.
Lauren, thanks for sharing this. I’m going to give this a try, to early here to plant outside but I have windows and grow lights.
Lauren,
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of veggie gardening! I enjoy reading and learning, appreciate it!
I want BREAD. There isn’t any.
I’m trying to earn my merit badge folks. Warm water, bit of sugar, dash of salt, splash of half-half, just because – spoonful of yeast. On the stove, near the oven exhaust. I bought a great wheat mill, tried it once, sounds like a JT9D at TO power, don’t want to wake-up the house.
I found some 2014, vac sealed, plain flour – smelled a bit ‘off’. Breaking into the preps I found a vac-sealed brick of “King Arthur Bread Flour” ! Sha-Zaam! Now we’re talking! “Bread Flour” – that’s a hopeful label. And “King Arthur”, don’t know what the heck he is a king of, hopefully he is the King of Bread.
All kneaded up now, bubbly, elastic and yeasty-smelling. Towel over it, back in the warm draft. I wonder if I’ll end up with something edible.
tmcgyver so how did the Bread go? The King Arthur flour company is with in driving distance of here in VT.
Now you got me hungry. I always have to make an extra loaf because one of those still warm loaves isn’t going to get cold before eaten.
Funny how supporting my beloveds WW diet has taken me away from fresh breads….
Got some King Arthur nearby maybe I’ll be bad……
SO how was that bread friend?
Been an interesting week here on the mountain. For the most part it’s been business (or lack of it) as usual.
Our preps were already adequate, but like many, we added judicially to certain areas as concerns grew and before the panic set in. Been checking the perimeter regularly for signs of ingress, especially for any new game trails to consider for future trapping if needed.
Noticed my wife’s car was covered with a tell tale yellowish green coating of pollen. Guess folks will be confusing allergy symptoms with Chinese flu now.
Already mentioned the surprise visit by two strangers. Turned out to be innocent enough, but a reminder to have a force multiplier on your person at all times, especially during these uncertain times. (doesn’t hurt to have an unseen wife and her shotgun watching their every move from a defensive position)
Curtailed my daily therapy sessions for most of the week, but experienced a relapse yesterday afternoon (after the uninvited visit). Session consisted of practicing response to sudden stimulus. Mainly response while hands filled with stuff. Involved meandering in, around, and through my scattered steel targets while carrying a can of spray paint in one hand and a empty magazine for the pistol in the other. Upon an imaginary stimulus, dropping everything from my hands, drawing and engaging the target nearest me at the time, followed by the next closest, performing a combat reload, scanning, re-holstering, then picking up equipment from the ground and repeating the drill, sometimes engaging as many as 4 scattered targets.
Might be fun–run music of some kind and have your wife turn it off at random as your “trigger.” Like musical chairs with force multipliers. 🙂 To make it even more interesting, have volume determine the number of targets engaged.
Dennis re “Turned out to be innocent enough” — maybe yes, maybe no.
quite often I have heard that folks/criminals/etc, will do a sort of first visit to assess how tough the target is. I have seriously heard of a number of situations with break ins of this nature.
Keep sharp….these sound like big /well armed/skilled fellows.
MSB regulars and non regulars:. FYI
The past couple weeks has been like reading a novel, with all the comments.
LOL
Good job, Ken!!
Almost have that fallen tree cut up and split , except for the trunk and cleanup. Out of that one tree, I should have at least two normal winters plus of heat.
The other halfs episode a couple days ago:
She said the walk from the locked out truck, back to the office, did her good.
Lots of downsizing, and everyone else is multitasking others positions.. one co-worker has been in shambles since the states shelter in place. Word in her office is to expect this to go on further than the three weeks, put out by the Governor.
One confirmed/tested in our area hospital. Another that wasn’t tested, but assumed positive. So I expect a mulitude of positives within the next few days.
My brother is hardening the entryways on his house. Expecting break-ins to ramp up this next weekend. The last paycheck workers would have gotten and unemployment being overwhelmed.
Stores aren’t accepting bottle deposits, now. Sadly enough, some folks in our area depended on those extra roadside pickups of 10¢ a can.
Fun times a comin’.
Even our dogs have been acting unusual the past couple days. Mostly at night.
Take care everyone
God Bless
Joe c, but wait,there’s more!
