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  • Modern Throwback
    03/29/2020 at 3:05 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    NRP, and just imagine those TP rolls don't even have to be cycled through, FIFO-style. ;-)





  • Modern Throwback
    03/29/2020 at 3:03 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    A weekend away from gloomy news is a good thing. My deceased neighbor's home sold -- to a neighbor and long-time local. Everyone is so happy at the outcome. This past week we have been working on additional home security. We have another upcoming project to tackle now. And with gardens, the greenhouse, etc, the 'do list' gets longer every day. Don't know if i mentioned that we went to a friend's orchard the other day and got a bushel of cold storage apples to make sauce with. Well we made sauce yesterday. Neither of us like to peel apples, so years ago my hubby had made a drill attachment that has prongs to fit inside an apple core, and peeler blades to run along the side of an apple. It's a darn handy gadget he made on his lathe and he had that bushel peeled in no time. But coring and cutting took a while, then cooking.... We canned 20 pints of applesauce in 2 batches. This morning, i put them on the downstairs shelves, after moving and shuffling around to find the space. Since we are 'shopping' from our food storage room now, about once a week, I bring a case of home-canned foods to our kitchen pantry so they're within easy reach. Sure beats going to the supermarket. lol We spent about half the day today working up a good load for my new blackpowder pistol. I got a conversion cylinder for the gun and we needed to buy brass for this gun, but now we're set. With plenty of lead molded and plenty of powder, we got some time in with the gun. It sure is a different gun. Right now the cylinder is kinda tight to put in place, but in time, everything will smooth out. Our newest burn barrel now has drainage holes. :-) This coming week, our guard goes up. We are living in very unusual and unprecedented times -- we need to be guarded at all times now. Nothing odd has taken place here. Yet. But we want no surprises. There's a hole bunch of humans out-there and it won't be long before they're hungry, off meds, needing a 'fix', angry, or worse. I sure don't want to meet up with any of them. So it's time to activate a more guarded position at all times. I don't think the masses have good definition of what their personal futures hold for them. They're doing what they're told for now, but obedience changes as quickly as a Facebook comment gets posted. Flash mobs meet to harm and destroy. For those folks who are law-abiding citizens, how much can they tolerate before the strain pushes them over the edge? No one really knows what will happen from one day to another. Add money or family burdens in and people will react, and often it isn't in a play-nice way. Plans get cancelled or are put on hold, jobs may or may not provide income in a week or two, stores may or may not have foods well stocked, millions may or may not be infected. How long can the average person handle living this way??? People are still relatively 'well behaved', but I suspect it won't be long before full-on crazy starts to take place and crime increases. Keep your eyes open folks. If something looks out of the ordinary to you, it is. Well that's it for now. Time to go count all of my 'hoarded' TP rolls. My precious....





  • NRP & Blue
    03/29/2020 at 2:58 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Yep, people are definitely borde and stuck with nothing to do. More and more comments on 3-4 & 5 year old Articles looking for something, anything to trash... Gata love it





  • Chipmunk
    03/29/2020 at 2:57 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    SMG I think the virus will be with us for 2-3 years, coming in waves of severity. I'm hoping the stay-at-home orders will ease up some in June or July, at which time I plan to replenish my supplies for the next wave.





  • pinky
    03/29/2020 at 2:53 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Have had several cars stop at the end of the driveway lately. Not sure what they're doing. I'm assuming people are lost because they're bored. The road turns to dirt at my driveway so a lot of people turn back. Ordered a few more cameras. Going to need to order some more direct burial cat6 to run them out a bit to fill some distance gaps. Need to research the law because some will need to be pointed at other people's houses. Will mean I'm in excess of 70 cameras. Might be overkill but have had a lot of trespassers these past two weeks. Usually it is just hunters or people looking for a place to bury dead pets. Don't need people permanently borrowing my shit again like they did the last recession.





  • Chevy
    03/29/2020 at 2:40 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    International food week here this past week, chalupa, haluski & pierogies. And now today we'll eat American; meat loaf.





  • Joe c
    03/29/2020 at 2:08 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Maggie's farm You had posted some time ago about getting another dog and precautions. Have you thought about looking into retired military dogs? The other half and I were just talking about it. Though we are not ready for another.....our Heeler is too strong willed.....but that will be our next route. There are alot waiting to be adopted. Might be something for you to look into.





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  • Dennis
    03/29/2020 at 1:59 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Cookie, Welcome to MSB. Hang with this bunch and you won't get caught poorly stocked with necessities should life happen again after this. Most of us here read and understood that silly little story about the Ant and the Grasshopper when we were kid's. We don't hoard, we store up for when times are lean. We don't panic as winter comes, we have put back in preparation. Had you been interested in being prepared, you would have discovered this site long ago. It would seem though that now, life has slapped you upside the head, and rather than bemoaning your own shortsightedness, you've searched the internet looking for someone to blame. Ain't our fault you are just now discovering that life has it good times and not so good times, but it's not a total loss. If not knowing how to wipe your whatever without toilet paper is the only problem you are facing, all is not lost. Hang around, we can help you figure it out. If you are figuring on the government to save you, well...….you are in much worse shape than you realize. Forget about the blame game, put on your game face, join us, and we will figure out a path to the other side of this together.





  • Red Dog Master
    03/29/2020 at 1:54 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Cookie and anyone else who doesn't get it; Being prepared is simple. Buy an extra can of beans, and extra box of ammo, an extra pack of TP, an extra box of screw/nails if you do home repairs, every week or every other week, whatever you decide. Then maybe once a quarter or twice a year, make a bulk purchase of these items or diversify. Same goes for saving money. An extra $50 bucks a week and maybe once a year a windfall happens and you put back 2 or 3k..just examples. When you need it, you'll have money, ammo, food, building materials, whatever. It ain't rocket science its simple. But don't go all socialist democrat on me for being prepared. Oh and one more thing, all prepared people, don't fall into the trap of listening to the "hoarder" rhetoric. Its nonsense and ignorance.





