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  • me
    02/27/2020 at 2:08 AM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Ken I will say my experience was about as opposite as you can get. Home Depot yesterday for a couple of packages of AA batteries and a few more N100 masks (our store still has both masks but no bulk packs) and they were running specials on disinfecting wipes. They had NUMEROUS cases in the aisles. I think they are anticipating lots of folks being interested in same. Mao-mart AKA WallyWorld was fairly crowded, It was well stocked except for hand sanitizer. Cleaning supplies were normal but TP was way overstocked, As HD had the cases of wipes Wally had the cases of the other wipes. The shelves were full and there was a double row stacked floor to chest high and that row was probably 30 feet long. Had a talk with my DD who is in a supervisory position at a local acute rehab. She seemed a bit overconfident. Her boss plans on opening a portion of the facility as a day care if the schools close. I kind of impressed on her that their kind of facility is a death trap, Numerous elderly people with many comorbidities. No effective way to isolate them. Minimal personal protective equipment which will quickly be used up with slow to no resupply coming in. A care staff that is rated as skilled care compared to professional care in a nearby hospital that will be at overflow capacity and not able to take the rehab patients who need cute care. I told her they would be having severe staff shortages she replied that showing up for work would be mandatory and that was why they would have the daycare. I told her it is very difficult to get staff to put their lives on the line and especially so for minimum wage. This has the potential true SHTF. On the shopping, I didn't use a mask today and saw no others who were masked. I did pick up three wipes at the entrance. I wiped the cart handle, picked up the products with another wipe and saved the last wipe to swipe my card with after I used it at checkout. The newest case of Covid19 is 350 miles south of me and the transmission looks to have been community acquired. As long as he or she has been sick he or she has probably infected many more. Mask when out from this point. Carry your own wipes, wash hands regularly for at least twenty seconds. If you are using a public restroom use a towel to open the door on your way out. Re-using N95 or 100 masks is not supposed to be done. It will be being done. Hopefully you have enough to rotate them Expose them to sunlight when not being used. I'm looking for approved ways to clean them and haven't found anything yet. Keep them dry! Walking in the rain would ruin one. That's what I would do for me, you folks do as best as you can. All things considered we will do better than the majority of our fellow citizens.





  • Max & Agent 99
    02/27/2020 at 2:06 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Every time there's a shooting somewhere it fires up the gun control debate...below if food for thought from a friend of mine in upper MI A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion: There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin .... Allow me to restate that number: 600,000! Over the last several months, Wisconsin 's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world. (That's more men under arms than in Iran . More than France and Germany combined.) These men, deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin , to hunt with firearms, and NO ONE WAS KILLED. That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan 's 700,000 hunters, ALL OF WHOM HAVE RETURNED HOME SAFELY. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states. It's millions more. The Point? America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower! Hunting... it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security.





  • Bam
    02/27/2020 at 2:06 AM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    DAMedinNY, We didn't got to services tonight. My dh has a heart condition and so is in the high risk category. I just kept thinking about everyone sticking their fingers in the holy water and then touching their faces. I don't even want to think about sharing communion.





  • Max & Agent 99
    02/27/2020 at 1:57 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    If memory serves, Cain rose up and slew Able with a rock, let's ban them next





  • DAMedinNY
    02/27/2020 at 1:02 AM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I did my shopping trip today as we have really bad, close the schools, weather moving in tomorrow. Because I wanted to increase my Sudafed storage, it meant time to hit Wally’s. While there, I checked out the bean isle - they did not have much....about 15% of stock was available. I helped myself to the last two 1 lb bags of lentils and the same for navy beans. Then I went to Aldi’s where I buy my fresh vegetables and dairy products. Their stock was basically fine although flour and sugar were low and so were beans, but they had quite a bit of rice. I shop early in morning before the vampires come out so people traffic was light. I used self check at Wally’s and the helper woman came over to engage me in conversation when she saw I was buying dry beans. She was friendly and interested to know how I cook them so I told her. Later, we attended mass and received our ashes. Our priest stated that we would not share the wine sacrament after tonight because of the corona virus but we are still joining hands for the Our Father prayer. I believe we are in for some seriously bad things coming our way and by the time we physically see how bad, it will be too late to keep the illness at bay.....and that is just one part of the bad things about to happen.