My son just shared a video with me from New Orleans.
With all the resteraunts closed to customers there is less food waste now. The unintended consequences are the rats have nothing to eat. So now the rats are running around in the streets and sidewalks looking for food. They are everywhere in their video and don’t seem too concerned about people being right there. They are worried about diseases the rats carry being a problem in the homeless community . Hantavirus anyone?
Hmmmmmm, just like in China.
Coming soon to the other cities… what a mess!
BJH:
We’ve got coyotes walking around SF streets like they own the place; broad daylight; no fear of people. It’ll probably happen here in SoCal too. In good times coyotes are known to get brave, mostly at night. “Goodbye Kitty”, etc.
Tmcgyver,
I had an animal control guy in San Diego tell me they would find coyote dens in heavily populated neighborhoods. They always found a bunch of cat flea collars in the dens . On trash day the overturned cans were most likely from coyotes or dogs…
NOT DOGS…
STUPID SPELL CHECK
Joe c
If the dogs are acting differently, your area is being scouted. Check where the dogs were looking. IF they did not react by barking, it means that they know the person/party.
Time of tin can signals for you to set out jic. mho
AC, I agree. Two legged and possibly 4 legged predators checking things out.
Definitely time to put up some passive security measures…
Im setting up shot shell in rat trap warning devices, somebody is stealing my eggs, these hens dont go from laying 16 a day to 3 like that,,,
Ill fix whoever is doing it,
Kula
That is also on my ‘things to do’ list.
Non-lethal, but those that would leave a mess in your undies, if triggered.
Yeah, sounds like someone maybe helping themselves.
Use a game cam, first…..and secure that cam.
(I had good intentions today……looks like commenting has taken precedents)
Yep, thats going in today, tripwire warnings too, pretty sure i know who and from where, i think i have some year old eggs im going to put in there too, they are nice n clean
FWIW
I had good intentions today too,,,
Just got lazy along the way and badabing, here i sit!
LOL
I’m not sitting, just pacing, and trying to be quiet while the other half naps.
Wow I’m more productive than you,…?
And yes, stinky eggs would let the light handed know your on to them, and give them second thoughts…
Just be careful
Joe C,
Just glanced at your reply to Kula.
Thought it said ” not sitting… Just prancing”
Unintentionally gave me quite a good laugh.
Stay safe and healthy.
PEACE
MadFab
MadFab
Lol
Ya got me Roarin’!!
Yes I’m prancing.
Doing the Happy dance. Today and days to come!!
(No wonder the dogs are acting weird)🤔
Joe c
— re “My brother is hardening the entryways on his house” what is he doing to harden the entryways?
Jane
He is using 2×4’s and lag bolts.
When he told me that, it was like….ouch!
I told him there has got to be some kind of 2×4 brackets around the farm.
I believe he has improved the door latches and deadbolts with 3 inch screws, not the typical 1 1/4.
I have a lot of left over 3/4 in plywood that he is welcome to use.
The thing with entry doorways….they all open INTO the structure. It is easier to force entry than to pull outward said door
You make me feel guilty now…..I guess I should be a brother and check on his fortifications…and further remind him of available materials.
Joe c…thks…always good to re such info.
re checking on him? sure why not….Will foster good will, and you might be able to give him a few tips (if he is “tippable”)…
and, never know, might get an idea or two
Jane
This comment is for entertainment only….but tis true.
So I just returned home from visiting brother.
Do you want me to help out on the home fortifications?
Nah, got it handled.
You know I have extra plywood in the shed.
Ohh, that’s good to know.
Now my brother is a solitude hermit. No built up immunity. So he has been keeping a safe distance from me, as not to expose himself to my ‘ailments’…..
Well, thru the kitchen window, he shows me my tax information papers, as he’s been doing my taxes for years….
slightly charred.
I was just trying to decontaminate and forgot about them being in the oven.
Hopefully I have all the numbers I need.
No beer for you…saith the beer nazi.
Joe c
very entertaining…
(also, good lesson on decontamination, grin. I remember my Mom used to warm donuts in the hot wood stove oven, inside a brown paper bag. Quite possible those old fashioned paper bags were made of actual paper back then, and sterner stuff. (modern paper might well have all sort of scud in it)
Neighbors purchased garden soil for us, but would not let me pay them for it. We keep their horses here & I see to it they are fed morning an evening so it is on less chore for this working family to take care of in their schedule.