  • GettinReady
    03/29/2020 at 1:51 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    And the Police, who are supposedly there to"Serve and Protect" - it is these Privileged Few, who are being served and protected. (From the rest of us.)





  • GettinReady
    03/29/2020 at 1:45 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    When they close beaches, marinas, launching ramps, to keep people away from the freshest and cleanest air available, it's not about safety - it's about Control ! Of course it's not called Marshall Law. The new term is Shelter in Place. The privileged minority (richest) who have places on the water, are beachgoing, swimming, boating with impunity. This is out of Revelations, with one of the Four Horsemen proclaiming the food shortages and stating "bother not the oil and the wine", meaning those of privilege can still get what they want. How long can this go on ?





  • tmcgyver
    03/29/2020 at 1:44 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    DaisyK - Those rats are cutting down the width of the rolls, (Amirite NRP?), gotta figure-8 those folds now, which increases the number of squares required for the same effective coverage; I'm sure there is a formula for it. Now THAT is some stealth inflation. --geez, I gotta get out of the house--





  • Glenn
    03/29/2020 at 1:43 PM
    Chlorine Bleach For Sanitizing Raw Fruits And Vegetables

    10% us waaaaay too much.





  • Glenn
    03/29/2020 at 1:40 PM
    Chlorine Bleach For Sanitizing Raw Fruits And Vegetables

    Urine is VERY poisonous when ingested. Stop spreading a lie that it is safe. And stop accusing others of being ignorant when it is you who is clearly a fool.





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  • tmcgyver
    03/29/2020 at 1:38 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Cottony-soft, quilted squares of perforated, south-side decadence cupcake. ... Err, cookie.





  • Pegasus
    03/29/2020 at 1:26 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Welcome back!! I would imagine if cell towers turned off we still may have internet, not based on cell towers. So you may have email and internet based computer chat. Also consider hand held radios, which may get you that 1 mile distance. Other than that, driving to see them.





  • Minerjim
    03/29/2020 at 1:23 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    NRP, Maybe if she does, you should box up some lettuce, tomatoes, and cabbage and mail it to her....parcel post. See how she would enjoy that! LOL. (Reminds me of a friend who once mailed an enemy a PB&J sandwich with a couple of cockroaches. They multiplied by the time it got there and he opened the box!)





  • Beach'n
    03/29/2020 at 1:09 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    NRP & Blue, Yep! These people have been going on vacations, buying new cars, getting their hair and nails done and now I'm supposed to feel sad because they have no TP?! Nope. luv ya'll, Beach'n & Cassi





  • Minerjim
    03/29/2020 at 1:02 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Me2, Spot on. In these difficult times we should be turning to God, if we don't do so daily already. Philippians 4:6 "Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, with prayer and petition, with Thanksgiving, present your requests to God." Peace of the Lord be with you.





  • Wendy
    03/29/2020 at 12:53 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Cookie, Do you have more money than any of us do? Don't be so selfish. We could use it.





  • NRP & Blue
    03/29/2020 at 12:40 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    I'm wondering how long it took for this newest Troll to find thie post by Lynn that's over 5 years old? HAHAHA ya got to just love the ignorant that blame everyone else for themselves. Selfish my AZZ, I worked hard and spent a LOT of $$$ for what I have, all awhile these ignorant fools played and demanded that others provide for them. Not there is a hiccup in the system and THEY wipe out the stores NOT us, we're the selfish ones? Im betting a roll of TP that cookie will be demanding 1/2 of the produce from my Garden this year....





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  • Nathan James
    03/29/2020 at 12:39 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"





  • Nathan James
    03/29/2020 at 12:33 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Yell real loud?





  • Lilangelsmom
    03/29/2020 at 12:31 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Hey all! It’s been a few years. I have a question regarding communications if cell towers turn off. I’ve been looking all over this site and I need updated info. How would I communicate with both daughters(10 miles and 35 miles) and Inlaws(1 mile)? It’s a bit of a rabbit hole. Sorry if this has been asked recently.





  • Mary Beth
    03/29/2020 at 12:28 PM
    Sourdough Starter Recipe Without Yeast From Scratch

    A question: Should I use a clean container each time I feed the starter to be? Does it matter? Does the temperature of the water matter? My kitchen can be warm or chilly (southeast side of the house but no heat) will that slow the development of the starter. Today, day 3 of my developing starter, I made Sourdough buckwheat pancakes with the discarded starter and they were quite good.





  • Antique Collector
    03/29/2020 at 12:21 PM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Anony Mee How right you are!! At least we were taught to be as self reliant as possible and not be a burden on others.





  • Anony Mee
    03/29/2020 at 11:53 AM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Cookie And because we are prepared, no matter what crisis might come along, we likely didn’t contribute to the current shortages. In fact, many of us here are older, remember times of shortages or are only one generation removed from the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, and war time privations, and thus have planned accordingly.