  • tmcgyver
    02/27/2020 at 12:34 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Kula: Nada mucho Jefe. I get prints and doc review from "the girls" over there, hard to tell if they are in office or telecommuting. And I don't want to ask, because their sh*t is monitored and it will cause trouble. No word on who, exactly, is producing what or where. VN is cranking for a couple of our customers, not sure what's happening due north of there.





  • Bam
    02/27/2020 at 12:32 AM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Heads Up: First case of community spread confirmed in California. The man has no travel history to China and no contact with a confirmed case. Given that fewer than 450 people in the U.S. have been tested, this is only the tip of the iceberg. I expect panic shopping to set in over the next 24-48 hours. Remember that Italy went from 3 cases to 100+ cases in three days. My dh and I were in Walmart last night. I can't remember if I posted about it on this site. We were stunned. We live in a medium sized college town in Florida. For the past few years the shelves have been relatively empty. Not last night. They were overstocked with prep items. I have never seen pallets of baby wipes stacked 8 foot in the middle of the isle. Paper goods were stocked on end caps and in pallets in the middle of the isles, as were non perishable foods like ravoli and ramen. We were there to stock up on a few items and to pick up dh's prescriptions. Items in pharmacy that are usually in short supply were completely stocked--items like allergy nose spray, anti-diarrhea pills and alka seltzer cold medicine. I had never seen the store this well stocked and it was only 9 p.m. That's about the time they usually start stocking. There must have been three dozen people stocking the shelves. We asked the check out person, a young college student, if a lot people had been stocking up. She said, "yes"--and then asked if we were getting a hurricane. Another thing that struck us was the contents of people's carts. We saw one man, only 30 or so, who had several bags of rice and beans. Carts were full of prep items. There was a nervousness that I am not accustomed to seeing except when we're expected a hurricane. I do think the masses are becoming aware.





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  • Kulafarmer
    02/27/2020 at 12:24 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    TMac Any news from the far east?





  • tmcgyver
    02/27/2020 at 12:21 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    F'n-A Kulafarmer... Turmeric and Ghee overload. It totally explains the unusually deep orange facial tone with screaming bowel grimace. You're wicked smart with that Occam's Razor ain't ya?





  • Stand my Ground
    02/27/2020 at 12:16 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    hermit us I totally agree with your post. I was gonna post the exact same thing, but yours is better. Thank You





  • Kulafarmer
    02/27/2020 at 12:04 AM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Maybe he had to take a dump He was just in india





  • hermit us
    02/26/2020 at 11:47 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Just some comments re the President's speech. He just got back from India and probably has some time lag - zapps most people's energy for a while. Not the usual spark given his schedule and the serious situation - very sobering. He stated that thinks the virus spread could go either way, better or worse. But, he was optimistic about the 15 cases being treated. He stated that the annual flu took 26 thousand to 69 thousand lives a year. Even China does not come up to these numbers of deaths from the COV yet. He said it is a wait and see situation that he feels they are prepared for as much as possible. He said there will be some economic impact but did not acknowledge the disastrous policies of the past in allowing most industrial production to be sent off shore. I think he was being as honest as he could be, given the information available about a new virus. Tempering his concerns was necessary to avoid panic and violence - many animals in our society would like nothing more than an excuse to run wild.





  • Mrs. U
    02/26/2020 at 10:59 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    It is possible that China is holding these drugs for their own people, maybe?





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 10:59 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    They are "Managing" the release of information. "Hoping" the markets don't crash. Good luck with that...





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  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 10:58 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    They've apparently changed back to 6% with their most recent formulas. Not too much difference when it comes to water purification. I cover the differences in my referenced articles.