As a thank you, made homemade apple cookies for the crew of 6. Sent a text message so that when they arrived home their dogs which go to work with them would not get into the cookies. Yet the kids did…rowl. Asked the parents were able to have any cookies,, reply was yes. One set of happy little ones since homemade is a rarity for them.
We will sleep a little better now.
The owner of the home across from our property came up after receiving a large electric bill. Apparently the person who was fixing up her place, she had kicked out for trying to grow pot there moved back in to the house. We knew someone had moved in, thought it was a renter. Until she showed up and needed our bolt cutters to get into her property. Yes, it was the guy she kicked out an a friend of his living on her property. The property is going up for sale when she can get the damage fixed up or sell as is will be my guess. Feel sorry for her, as it has been a tough couple of years for her family with the sudden passing of her husband and having to pickup everything he took care of is now her responsibility.
I have my own opinion, but, I would like to hear what all of MSB Patriots think.
How long do you all think this virus and lock down gonna last?
Personal opinion on the lockdown: Not long enough. The lockdown will end (as it did in China) when TPTB get concerned about the economy. Then the disease will re-surge once people are back to work and follow the same pattern again. I’m guessing it’s going to be the new seasonal flu.
SmG, I don’t know, but I think the next two weeks will key to understanding the trajectory of this thing and knowing if the measures taken so far have had a positive impact. If at the end of two weeks we still see exponential growth of cases and deaths, I think we are in it for at least two or three months. Right now it feels like that slow, clickity-clack climb on the first big hump of a roller coaster before the bottom falls out from underneath you.
SMG
One sentence:
It depends on how long the Demicraps want to instill fear, panic, sufferage and mayhem.
True that
My hope is that 50% of the population stay locked down forever. 🙂
RDM
My hope is that 50% here, leave!
Especially all the jerks who moved here from liberal schiffholes and are screwing up a perfectly good paradise
SMG, Until TPTB decide to end it. With the release of the anti viral meds.
Stand my Ground,
I do not see any economic turnaround until September-October.I see the biggest problem in all this mess being economic.We, as nation have lived far beyond our means for decades. That will be a very tough habit for folks to break.
I see our liberties slowly being stripped away from us one small drop at a time ( a boiling frogs scenario). There appears to be little faith in our national leadership.
To paraphrase Dr Fauci, WE can’t set a timeline the virus will do it for us.
SMG
Its really hard to tell honestly.
I can tell you one thing for sure, the economic damage may well take a few years to overcome,,,
Ill be selling vegetables again, that much im pretty sure of
Stand My Ground
IMO the lockdown will last until the libsiders have decided that Trump will not be able to run on the economy. They’ll destroy as many jobs as they have to to entice folks to vote with them. They are the ones that closed the schools, states, cities, and businesses, when practicing/enforcing careful hygiene, masking, and social distancing in public and crowded venues would have had a likely equivalent effect in slowing transmission. They’ll blame it all on POTUS. I hope they utterly fail and go down in flames.
Stand,
My sense tells me the virus will be with us maybe a year, but come through in waves off and on. Lock downs? That is political, but my guess the majority of lockdowns will be done early Summer, but continue in hotspots a little longer. Back to normal? Heh, what’s normal? The world is changed, you can’t go back to yesterday, and you can never really go home. Best you can do is go back to the Lord, and that’s way better anyway. Just my 37 cents (inflation ya know)
I agree with your take, Minerjim.
SMG,
I very desperately want to be wrong, but I think it will be September-ish before things settle a bit. This is a BIG problem with no easy solutions.
SMG
I think the virus will be with us for 2-3 years, coming in waves of severity. I’m hoping the stay-at-home orders will ease up some in June or July, at which time I plan to replenish my supplies for the next wave.
AC/BJH
I’ve got plenty of roadside cans, now!
LOL
I don’t want the place to look obvious. But there will come a time of enhanced security….no matter how simple. I might even take that tree trunk to block the barn drive.
I replaced batteries in the motion detectors, other items are locked up, been locking doors, even inside the house. Always locked the vehicles. And CCW/ Constant Carrying Within.
Our one dog doesn’t bark, unless an obvious threat. 4 or 2 legged.