  • Kulafarmer
    03/29/2020 at 11:47 AM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Spot on Ken I have a decent stash of most stuff, Its not from going to the store and buying up huge quantities, its from buying a few extra here and there when able. We live on an island in the middle of the ocean where everything pretty much comes from far far away land! I saw people panic buying. That wasnt us. Nothing irritates me more than people who barely pay attention to anything other than their facebook feeds and live in lalaland accusing folks practicing good common sense preparedness measures if being hoarders. We have tons of em out of work here now, not a clue that it was their own damn fault for not paying attention to events and making sure they have at least a months worth of whatever, and that old folks comment is BS, my mom is going to be 88 and has a decent supply of most stuff. And many of my friends are older and all have a decent supply of necessities, EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN SUPPLIES THAT THEY USE DAY IN AND DAY OUT!!!!! But hey, sure, its my fault some idiot cant find TP 🙄 Maroons





  • Jane Foxe
    03/29/2020 at 11:16 AM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    Ken and Lynn and others of similar ilk.. if …...one is prepared, one is much less of a drain on the "system"... …...one is prepared, at least on some level, one has no need to panic buy -----one is prepared, can be much calmer about assessing needs -----one is prepared, can stay home an stay safe(er)





  • Ken Jorgustin
    03/29/2020 at 11:02 AM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    To 'Cookie', Lynn, and most of us here have acquired our preparedness supplies long before the TP shortage (due to panic-buying as a result of Coronavirus). Being prepared ahead of time is a wise thing to do. Not selfish at all. We who are prepared, have done so over a fairly gradual period of time. Me personally? I have been prepared to the extent that I am - for many years. Long before this current pandemic crisis. This is NOT selfish. Rather, it's pretty smart, logical, and common sensible. Hopefully this brief explanation sets your mind at ease.





  • Jane Foxe
    03/29/2020 at 10:59 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Plainsmedic… some suggestions, maybe you would consider trying and report back to us on results (enquring minds want to know, grin) -try transplanting some to pots in/around your home ...do they transplant? -besides drying, try some other methods of preserving (for later use as TP)… ----------in Ziploc in freezer? ----------can some? (might this work?) ----------dehydrate and then spray lightly with some type of moisturizer, before use as TP I don't have any around where i'm at, or a means to get some, but have wondered about the above. If you should report back, would be interesting





  • Plainsmedic
    03/29/2020 at 10:53 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Chevy, The wife walks with the dog, almost daily. We live very rural. We had been talking and she "harvested" a few lamb's ear leaves. I've read you can dry them and they will remain soft. We're gonna find out. Lamb's ear is abundant around here. Not quite as handy as tp, but likely just as good or better. I've used it a couple of times while out hunting. Works very well when alive and green.





  • DJ5280
    03/29/2020 at 10:38 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Just catching up with everyone here this morning. Glad to hear most of you are staying well and safe at home. Had an interesting moment this week; a car sat out in the road near our house and just stared at our place for quite awhile. I happened to glance out the window walking through a room in the front of the house and noticed it. Sat there over ten minutes. I got my binoculars and sat on the floor about 5 feet from the window and watched him watching us. Didn't appear to be on a phone, nor looking for addresses, just staring over here. Just one guy in a car. I couldn't get a plate number either. Everyone needs to up their security right now. Don't wait. DO. IT. NOW.





  • Cookie
    03/29/2020 at 10:32 AM
    How Many Rolls Of Toilet Paper Do You Use Every Week?

    You have enough toilet paper for a year? What about the older people who can't even get it anymore? Do not be so selfish. This is a serious problem





  • Plainsmedic
    03/29/2020 at 10:31 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    SMG, I very desperately want to be wrong, but I think it will be September-ish before things settle a bit. This is a BIG problem with no easy solutions.





  • DJ5280
    03/29/2020 at 10:26 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    MontanaHome, can I ask which breed of sheep you purchased? My thanks.





  • DJ5280
    03/29/2020 at 10:22 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Congrats on the new baby! Should be fun to snuggle and train that pup. Happy for you!





  • Lauren
    03/29/2020 at 10:01 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I've used those egg cartons as well, but decided they just weren't worth is as most plants grow so fast they get root-bound in the tiny cups. I still have a bunch around for backup, but I find it's easier to just plant in pots and let the plants grow undisturbed for a longer time.





  • Wendy
    03/29/2020 at 9:52 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    SMG, I don't know for sure, of course, but more than likely that sixth-grade teacher was not the one who infected all of the kids and adults. It was probably a kid who infected her and the others. She's just the one who showed the symptoms first. (Not that she didn't then infect others.)





  • Northern Sarge
    03/29/2020 at 9:35 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Just an update from our neck of the woods. The wife and I have been hunkered down for the last 12 days or so. I've been off work for about 4 weeks although last Wednesday my boss called and asked if I wanted to go to the Detroit area for 4 weeks and oversee some planned work there. I politely turned him down and he understands the whole situation. Told him I thought July would be a target date to return to work as we have 2 postponed projects that are scheduled to restart in July. I took advantage of this time off to go through the preps. Discovered a few small holes that have partially fixed through an online order to Amazon. Delivery date is scheduled for April 27 for American products....sheesh! My youngest son has booked off work for holidays and also a scheduled plant shutdown helps him stay home with the wife and my 2 grandsons. My oldest boy who lives about 65 miles away booked of work on Thursday to stay at home with his wife and 3 kids. I'll have to figure out if Facebook video chat will work in my area. Our first try at video over copper telephone lines wasn't very promising. Will sure miss not seeing those grand-kids. I replaced the firing pin in one of my 12 gauges, (sorry gun aficionados and purists,) it's an Eastfield 960 and I'll head out shortly to blast some target loads through it to make sure it fires properly. It's a fun gun to rack and load and I keep it near the front door for uninvited guests. My youngest boy is working on installing automatic fans in the greenhouse. We are using 12 volt engine fans out of an old scrapped car. The controller works fine, just got to get the high/low temperature cut-in/out configured today and the greenhouse will be ready for a new season. I hope everyone in Ken's community makes it through this pandemic and the tough economic times that follow. Stay safe and healthy.