  • Mrs. U
    02/26/2020 at 10:58 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I looked at Mountain on Amazon 2 days ago and the shipping was several weeks. I ended up with a case of B&M canned Brown Raisin Bread and some whole powdered milk. I like the brand called Judee's. It is USA milk and sold on Amazon. Still waiting on my Augason order.





  • Grits
    02/26/2020 at 10:56 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Everyone take a moment. Do a search for “community spread” It’s being reported in every newspaper and news source. New case, with no known source. The patient has not been out of the country and has not been in contact with any known carriers of the disease. This is a community spread case in California. The patient could have contracted it anywhere. Does this mean it is officially among us? I knew this would happen when they started allowing people to self quarantine! Someone obviously went out!





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 10:55 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Yes, most long term food suppliers seem to have a 2 - 4 week lead time right now.





  • Chevy
    02/26/2020 at 10:55 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I've been to a major grocery store in the closest city, a smaller local one, a dollar store nearby and there were no shortages of anything, very well stocked. Even a rack full of medical masks. Nobody around here is talking about, or even hardly aware of the epidemic. Local TV news broadcasts do not get much viewership and there are no local newspapers. Radio reception is poor and internet use is primarily for email and Facebooking with family, and that doesn't happen too often. But on the other hand, most people around here have adapted to remote environment and are pretty well stocked. Also a lot of gardening, fishing and hunting. We're all set for the long haul. Our trips to the local grocery store is primarily for visiting.





  • Mrs. U
    02/26/2020 at 10:53 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    We went to wally today and yes, their Equate brands of Tylenol and Ibuprofen were almost empty also! Only bottles left were the more expensive type. The rest of Wal Mart was full enough.





  • Dennis
    02/26/2020 at 10:49 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Pandemic | So Much Worse Than You Know…

    Bill Jenkins Horse, Actually, my hypothetical was directed at those who do live in cities. Me? I live over 25 miles from the closest place that I could spend a dollar, over 90 miles from a town with over 2,500 population, five miles off the closest paved road, and have Nation Forest on two sides. Reckon they would run out of martial law enforcers long before they get close to my place. Would cramp my style a little though. I try to make it to town at least once a month to replenish my stocks and satisfy my weakness for a Sonic burger, onion rings and a chocolate shake.





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  • Pegasus
    02/26/2020 at 10:47 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I just got my 2 day delivery from Amazon of boot laces! I guess I am ordering the wrong things to notice a difference. Or maybe my laces were made in the USA!





  • Grits
    02/26/2020 at 10:44 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I said curious, not courageous. 😝





  • NRP
    02/26/2020 at 10:43 PM
    Water Barrel Storage For Emergency

    Again... No, concrete is not going to seep into a plastic barrel. Please think about the question. FYI. Do you really expect a chunk of "concrete" to appear in the barrel??? UGH think about the question before running out to the net and giving false information. Again read and think what the question asked....





  • Pegasus
    02/26/2020 at 10:43 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    As Ken's link suggests, most disinfectants work by being put on wet and staying wet for anywhere from 2 to 10 minutes, then being air dried or wiped down. It is NOT just a single wipe/swipe and you are good. Make sure to read the directions....sometimes those pre-moistened wipes will not leave enough product to stay wet for the correct amount of time.





  • So Cal Gal
    02/26/2020 at 10:37 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    NRP and all, I did not get to watch with sound (was in the office with no way to do anything but watch and read the highlights as Fox added headlines under the picture). I thought his body language looked all wrong, and his expression. Both when speaking and when standing behind others. He did not look sincere or comfortable to me at all - and this man is used to being in front of a crowd. I am used to him being very forthright, even blunt. This looked forced. And we are "very,very prepared" even as we struggle to find care facilities for the infected people we took off the cruise ship? And we don't have working test kits for all but a few states? It makes no sense. I also felt worse after he finished than before. Was he trying to look extra-presidential? Was he uncomfortable with the science? Was he not being his usually brutally honest self and so out of sorts with the message? Did anyone else get a different impression?