The other half wanted the fan running last night….
Ahhh, NO!
Things are the norm, although my scanner for the two counties has been going off several times this week.
Of course not knowing the actual issue (s).
The FWTB is constantly on Fakebook…..the other ‘news’ source.
Ok, enuff ramblings…got stuff to do on this rainy weekend.
SMG, I think virus will be a lot worse here than China and last much longer, because unlike The Chinese, Americans are not used to being told what to do by the Govt. And Too many are not going to isolate as suggested, and too many think Won’t happen to me.
Maggie’s Farm, you are so right. I have a neighbor who lives on our road who refuses to shut his business down, even though we have a county stay-at-home order in place. According to him, ” Only Homeless people are getting the virus”. His last name begins with the letter “S”. He thinks it stands for Superman, but we all know it stands for STUPID!
The place i had just started working for was “keeping everybody working” even though they are a tourist novelty business,
I decided to stay home,
Would bet money on them having a mini outbreak
Kula,
“A tourist novelty business”…..had a flash of you sitting at a bench making those “coconut monkeys” for tourists to take home to the mainland.LOL.
Ha!
Nope,,,
Just the renovations guy, nothing quite as glamorous as head monkey maker.
Breaking news on CNN
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CNN has just learned that Chinese leader Xi Jinping is prepared to release proof that two white American male soldiers wearing red MAGA hats, hangman’s nooses draped over their shoulders, screaming racial slurs, and pouring vials of liquid into pots of bat soup in Wuhan City just prior to the outbreak of, what we can now call the Trump flu. This revelation will confirm what our crack team of unbiased former DNC operatives, now expert scientific advisors have been telling us behind the cameras as we’ve watched this Trump created tragedy unfold. We’ve been unable to contact Justin Smollett for comment………………….
Dennis
R O W F L
That sir was good!!
Great one Dennis- made me laugh!
Dennis, film at 11?
Too funny!
Mrs. U
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
🎈🎈🥂🎂
I don’t know if any of you visit Mike Adams, Health Ranger, Natural News website, but he released a rant today that is …. Woe
http://www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-28-dear-america-you-are-now-living-under-the-tyranny-you-deserve.html
Would love to hear some discussion on it.
An update on the duck eggs. As SMG said, they are yummy! I have been baking with them and everything has turned out great. The ones I got are about twice as big as a chicken egg. I highly recommend them and I am headed back for a bunch more from my neighbor this week. I will also pick up manure for the garden and fruit trees.
We are adopting a puppy, should be able to get it on Monday. We have a friend who went to a small town and picked up 2, so one will be ours. We have not had a puppy for over 7 years, so I guess this time period when we are home should provide us with the best-trained dog ever!! Here is to a new security alarm and the loss of sleep for a couple of weeks.
Congrats on the new baby! Should be fun to snuggle and train that pup. Happy for you!
Wow, another Interesting week while observing stay at home in NY. I still go back and forth to the farmstead and I spent another full day at my friend’s (people empty) cabin attempting to organize and clean a section at a time. I did go to Aldi’s mid week to pickup milk and freshies. I checked stock…they had no paper products, no flour, sugar getting low, pasta low, and limits on what they did have. I have no problem with a store placing limits so their customers can have a chance at the products. I will continue to get groceries while it is somewhat quiet in our area as I am not sure when this will end or how. We had no cases near our county until today. I am sure it will reach here eventually.
The good news is my father’s house that sold in early Feb closed this past week. I am so grateful I have a competent spouse that managed things at home well so I could stay and get the house ready for quick sale after my father passed. And an amazing BIL that worked his butt off while still working full time in construction to help me get it ready. That is a load off my mind now and I can complete distributions to my siblings that may help them get better situated before things cave in entirely. This country was on the edge before the stock market hit the skids so this current market just buries us deeper. At some point, TPTB will elect for a reset.
Our hens continue to lay about 30 to 32 eggs a day. We lost one meat chicken at one week of age…it happens with these birds. We now have 17 that appear to be doing well. I am hoping my midget white turkeys still arrive the first week of May. We are going to harvest a couple large turkeys and handful of grown male ducks for meat and bone broth to cut down on feed. There has been a huge interest in our hogs lately. The four that were ready for harvest were snapped up immediately. One local guy that has been raising regular show hogs for years was amazed that these guys live outside year round in their huts….and have their little ones without intervention.