  • Otarn
    03/29/2020 at 9:07 AM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    Good morning , update from Charlotte county Florida. We are doing much better than counties north or south of us. With only 16 cases in our county, Several were from travel into the state. In general people are staying in,the general public is staying home. Not to many people out and about. In the last two weeks we went from 2-16, 100% recovery rate at this time. We do have a high percentage of older population. Be careful, stay home and we will beat this.





  • kevinH
    03/29/2020 at 9:06 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Well, made a grocery store run yesterday, things are getting back to normal, meat case was back to normal, still no paper products or cleaning supplies. Cooking oils were wiped out as well. Flour, sugar and yeast were back, but salt was mostly gone Crowd was closer to normal and people were keeping their distance and being polite. We are under a stay at home order, but I am considered essential, if only I was paid that way! Still only one confirmed case in town, but the entire staff of our local bank branch have all been under quarantine after one met the criteria to be tested, so it's getting real here. My bosses have said that if we stay home they'll lay us off so we'll be able to collect, I'm not quite there yet but I'm getting closer. Well, that's what is going on in the Monadnock region, everyone stay safe out there.





  • me2
    03/29/2020 at 9:03 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Red Dog Master sealed is good I agree however like a Gun Safe Queen during a Robbery does a sealed one in your vehicle help when you when your in Wal-Mart needing a dab of hand sanitizer? Both Sanitizer and defensive weapons need to be useful?





  • me2
    03/29/2020 at 8:53 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    A little Sunday morning musing. I welcome others to share their thoughts. First 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. For those that prefer their wisdom be less bible orientated look to Frank Herbert's book Dune "Fear is the mind killer, I will face my fear and watch it pass until only I am here". Fear paralyzes, Actions to address that fear gets something done but the fear it's self and THE Stress it creates still needs to be addressed. I have noticed inn myself and my peers more and more stress behavior. Loss of sleep (good sleep needed for good Immune System health), irritability (stress and the lack of good sleep), responding to every house creak (need to be aware but what did Kipling say "Always On Guard, Always Unready") as a threat. My 94 year old Mother in Law is almost chanting out loud "She wants God to take her" no matter what we do to encourage her, that lasts but a moment. So my normal Spiritual Support Rock my beloved is very distracted by her death wishes. Dads so mentally out of it he is currently unaware of Mom's death wishes. But that will change soon I expect. When I talk to my beloved I remind her its "Quality of life is all we can offer so maybe the COVID19 quarantine from friends visiting is done?" No we will *still* protect ourselves from blatant contamination but the no visitors rule needs to be relaxed until they both pass I suspect. I am remembering what God requires of us. Micah 6:8 "What does the Lord require of thee O Mortal, to Love Mercy, to Do Justice and to Walk Humbly with your God". Thoughts and advice welcome.





  • Red Dog Master
    03/29/2020 at 8:53 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Roger, I have a couple of small UNOPENED bottles of hand sanitizer that have been in my truck for a couple of years and they are still filled to the max level indicating that nothing has evaporated. Just opened one, smelled it and it had the same alcohol smell of a brand new bottle. After using some on my hands, it evaporated quickly just like new hand sanitizer does, indicating that the alcohol content is still there.





  • me2
    03/29/2020 at 8:21 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Rodger the answer is YES. I keep the hand sanitizer in my pocket along with my ear loop mask replacement (if my first mask gets too wet from breathing). That way when NOT IF I touch something like a bathroom door handle I can give myself a dab of hand sanitizer. I also while my hands are wet from the dab rub the bottle as I DID touch it with dirty hands before I squirted that dab eh? Yes the ear loop is not the best mask but it's better than nothing AND reminds me to keep my hands away from my face. Dirty hands to mucus membranes (And that INCLUDES when you pee folks think about that) is the virus highway into your system.





  • Roger
    03/29/2020 at 7:21 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I keep a bottle of hand sanitizer in my car. With spring now here, my indoor car temperature will reach extreme temps. Is it possible the alcohol may evaporate this weaken the hand sanitizers effectiveness?





  • me2
    03/29/2020 at 7:08 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Lauren in my mini-greenhouses in my sunny bay windows (mostly recycled sliced cheese containers great stuff) I've been using those recycled paper egg cartons as seed-sprout and plant pods. I found if I attempt to tear off the soggy bottom I generally get damage to the tender roots. Damage too much for some plants. So I use a pair of scissors like I do in the Operating Room, push gently in and spread the tips to open the soggy bottom. I find when I re dig my garden later adding compost almost all traces of the egg carton gone while when I used peat pots I always was finding (and still do) bits of the peat pots in my garden soil. Cannot expect to always find those recycled egg cartons if things really go sidewise so I have soil blocks as my backup. A learning curve getting the soil mix right but the ability to plant direct is something I really enjoy. Getting back to the snapped off potato sprouts I will use this method as so I don't disturb the tender roots when I transfer to my potato boxes.





  • rb308
    03/29/2020 at 7:08 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Well sadly the world death toll looks to be following a pattern and doubling every six days. Let’s hope the trend doesn’t continue but if it does that number is going to get ugly over the next several weeks. Everyone stay safe





  • Max & Agent 99
    03/29/2020 at 1:50 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Update: Actually, the funeral home in Wuhan rec'd two shipments of 5000 Urns each per the article "One funeral home even received two shipments of 5,000 urns in just two days, according to a Chinese news outlet, via the New York Post. "





  • Max & Agent 99
    03/29/2020 at 1:46 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Interesting article in todays "DAILY MAIL". Apparently one Funeral Home in Wuhan, China took delivery of 5000 urns today ( for cremation ashes) That number alone surpasses the death toll currently being claimed by china. The article went on to state that thousands of urns are also being delivered to other funeral home through out the city. Keep in mind that Wuhan is one city, population 10 mil (+/-) in a country of 1.5 Bil (+/-). It would stretch the imagination to believe that the Virus was contained only within this one city. What the real number's are is anyone's guess and will probably never be revealed





  • msb-boy
    03/29/2020 at 12:19 AM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    Chinese tourism and Belt and Road workers caused the outbreak in Italy. And the WuFlu seems to be doing well in warm central south New Orleans.