  • MontanaHome
    02/26/2020 at 10:34 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I thought it seemed VERY odd as well. Very stilted and uncomfortable, not his normal self.





  • Chevy
    02/26/2020 at 10:34 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Recent articles have said most people don't have enough money to make it from payday to payday. If so, they are not going to have any spare change to buy a bag of beans. But there's always enough to play the lottery.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 10:32 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Ken Yes, thanks. I wasn't very clear to you or me2, typing in between chores and argumentative critters. Only place I get peace....in the barn.





  • Pegasus
    02/26/2020 at 10:32 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    We used to be able to get the 8.25% in our area, but for the last 2 years we have only been able to find 6%. So just change the ratio to fit 6%.





  • NRP
    02/26/2020 at 10:31 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I wonder how Amazon is fairing with shipping to and fro China shut down ??? Just food for thought





  • Pegasus
    02/26/2020 at 10:30 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    The bleach bottle will tell you the % on the label. Regular Chlorox and generic Wally World is 6%. You can use that as your base.





  • 3rdMan
    02/26/2020 at 10:23 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Mountain House is no longer showing sold out on Amazon. They are now showing available, but not shipping until March 16.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 10:22 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Sage Where ya been, .....besides Walmart? Missed ya





  • NRP & Blue
    02/26/2020 at 10:22 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Grits: Is it not courageous, I have never heard a Presidential Conference talking about "a flu thing". Remember Ebloi, Swine flu, SARS, and all the rest??? Why now, Why the Beer-Virus???? Sorry I don't believe a single word from the .gov about this. Call me a Wacko fine... BUT there are millions upon millions of people in the US of A that also are scared to death. Hence. I'm shutting down. Going to get 3 more rolls of TP and 5 pounds of dog food and thats it





  • FYI
    02/26/2020 at 10:21 PM
    Water Barrel Storage For Emergency

    Bam. Yes it can. This is a copy of a quick search. Concrete attracts fluids and ‘bleeds’. Anything that has been on or in that concrete will find its way into your plastic water barrel.





  • Pegasus
    02/26/2020 at 10:19 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Well I thought I had everything we needed, but had to make the hour long trip to Walmart to get oil and car maintenance supplies. I picked up a prescription that this month is 22% more expensive than last month. Went to Trader Joes too to get some special treats along with preps and the cashier asked me if I was stocking up! I told her a few recipes I was making so I did not answer her question. One of my friends who is not of the same mindset (yes I have some libby friends) just got a job at another Walmart as a stocker. It will be interesting to hear what she has to say in a few days.





  • Sharon
    02/26/2020 at 10:19 PM
    Food To Survive Pandemic During Quarantine | At Least 90 Days

    What is the recipe for the bread? Can you make it without a bread machine?





  • tmcgyver
    02/26/2020 at 10:15 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    NRP - You nailed it... reading between the lines. You also said you listened to it, I watched it, and couldn't figure out President Trumps odd body language. At some points when he was standing behind other speakers, he seemed to be silently mouthing answers the speakers were giving, as if it had all been rehearsed. His speaking wasn't natural either, somewhat halting; eyes darting around. Something is not right. He normally rocks that podium in total command; he seemed lost there tonight; hustled back behind the curtain fairly quickly too.





  • NRP
    02/26/2020 at 10:10 PM
    Water Barrel Storage For Emergency

    Bam: Seriously Concrete leaching though plastics into water in a barrel? Please think about what you just asked.





  • Grits
    02/26/2020 at 10:03 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I agree NRP. It’s curious, but just after the press briefing I found an article about the first case of community spread COVID-19 in California. As in, the patient has had no travel to any infected country, nor had any contact with anyone who has. This is a case that comes directly from the community with no known source. I posted a link earlier, but it’s hung up in Ken’s link filter. 😬😆





  • NRP
    02/26/2020 at 9:59 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    PS: Safeway has Strawberries on sale for $2.oo a pound.