Spouse has been researching the solar set up and now working with someone at the company and is ready to pull the trigger. I have reminded him to let Iron Edison know we found them through Ken so you get credit however that works and I will make sure they know before we close the deal and pay. Spouse was dragging his feet before but this virus has lit a fire under him.
Because of the water shortage at FL stores, my siblings are now ready to use their Sawyer water purifier units we gave them many years ago. They have wells but the water is skanky so they won’t drink it or feed it to their dog or cats.
Take care all. You each remain in our prayers. Stay safe, healthy and alert….and remain calm.
Thank you regarding Iron Edison.
Ken, you are most welcome. We would not have considered them if you had not done the multiple articles explaining the products. We truly appreciate all the help you provide on a daily basis. So thank you so much!
Mrs. U, Happy Birth Day! Remember when it was don’t trust anyone over 30? Now I want a T shirt that says don’t trust anyone under 50.
Couple of nice days this week. Mostly still wintry which here is not much different from spring and fall. Swans flying over. Saw a female gold finch in the yard this morning. Steelhead are running. DFM and friend out for a weekend of fishing and chores. Really appreciate young muscles.
To town for greengrocer scraps for pigs a couple times with stops at Safeway and Home Depot. Wearing my N95; no one gave me a second glance. Quite a few masked and/or gloved out and about. Not a lot of folks anywhere.
Rescue Mission also saving its veggie and bread scraps for the pigs. I bring them items from greengrocers that are still good, just ugly. Nice relationship developing.
Added to deep pantry. Think I have enough for now. This crisis has shown me holes in my long-term preps. Going to work on those.
Received sugar beet seed. Also plantain (the weed, not the banana), clover, misc grass seed for pig pasture. Received shipment of homemade soap from a friend.
Runt had a bout with low blood sugar a couple nights ago. Looks just like pneumonia but no fever. Thought I was losing her but she recovered. I just don’t pull all-nighters like I used to. Sigh! Old age sucks.
Bought a fridge off Craig’s List. Want to stock up on bread, milk, meat, as looks like young fellows may come routinely. Muscle feeds muscle. Speaking of, time to get dinner started for them.
Keep Calm and Wash On
Today was the best day we have had since this crap started. Got a chance to get out on the water and do some fishing. Even though all county and state boat ramps are closed in my county, it pays to know people.
Caught a bunch of Snook and saw many other species. Not only did we get some good needed vitamin D from the sun but there were times I honestly completely forgot about the Kung Flu and everything else. Very much needed that!!!!
Crazy thing is there were so many boats out on the water you would have never known the boat ramps were closed. Unfortunately saw a couple groups of boats all tied together having a party. Easily 10+ boats which means alot of people congregating together.
A&O
It is such a beautiful, peaceful day, sunny, fairly clear, nice cool breeze, you would never know that the rest of the wotld is falling apart. Interesting times!
Feeling very blessed!
Haven’t been out of the house in two weeks, but that is pretty normal for us. Usually out once a week for volunteer work and errands. Shelter in place for MT went into effect today. I just made a deposit on a starter flock of sheep; a ram, 2 ewes and their lambs. Just need to get the fencing up and then I can pick them up. These are specifically bred for our winters and are a triple purpose mix for meat, wool and milk. Looking forward to learning to make cheese and yogurt. More independent from the system everyday. Can’t plant the garden yet, but I’ve started seeds inside. I am tripling the garden area this year. Wish the last of the snow would melt.
MontanaHome, can I ask which breed of sheep you purchased? My thanks.
Wow, getting old “SUCKS.” Man am I sore.
Today was sewer day, yep, that’s right. Monday, they are gonna pump all of our tanks (6). It’s a real job, digging up all those lids, getting them lids loose. Plus, we moved our outhouses (Plural), into their assigned positions.
Monday, will be the start of my 18th week of quarantine. (Nov 17th to present). I’ve been to town a couple of times, to the Title Co and Doc. Haven’t been anywhere else. Man, was it uncomfortable to go to town. Didn’t like that feeling at all, and, I ain’t missing nothing. I’m staying on my homestead.