  • Chevy
    03/28/2020 at 11:43 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Here come the scams. I got an email offer of 28 rolls of toilet paper for $280. If they can get that much NRP might soon become a millionaire.





  • Lauren
    03/28/2020 at 11:30 PM
    Flu Symptoms | Duration | Remedies

    I keep seeing this, and people keep passing it to me. The majority of these people would have been in a hospital setting, and what is a hospital going to give people for pain/inflammation? Ibuprofen. Almost without fail. Just because they have IB in their systems doesn't mean it's responsible for anything. I accept it as a possibility, and nothing more without a LOT more information.





  • DAMedinNY
    03/28/2020 at 10:33 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Ken, you are most welcome. We would not have considered them if you had not done the multiple articles explaining the products. We truly appreciate all the help you provide on a daily basis. So thank you so much!





  • Germ-A-Phobe
    03/28/2020 at 10:32 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I ate some boxed mashed potatoes that have been sitting in my pantry for years (best by date was 2016). I was going to toss them, but had second thoughts after seeing the runs on the grocery stores. They tasted a little stale, but were palatable to me with enough butter, salt, and pepper. I didn't get sick at all, so I'm totally going to finish that box off. I have 1 more full box with best buy date from 2018 to take care of after that. I loves me some mashed potatoes!





  • Judy K
    03/28/2020 at 10:31 PM
    Flu Symptoms | Duration | Remedies

    DO NOT TAKE IBUPROFEN FOR THIS FLU. I READ RECENTLY, FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE, THAT THE SURVIVAL RATE IS MUCH WORSE WITH IBUPROFEN. AT LEAST LOOK INTO THE ISSUE.





  • Germ-A-Phobe
    03/28/2020 at 10:23 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Any thoughts from anyone on how long the food supply chain will last? I was just thinking about the average age of truck drivers and how bad this virus is going to hit them. Also, as things get worse, many truckers will likely refuse to deliver in order to stay with their families and/or quarantine themselves. I've also been thinking how long the grocery store workers can hold out. I've not seen any wearing masks at my local stores. I know most grocery stockers are young, but I've been reading about more and more deaths of perfectly healthy young people due to the virus. Lots of after effects to think about with this virus.





  • Stand my Ground
    03/28/2020 at 10:18 PM
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    Wow, getting old "SUCKS." Man am I sore. Today was sewer day, yep, that's right. Monday, they are gonna pump all of our tanks (6). It's a real job, digging up all those lids, getting them lids loose. Plus, we moved our outhouses (Plural), into their assigned positions. Monday, will be the start of my 18th week of quarantine. (Nov 17th to present). I've been to town a couple of times, to the Title Co and Doc. Haven't been anywhere else. Man, was it uncomfortable to go to town. Didn't like that feeling at all, and, I ain't missing nothing. I'm staying on my homestead. Opened some freeze dried veggies, corn, carrots, peas, spuds both mashed and hash-brown, green bean, and celery. Dated 1989, 30yrs, and they were just as tasty, as if they were fresh. Open some tuna in oil, 2001, just fine. Opened pinto beans,2001, they required more time in the pressure cooker, 35 mins instead of 20, but were just fine. Home canned beef, chicken and pork 2001, just fine, smelled as if I had just canned them. I have a person, who goes to the store for me, so I can get supplies. But, until recently, there wasn't much to buy. Now, limits on everything. This stopped the hoarding. Allows us to get some milk, cheese, and other non essential supplies. TPTB are lieing their ass off here. We have 8 confirmed, one was a 6th grade teacher, who has infected 100's of kids and adults, not good at all. Plus, these college kids, all can't get home, because of travel restrictions. They are becoming a problem. It's astonishing how many are addicts, meth, heroin, pot, alcohol. Leo, has their hands full.





  • Germ-A-Phobe
    03/28/2020 at 10:13 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    Saw the same thing yesterday in my state.......Cars lined up down the highway waiting on the bank drive thru windows/ATMs....The after effects of the virus are growing......The dominoes are all starting to fall......





  • Ken Jorgustin
    03/28/2020 at 10:09 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Thank you regarding Iron Edison.





  • Deep South
    03/28/2020 at 9:08 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    People fleeing from a plague is as old as history. New York and New Orleans are two areas that people are fleeing from now. They are running away from danger (they think) but are furthering the spread of the virus. Where do they run to? Areas they think are safe, more rural areas perhaps. The point is they are the current vector for the virus and are on the verge of panic. As most know a panicked person is not rational and can be dangerous in other ways. A lock down of your homestead may be boring to some but the best that can be done at present. I am planting the largest garden I have in years. It will pay off even if the virus goes away tomorrow.





  • Lauren
    03/28/2020 at 9:05 PM
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    @me2 I just used regular garden soil in small pots. The soil was damp, but I watered them from the bottom and put them out in the greenhouse so they got the cooler temperatures. It was more than a week since I planted them--possibly two? I don't think as much as three, but it's possible. I didn't record the date as I should have. They did have root systems within a week, though, since I had too many in small pots and had to repot some of them within a couple days. I planted them in the garden this week.