  • NRP
    02/26/2020 at 9:56 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    My 3 cents worth, This is the very first time I have not trusted the man I voted for and would stand beside. I listened to most it President Trumps speech/conference. I believe he is one of the best Presidents EVER and has done so much for America and the world. For me I listened between the lines, one time he would say "we got this covered" next he would say for Schools, people, others to be prepared. NEVER has there ever been a cercomstance where the President has sent such a mixed message. Honestly I'm more concerned now than yesterday. BUT just my opinion. You all do as you need.... Im going to level 4. PS: Blue said "get mote Dog Food & TP"





  • Bill Jenkins Horse
    02/26/2020 at 9:51 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Pandemic | So Much Worse Than You Know…

    Dennis, I would look up your particular states pandemic flu plan and read it. You will find answers to some of your hypothetical questions. Martial law and quarantine are hand in hand in those plans. It really is worth reading now. Quite frankly, I personally would be packed and ready to leave at a moment's notice if I had a BO location to go to. Either that or take it there now. It's better to jump a day early than trying to escape a day late...





  • MontanaHome
    02/26/2020 at 9:49 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Walmart in MT always has empty shelves in places and the next week it's empty shelves in different places. Like they short one area every week. Anyway, today was no different than normal. Every aisle had some stock. Canned goods looked low, might be because I picked up 8 cases of beans, tomatoes, soups, etc. I also hit Smith's (local grocery) who has awesome loss leaders every week. I picked up 30 boxes of cereal for $1.49 each.





  • MadFab
    02/26/2020 at 9:45 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Nice to see you sage. Hope all is well with ya. Peace MadFab





  • Peanut
    02/26/2020 at 9:43 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I know I said I wasn't going to any store, but I realized I no longer had a clothesline in my supplies. We had it packed away for just in case and actually ended up using it for something else. So I too decided to make a quick run to Walmart real early before the crowds showed up. When I got there, the parking lot was fuller than I usually see it at that time of the morning. Since I was already risking my health just by being there, I figured I would check out the shelves. This is a Super Walmart where they restock overnight. So, I found no shortages in the food aisles or the cleaning, and tp aisles. I can't say about the over the counter medications as I avoided the pharmacy side where sick people could be hanging out waiting for prescriptions. From what I could tell, the people in this area have not woken up yet to the possibilities. I did do a couple of orders on-line. The orders came in two days even though the message I got when I put in the order was that I would receive one order in about 5 days and the other in 10 days. Maybe on-line retailers are rushing to fill orders quickly before everything comes to a screeching halt.





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 9:42 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    It is kinda funny how store-bought "bottled water" is not as pure as people think... A Berkey Water Filter System is no doubt (in my opinion) much cleaner/purified water than what you buy in the store. Plus you get ~6,000 gallons on a set of filters...





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 9:39 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Yes, preparedness food suppliers are getting tight with their sources. Evidently, enough people are ordering food supplies to create a supply-and-demand issue. That's how it works. And unfortunately (but logically) a result tends to be higher prices for products in demand.





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 9:35 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Yep, it's all about forecasting and their normal stocking of shelves. During ordinary times (which have persisted for quite some time), smooth and steady supply chains have enabled a nicely tuned supply chain system. Time will tell how well adapted this system is to hiccups. Or worse...





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 9:33 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Yep, it's definitely cold & flu season. And Walmart (and other stores) forecasting will pre-order and stock associated products accordingly (to forecast). Hopefully the blip that I saw is just that. A slight blip in forecast. We'll see what others say what they are seeing, and of course we will all see what happens as the future unfolds in front of us. I hope all this is a nothing burger. Though my gut says otherwise. Especially knowing how much product does come from China. And the apparent unfolding pandemic.