Opened some freeze dried veggies, corn, carrots, peas, spuds both mashed and hash-brown, green bean, and celery. Dated 1989, 30yrs, and they were just as tasty, as if they were fresh. Open some tuna in oil, 2001, just fine. Opened pinto beans,2001, they required more time in the pressure cooker, 35 mins instead of 20, but were just fine. Home canned beef, chicken and pork 2001, just fine, smelled as if I had just canned them.
I have a person, who goes to the store for me, so I can get supplies. But, until recently, there wasn’t much to buy. Now, limits on everything. This stopped the hoarding. Allows us to get some milk, cheese, and other non essential supplies.
TPTB are lieing their ass off here. We have 8 confirmed, one was a 6th grade teacher, who has infected 100’s of kids and adults, not good at all. Plus, these college kids, all can’t get home, because of travel restrictions. They are becoming a problem. It’s astonishing how many are addicts, meth, heroin, pot, alcohol. Leo, has their hands full.
I ate some boxed mashed potatoes that have been sitting in my pantry for years (best by date was 2016). I was going to toss them, but had second thoughts after seeing the runs on the grocery stores. They tasted a little stale, but were palatable to me with enough butter, salt, and pepper. I didn’t get sick at all, so I’m totally going to finish that box off. I have 1 more full box with best buy date from 2018 to take care of after that. I loves me some mashed potatoes!
SMG,
I don’t know for sure, of course, but more than likely that sixth-grade teacher was not the one who infected all of the kids and adults. It was probably a kid who infected her and the others. She’s just the one who showed the symptoms first. (Not that she didn’t then infect others.)
Any thoughts from anyone on how long the food supply chain will last? I was just thinking about the average age of truck drivers and how bad this virus is going to hit them. Also, as things get worse, many truckers will likely refuse to deliver in order to stay with their families and/or quarantine themselves. I’ve also been thinking how long the grocery store workers can hold out. I’ve not seen any wearing masks at my local stores. I know most grocery stockers are young, but I’ve been reading about more and more deaths of perfectly healthy young people due to the virus. Lots of after effects to think about with this virus.
Here come the scams. I got an email offer of 28 rolls of toilet paper for $280. If they can get that much NRP might soon become a millionaire.
Chevy,
The wife walks with the dog, almost daily. We live very rural. We had been talking and she “harvested” a few lamb’s ear leaves. I’ve read you can dry them and they will remain soft. We’re gonna find out.
Lamb’s ear is abundant around here. Not quite as handy as tp, but likely just as good or better. I’ve used it a couple of times while out hunting. Works very well when alive and green.
Plainsmedic…
some suggestions, maybe you would consider trying and report back to us on results (enquring minds want to know, grin)
-try transplanting some to pots in/around your home …do they transplant?
-besides drying, try some other methods of preserving (for later use as TP)…
———-in Ziploc in freezer?
———-can some? (might this work?)
———-dehydrate and then spray lightly with some type of moisturizer, before use as TP
I don’t have any around where i’m at, or a means to get some, but have wondered about the above.
If you should report back, would be interesting
Interesting article in todays “DAILY MAIL”. Apparently one Funeral Home in Wuhan, China took delivery of 5000 urns today ( for cremation ashes) That number alone surpasses the death toll currently being claimed by china. The article went on to state that thousands of urns are also being delivered to other funeral home through out the city.
Keep in mind that Wuhan is one city, population 10 mil (+/-) in a country of 1.5 Bil (+/-).
It would stretch the imagination to believe that the Virus was contained only within this one city.
What the real number’s are is anyone’s guess and will probably never be revealed
Update: Actually, the funeral home in Wuhan rec’d two shipments of 5000 Urns each per the article
“One funeral home even received two shipments of 5,000 urns in just two days, according to a Chinese news outlet, via the New York Post. “
Well sadly the world death toll looks to be following a pattern and doubling every six days. Let’s hope the trend doesn’t continue but if it does that number is going to get ugly over the next several weeks. Everyone stay safe
A little Sunday morning musing. I welcome others to share their thoughts.
First 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
For those that prefer their wisdom be less bible orientated look to Frank Herbert’s book Dune “Fear is the mind killer, I will face my fear and watch it pass until only I am here”.
Fear paralyzes, Actions to address that fear gets something done but the fear it’s self and THE Stress it creates still needs to be addressed.