  • Bogan
    03/28/2020 at 8:59 PM
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    We have a slightly different strategy: Instead of replenishing on the fresh produce and milk, which we COULD do, although at some risk, we are determined to tough it out with our stock on hand and are learning valuable lessons while doing it. Frankly its not too much of a sacrifice at all, and we have three generations under our roof at this time, and for a few months yet! I count my blessings for being at least a smidge more preparedness minded than the numbskulls out there on the web berating "hoarders" for their own lack of toilet paper.





  • MontanaHome
    03/28/2020 at 8:37 PM
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    Haven't been out of the house in two weeks, but that is pretty normal for us. Usually out once a week for volunteer work and errands. Shelter in place for MT went into effect today. I just made a deposit on a starter flock of sheep; a ram, 2 ewes and their lambs. Just need to get the fencing up and then I can pick them up. These are specifically bred for our winters and are a triple purpose mix for meat, wool and milk. Looking forward to learning to make cheese and yogurt. More independent from the system everyday. Can't plant the garden yet, but I've started seeds inside. I am tripling the garden area this year. Wish the last of the snow would melt.





  • Bill Jenkins Horse
    03/28/2020 at 8:15 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    White cracker , Fight or flight response... "Move to live..." Except that response should of been in January.





  • Kulafarmer
    03/28/2020 at 8:15 PM
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    It is such a beautiful, peaceful day, sunny, fairly clear, nice cool breeze, you would never know that the rest of the wotld is falling apart. Interesting times! Feeling very blessed!





  • TXinEP
    03/28/2020 at 8:02 PM
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    Socialized healthcare is not the issue ( and I wish people would stop using it as a boogeyman in healthcare issues all the time). We don't have it in the States, but rest assured, our healthcare system is crappy as it is-NY, NJ etc is a prime example right now). The issue is that medical products like medicine, face masks things too many to name here, are not produced here in the States where we can control the raw materials, the way and type of production (quality control) as well the manufacturing cost after the research-development time and then trials and field testing including a national stock pile which should be rotated and distributed to the public ( medical, first responders, military ). An example: city of 100 000 people has only 5 hospitals with a total of a 1000 beds plus staff ( normal conditions ). Imagine 50 percent got sick and is dying ( Bergamo-Italy has the situation), how can you provide care for 50 000 people being really sick in your city? You can't, because at that point it is irrelevant what kind of care you have, private a la American, or European. No system anywhere on the planet is fully prepared for a pandemic. Mrs. U, this is not an attack on you, but I have lived on both continents, half my life each, under each healthcare system. I do have a different perspective having lived on both sides of the pond, paying taxes. We should all work together, instead pointing fingers and trying to look for who or what to pick as a scapegoat. I guess I am just venting too, like you.





  • Buck Fisher
    03/28/2020 at 7:45 PM
    Coronavirus Is Worse Than You’ve Been Told

    They are mass producing testing kits and a lot more cases are being detected. This increase is an increase in detection, not infection. The way this data is being presented to the public is disgraceful and extremely misleading.





  • 11HE9
    03/28/2020 at 7:42 PM
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    Today was the best day we have had since this crap started. Got a chance to get out on the water and do some fishing. Even though all county and state boat ramps are closed in my county, it pays to know people. Caught a bunch of Snook and saw many other species. Not only did we get some good needed vitamin D from the sun but there were times I honestly completely forgot about the Kung Flu and everything else. Very much needed that!!!! Crazy thing is there were so many boats out on the water you would have never known the boat ramps were closed. Unfortunately saw a couple groups of boats all tied together having a party. Easily 10+ boats which means alot of people congregating together. A&O





  • BS
    03/28/2020 at 7:38 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    Mrs U., Use the search engine DuckDuckGo with the search "south-korea-confirmed-and-suspected-coronavirus-cases" (no quotes) and you should get an article on statista about South Korean statistics. It looks like they have it under control there.. keep an eye on it in the next week. The mortality rate there is falling and is now around 2.5% (139/(4528+139)) and falling (as recoveries rise without further deaths). I am sure that the problem in both Italy and Spain is the weather conditions. Most of the cases and the deaths are still in the North West (COLD & WET) for Italy, and Spain is wet too at this time of year, having a western sea-board climate (wet & windy in the winter). (Italy & Spain were probably not helped by RC communion mass, where they drink wine from a shared around goblet.) You can see the same for the US map at the moment. Cold (North) and wet (West/seaboard - New York) areas are suffering the most. Dry (central eastern) and warm (central south) areas are the least affected, excepting anywhere where the air is so cold that it's completely dry (arctic regions/snow covered mountains). Viruses need humidity and cold to help them survive. Same is true from the secondary bacterial chest infections, that is the real killer here. They like it damp and the cold impedes recovery (as the chest can't dry out). See TB/Pneumonia/Bronchitis for past cures to chest infections before antibiotics were invented.





  • White Cracker
    03/28/2020 at 7:35 PM
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    Seminole you stay safe too... We are over 100 in this county, still cant say if we have a hockey stick curve yet (exponential growth). Those counties that I mentioned are starting to spike for sure know exponential growth is well under way for them...





  • Bam
    03/28/2020 at 7:34 PM
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    Hi All, Do a search for "UF Health anesthesiology team devises respirator mask made from existing hospital materials". They devised a plan for making masks that are better than N-95 respirators from discarded hospital materials (the wrapping that comes on surgical instruments). This is the sort of innovation what will help us get through the pandemic.