I have noticed inn myself and my peers more and more stress behavior. Loss of sleep (good sleep needed for good Immune System health), irritability (stress and the lack of good sleep), responding to every house creak (need to be aware but what did Kipling say “Always On Guard, Always Unready”) as a threat.
My 94 year old Mother in Law is almost chanting out loud “She wants God to take her” no matter what we do to encourage her, that lasts but a moment. So my normal Spiritual Support Rock my beloved is very distracted by her death wishes. Dads so mentally out of it he is currently unaware of Mom’s death wishes. But that will change soon I expect. When I talk to my beloved I remind her its “Quality of life is all we can offer so maybe the COVID19 quarantine from friends visiting is done?”
No we will *still* protect ourselves from blatant contamination but the no visitors rule needs to be relaxed until they both pass I suspect.
I am remembering what God requires of us.
Micah 6:8 “What does the Lord require of thee O Mortal, to Love Mercy, to Do Justice and to Walk Humbly with your God”.
Thoughts and advice welcome.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”
Me2,
Spot on. In these difficult times we should be turning to God, if we don’t do so daily already.
Philippians 4:6
“Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, with prayer and petition, with Thanksgiving, present your requests to God.”
Peace of the Lord be with you.
Well, made a grocery store run yesterday, things are getting back to normal, meat case was back to normal, still no paper products or cleaning supplies. Cooking oils were wiped out as well. Flour, sugar and yeast were back, but salt was mostly gone Crowd was closer to normal and people were keeping their distance and being polite. We are under a stay at home order, but I am considered essential, if only I was paid that way! Still only one confirmed case in town, but the entire staff of our local bank branch have all been under quarantine after one met the criteria to be tested, so it’s getting real here. My bosses have said that if we stay home they’ll lay us off so we’ll be able to collect, I’m not quite there yet but I’m getting closer.
Well, that’s what is going on in the Monadnock region, everyone stay safe out there.
Just an update from our neck of the woods. The wife and I have been hunkered down for the last 12 days or so. I’ve been off work for about 4 weeks although last Wednesday my boss called and asked if I wanted to go to the Detroit area for 4 weeks and oversee some planned work there. I politely turned him down and he understands the whole situation. Told him I thought July would be a target date to return to work as we have 2 postponed projects that are scheduled to restart in July.
I took advantage of this time off to go through the preps. Discovered a few small holes that have partially fixed through an online order to Amazon. Delivery date is scheduled for April 27 for American products….sheesh!
My youngest son has booked off work for holidays and also a scheduled plant shutdown helps him stay home with the wife and my 2 grandsons. My oldest boy who lives about 65 miles away booked of work on Thursday to stay at home with his wife and 3 kids. I’ll have to figure out if Facebook video chat will work in my area. Our first try at video over copper telephone lines wasn’t very promising. Will sure miss not seeing those grand-kids.
I replaced the firing pin in one of my 12 gauges, (sorry gun aficionados and purists,) it’s an Eastfield 960 and I’ll head out shortly to blast some target loads through it to make sure it fires properly. It’s a fun gun to rack and load and I keep it near the front door for uninvited guests.
My youngest boy is working on installing automatic fans in the greenhouse. We are using 12 volt engine fans out of an old scrapped car. The controller works fine, just got to get the high/low temperature cut-in/out configured today and the greenhouse will be ready for a new season.
I hope everyone in Ken’s community makes it through this pandemic and the tough economic times that follow. Stay safe and healthy.
Just catching up with everyone here this morning. Glad to hear most of you are staying well and safe at home. Had an interesting moment this week; a car sat out in the road near our house and just stared at our place for quite awhile. I happened to glance out the window walking through a room in the front of the house and noticed it. Sat there over ten minutes. I got my binoculars and sat on the floor about 5 feet from the window and watched him watching us. Didn’t appear to be on a phone, nor looking for addresses, just staring over here. Just one guy in a car. I couldn’t get a plate number either.
Everyone needs to up their security right now. Don’t wait.
DO. IT. NOW.
Hey all! It’s been a few years. I have a question regarding communications if cell towers turn off. I’ve been looking all over this site and I need updated info. How would I communicate with both daughters(10 miles and 35 miles) and Inlaws(1 mile)? It’s a bit of a rabbit hole. Sorry if this has been asked recently.