  • Paleo
    03/28/2020 at 7:27 PM
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    Let's work on keeping safe and positive. The virus is an envelope virus. That means that it has a kind of fat layer around it. It's not a real strong virus and can be killed by destroying the fat layer. Yes, soap and water or use the next best thing, a hand sanitizer. ( I'm currently using 91% rubbing alcohol with a small bit of aloe vera gel to increase the dwell time.) The primary mode of transmission is when we touch a surface others have touched and then touch the face and the virus comes in contact with a mucus membrane like the mouth area, nose, and eyes. So when we go out, we end up having to touch places where others have touched. Use that hand sanitizer. You can touch thing with, say your elbow. Be creative. If you use gloves treat them like your hands. The most important use of a mask is to keep you from touching your face.





  • Anony Mee
    03/28/2020 at 7:25 PM
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    Couple of nice days this week. Mostly still wintry which here is not much different from spring and fall. Swans flying over. Saw a female gold finch in the yard this morning. Steelhead are running. DFM and friend out for a weekend of fishing and chores. Really appreciate young muscles. To town for greengrocer scraps for pigs a couple times with stops at Safeway and Home Depot. Wearing my N95; no one gave me a second glance. Quite a few masked and/or gloved out and about. Not a lot of folks anywhere. Rescue Mission also saving its veggie and bread scraps for the pigs. I bring them items from greengrocers that are still good, just ugly. Nice relationship developing. Added to deep pantry. Think I have enough for now. This crisis has shown me holes in my long-term preps. Going to work on those. Received sugar beet seed. Also plantain (the weed, not the banana), clover, misc grass seed for pig pasture. Received shipment of homemade soap from a friend. Runt had a bout with low blood sugar a couple nights ago. Looks just like pneumonia but no fever. Thought I was losing her but she recovered. I just don’t pull all-nighters like I used to. Sigh! Old age sucks. Bought a fridge off Craig’s List. Want to stock up on bread, milk, meat, as looks like young fellows may come routinely. Muscle feeds muscle. Speaking of, time to get dinner started for them. Keep Calm and Wash On





  • me
    03/28/2020 at 7:19 PM
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    Mrs. U, Happy Birth Day! Remember when it was don't trust anyone over 30? Now I want a T shirt that says don't trust anyone under 50.





  • Seminole Wind
    03/28/2020 at 7:18 PM
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    Dennis, film at 11? Too funny!





  • Seminole Wind
    03/28/2020 at 7:15 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    Cracker, you just cracked the DW and me up LOL! I have been worried bout y'all down there. Stay safe and pull a cork or two.





  • DAMedinNY
    03/28/2020 at 7:07 PM
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    Wow, another Interesting week while observing stay at home in NY. I still go back and forth to the farmstead and I spent another full day at my friend’s (people empty) cabin attempting to organize and clean a section at a time. I did go to Aldi’s mid week to pickup milk and freshies. I checked stock...they had no paper products, no flour, sugar getting low, pasta low, and limits on what they did have. I have no problem with a store placing limits so their customers can have a chance at the products. I will continue to get groceries while it is somewhat quiet in our area as I am not sure when this will end or how. We had no cases near our county until today. I am sure it will reach here eventually. The good news is my father’s house that sold in early Feb closed this past week. I am so grateful I have a competent spouse that managed things at home well so I could stay and get the house ready for quick sale after my father passed. And an amazing BIL that worked his butt off while still working full time in construction to help me get it ready. That is a load off my mind now and I can complete distributions to my siblings that may help them get better situated before things cave in entirely. This country was on the edge before the stock market hit the skids so this current market just buries us deeper. At some point, TPTB will elect for a reset. Our hens continue to lay about 30 to 32 eggs a day. We lost one meat chicken at one week of age...it happens with these birds. We now have 17 that appear to be doing well. I am hoping my midget white turkeys still arrive the first week of May. We are going to harvest a couple large turkeys and handful of grown male ducks for meat and bone broth to cut down on feed. There has been a huge interest in our hogs lately. The four that were ready for harvest were snapped up immediately. One local guy that has been raising regular show hogs for years was amazed that these guys live outside year round in their huts....and have their little ones without intervention. Spouse has been researching the solar set up and now working with someone at the company and is ready to pull the trigger. I have reminded him to let Iron Edison know we found them through Ken so you get credit however that works and I will make sure they know before we close the deal and pay. Spouse was dragging his feet before but this virus has lit a fire under him. Because of the water shortage at FL stores, my siblings are now ready to use their Sawyer water purifier units we gave them many years ago. They have wells but the water is skanky so they won’t drink it or feed it to their dog or cats. Take care all. You each remain in our prayers. Stay safe, healthy and alert....and remain calm.





  • Pegasus
    03/28/2020 at 6:54 PM
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    An update on the duck eggs. As SMG said, they are yummy! I have been baking with them and everything has turned out great. The ones I got are about twice as big as a chicken egg. I highly recommend them and I am headed back for a bunch more from my neighbor this week. I will also pick up manure for the garden and fruit trees. We are adopting a puppy, should be able to get it on Monday. We have a friend who went to a small town and picked up 2, so one will be ours. We have not had a puppy for over 7 years, so I guess this time period when we are home should provide us with the best-trained dog ever!! Here is to a new security alarm and the loss of sleep for a couple of weeks.





  • White Cracker
    03/28/2020 at 6:51 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Map | USA Locations Of Reported Cases

    Starting to get a little radioactive in Miami-Dade and Broward (ft. Luaderdale) Counties, Over 4000 for the state as I type... Govenor DeSantis wants to have Trump Shutdown all air traffic from the NYC tri state area keep those infested people from flying here on over 100 flights per day landing in our state. DeSantis is Already creating check points to stop N'awlins residents from fleeing their sheet hole urban center and flowing into Florida... Why the hell is everyone fleeing to FL? What we need is a good ol' fashion CAT 4 to rip through the State that should send the roaches back to were they came from.