Yell real loud?
Welcome back!! I would imagine if cell towers turned off we still may have internet, not based on cell towers. So you may have email and internet based computer chat. Also consider hand held radios, which may get you that 1 mile distance. Other than that, driving to see them.
Maggie’s farm
You had posted some time ago about getting another dog and precautions.
Have you thought about looking into retired military dogs?
The other half and I were just talking about it. Though we are not ready for another…..our Heeler is too strong willed…..but that will be our next route. There are alot waiting to be adopted.
Might be something for you to look into.
International food week here this past week, chalupa, haluski & pierogies. And now today we’ll eat American; meat loaf.
Have had several cars stop at the end of the driveway lately. Not sure what they’re doing. I’m assuming people are lost because they’re bored. The road turns to dirt at my driveway so a lot of people turn back.
Ordered a few more cameras. Going to need to order some more direct burial cat6 to run them out a bit to fill some distance gaps. Need to research the law because some will need to be pointed at other people’s houses. Will mean I’m in excess of 70 cameras. Might be overkill but have had a lot of trespassers these past two weeks. Usually it is just hunters or people looking for a place to bury dead pets. Don’t need people permanently borrowing my shit again like they did the last recession.
Yep, people are definitely borde and stuck with nothing to do.
More and more comments on 3-4 & 5 year old Articles looking for something, anything to trash…
Gata love it
NRP, and just imagine those TP rolls don’t even have to be cycled through, FIFO-style. 😉
NRP
Yup, a lot of people looking for someone to blame. Folks here have had some good responses, like Dennis’s. I think this pandemic is going to school a lot of people in short order.
A weekend away from gloomy news is a good thing.
My deceased neighbor’s home sold — to a neighbor and long-time local. Everyone is so happy at the outcome.
This past week we have been working on additional home security. We have another upcoming project to tackle now. And with gardens, the greenhouse, etc, the ‘do list’ gets longer every day.
Don’t know if i mentioned that we went to a friend’s orchard the other day and got a bushel of cold storage apples to make sauce with. Well we made sauce yesterday. Neither of us like to peel apples, so years ago my hubby had made a drill attachment that has prongs to fit inside an apple core, and peeler blades to run along the side of an apple. It’s a darn handy gadget he made on his lathe and he had that bushel peeled in no time. But coring and cutting took a while, then cooking….
We canned 20 pints of applesauce in 2 batches. This morning, i put them on the downstairs shelves, after moving and shuffling around to find the space. Since we are ‘shopping’ from our food storage room now, about once a week, I bring a case of home-canned foods to our kitchen pantry so they’re within easy reach. Sure beats going to the supermarket. lol
We spent about half the day today working up a good load for my new blackpowder pistol. I got a conversion cylinder for the gun and we needed to buy brass for this gun, but now we’re set. With plenty of lead molded and plenty of powder, we got some time in with the gun. It sure is a different gun. Right now the cylinder is kinda tight to put in place, but in time, everything will smooth out. Our newest burn barrel now has drainage holes. 🙂
This coming week, our guard goes up. We are living in very unusual and unprecedented times — we need to be guarded at all times now. Nothing odd has taken place here. Yet. But we want no surprises. There’s a hole bunch of humans out-there and it won’t be long before they’re hungry, off meds, needing a ‘fix’, angry, or worse. I sure don’t want to meet up with any of them. So it’s time to activate a more guarded position at all times. I don’t think the masses have good definition of what their personal futures hold for them. They’re doing what they’re told for now, but obedience changes as quickly as a Facebook comment gets posted. Flash mobs meet to harm and destroy. For those folks who are law-abiding citizens, how much can they tolerate before the strain pushes them over the edge? No one really knows what will happen from one day to another. Add money or family burdens in and people will react, and often it isn’t in a play-nice way. Plans get cancelled or are put on hold, jobs may or may not provide income in a week or two, stores may or may not have foods well stocked, millions may or may not be infected. How long can the average person handle living this way??? People are still relatively ‘well behaved’, but I suspect it won’t be long before full-on crazy starts to take place and crime increases.
Keep your eyes open folks. If something looks out of the ordinary to you, it is.
Well that’s it for now. Time to go count all of my ‘hoarded’ TP rolls. My precious….