  • Pegasus
    03/28/2020 at 6:48 PM
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    I agree with your take, Minerjim.





  • me2
    03/28/2020 at 6:47 PM
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    Very cool Lauren just the snapped off sprouts of the potatoes? What did you pot them in? Potting soil? Compost? Dirt? Did you water them or start with damp soil and mist them? I am impressed they had root structures and even tiny potatoes in a week? I want to try that this weekend so I am hoping to find out your details please. Thanks





  • MontanaHome
    03/28/2020 at 6:43 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Great one Dennis- made me laugh!





  • Jane Foxe
    03/28/2020 at 6:34 PM
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    Lauren, very cool. Good to know, thanks for "reporting".





  • Jane Foxe
    03/28/2020 at 6:34 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Joe c very entertaining... (also, good lesson on decontamination, grin. I remember my Mom used to warm donuts in the hot wood stove oven, inside a brown paper bag. Quite possible those old fashioned paper bags were made of actual paper back then, and sterner stuff. (modern paper might well have all sort of scud in it)





  • pinky
    03/28/2020 at 6:34 PM
    People Are Going To LOSE IT When Times Get Tough For Real

    Been kind of busy at work getting ready for this to say much. Moving an entire operation to be able to support remote work that is federally mandated to never be done remotely except in a crisis is a PITA. Anyway, the only thing I've been worried about is ending up in the hospital at the same time as everyone else. Car accident. Chainsaw accident. Any number of stupid things that could end up with my stupid buttocks in the hospital with all the sickies. I'm more worried about the recession that will follow. All the people that have been rolling the dice with medical care since it's mandates lessened by out fearful leader. A lot of medical bankruptcy and maiming of people that do survive being infected. Millions of jobs that might not come back for years. I expect you will see a lot of expensive middle management jobs and white collar jobs disappear that were originally safe due to not being amenable to remote work. Might not be to another country but maybe a cheaper locale. Or any where other cheaper remote workers are like IT did over a decade ago.





  • Antique Collector
    03/28/2020 at 6:24 PM
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    Dennis R O W F L That sir was good!!





  • Joe c
    03/28/2020 at 6:20 PM
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    Jane This comment is for entertainment only....but tis true. So I just returned home from visiting brother. Do you want me to help out on the home fortifications? Nah, got it handled. You know I have extra plywood in the shed. Ohh, that's good to know. Now my brother is a solitude hermit. No built up immunity. So he has been keeping a safe distance from me, as not to expose himself to my 'ailments'..... Well, thru the kitchen window, he shows me my tax information papers, as he's been doing my taxes for years.... slightly charred. I was just trying to decontaminate and forgot about them being in the oven. Hopefully I have all the numbers I need. No beer for you...saith the beer nazi.





  • Farmmom
    03/28/2020 at 6:19 PM
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    I don't know if any of you visit Mike Adams, Health Ranger, Natural News website, but he released a rant today that is .... Woe www.naturalnews.com/2020-03-28-dear-america-you-are-now-living-under-the-tyranny-you-deserve.html Would love to hear some discussion on it.





  • Antique Collector-ACDH
    03/28/2020 at 6:15 PM
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    Mrs. U HAPPY BIRTHDAY 🎈🎈🥂🎂





  • Lauren
    03/28/2020 at 6:10 PM
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    I didn't either, but I figured it would be worth a try. And it worked! When I planted them in the garden this week they all had well developed root systems and some already had tiny potatoes on them.





  • Burt G
    03/28/2020 at 6:10 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Invest in companies that make things, mine things and move things.





  • Caligforeva
    03/28/2020 at 5:53 PM
    How Long Coronavirus Stays on Surfaces | Should We Be Concerned?

    I actually think masks help both ways and this is just what authorities told the public so the stock would be available for the doctors.





  • Dennis
    03/28/2020 at 5:30 PM
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    Breaking news on CNN ___________________ CNN has just learned that Chinese leader Xi Jinping is prepared to release proof that two white American male soldiers wearing red MAGA hats, hangman's nooses draped over their shoulders, screaming racial slurs, and pouring vials of liquid into pots of bat soup in Wuhan City just prior to the outbreak of, what we can now call the Trump flu. This revelation will confirm what our crack team of unbiased former DNC operatives, now expert scientific advisors have been telling us behind the cameras as we've watched this Trump created tragedy unfold. We've been unable to contact Justin Smollett for comment...……………….





  • Antique Collector
    03/28/2020 at 5:09 PM
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    UkTn That is good news to hear from your section of the USA. Welcome believe it is your first time posting here.





  • DAMedinNY
    03/28/2020 at 4:47 PM
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    My sister lives in Fl. She said their governor said he could not stop the people who own homes in FL from coming to stay there.





  • Jane Foxe
    03/28/2020 at 4:44 PM
    Have They Just Found A Cure For COVID 19 Coronavirus?

    leronlimab "Two coronavirus patients in New York ICU were taken off ventilators just DAYS after being treated with an experimental HIV and cancer drug" "A drug in developement for treating HIV and cancer was given to seven critically ill coronavirus patients in New York •Two of them were well enough to be taken off ventilators in a matter of days, and all but one are improving •The drug, leronlimab, has been fast-tracked for HIV by the FDA "





  • Jane Foxe
    03/28/2020 at 4:38 PM
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    Lauren..not to be dense..you actually just snapped off said sprouts and they grew? (therefore still using potato)...Had no idea this would work. thks





  • Jane Foxe
    03/28/2020 at 4:37 PM
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    Joe c...thks...always good to re such info. re checking on him? sure why not....Will foster good will, and you might be able to give him a few tips (if he is "tippable")… and, never know, might get an idea or two