  • Kulafarmer
    02/26/2020 at 9:29 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Ken, Something i have noticed about our local stores, they generally only stock once a day, fill a bin or row and when thats gone it gets re stocked the next day. I suppose it could get done during the day, but Target and Wallmart generally only once a day in the morning. All part time workers, all just stocking for 4-5 hours a day





  • old lady
    02/26/2020 at 9:29 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I was on line and noticed the kit for 1 person for 1 year at $2400 was sold out! As were other big kit items. I found out old man's allergy cream from the pharmacy at wally world was low- didn't think to tell me so I have to make a run there. 2 hours to wally world and it is one of the real small ones. On a good day they are low on items.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 9:28 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Thus we hoard to protect those preps. We did not bust our a&$es to climb though over taxations, failures, loss of life, headaches, heartaches to just hand over everything, for the greater good. Hell, no. My house will not be a subsidized complex for a 4 family housing development of illegals, nor .gov eminant domain, nor my raised, fed , cared for livestock,or band-aided farm equipment be given up to Anyone. Without a bloody fight. ......NEVER Ain't a Threat..... Just a Promise





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 9:24 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Joe c, The article that I referenced includes suggested bleach-water ratios for disinfecting surfaces (not drinking water purification). Disinfectant Bleach-Water Ratio If you want to know about (water purification with bleach), refer to the following article, "Bleach-Water Ratio for Drinking Water" Hope that helps you...





  • Grits
    02/26/2020 at 8:58 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Horse The sheeple herd generally prefers bottled water. They’re either oblivious to, or don’t care, that it has been proven that bottled water is dirtier, more contaminated, and not regulated as much as tap water is. (/shrug) Kinda like the idiots that run out for milk and bread during emergencies. What are they planning to make? A bowl of soggy bread or a cup of lumpy milk? Factory bread has no nutritional value and store bought milk is almost water.





  • Sage
    02/26/2020 at 8:58 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    In Walmart today, bleach isle, wiped out, bulk rice, empty, 5# macaroni, empty. Ground turkey, empty, I bought cases to can, caused that deficiency. Paper products, fluffed out to appear full.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 8:51 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    It is not so much the phase of: I'm from the government. I'm here to help. But that of I'm from the government. I'm here to take.





  • Sunstate boy
    02/26/2020 at 8:51 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    We get in 2-4 trucks per day and something like 90% of our OTC stuff comes from China. No shortages in shipments yet but a big uptick in people buying meds and vitamins. A lot of colds and flu going around. TP and other stuff are in full supply. Talking with other friends in store most aren’t worried yet. The Donald said all is well and not much too worry about. It’s just the flu!





  • Horse
    02/26/2020 at 8:45 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Still, I never will understand the water thing.. are people just stupid ? What happened to the fluid coming out of the kitchen sink..





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 8:30 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I didn't mean just water purification... I meant for a "normal everyday" bleach use.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 8:26 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    me2 No not Patriot Nurse. A Dr. Bones and nurse Amy web site. Ken, This article was for eliminating surface viruses as the Corona. Not for our everyday bleach use as of water purification. And as TMac posted this Germicidal Bleach has a higher bleach content. Was just wondering if it were true or hype. Or up regular bleach use and not dilute for surfaces, not water consumption.





  • NWMitten
    02/26/2020 at 8:26 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Took the 2 1/2 hour round trip drive to Costco today. They seemed to have everything they typically carry however it appeared the stock selection of each item had been downsized. The area for the items were full, but the area of the display was smaller than normal. My thoughts were that maybe they are holding back items to make them last a little longer. Is that just wishful thinking?





  • White Cracker
    02/26/2020 at 8:24 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Places you can check out and get a lot of good supplies if your are not quite topped off yet.... Comon you should be topped off right? 1. Gordon Foods 40lbs of chicken breast for $36 order online and pickup in store. Also gallon jugs of soy sauce, beans rice what ever they got it in #10 cans. I think #10 Sausage gravy was on sale last week. 2. $1 per 320z shelf stable homogenized milk in carton at the Dollar Tree 3. Cheap OTC and medical supplies, tooth paste for $1 each at Dollar Tree like Peroxide, stretch wraps. 4. Online ordering at this point is a good way to go. Costco amazon wally world etc. 5. NRP's homestead for toilet paper 😛😛 We all know he has some. Can't bury it all dude.





  • Stand my Ground
    02/26/2020 at 8:08 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    President Trump press conference; We're from the Gov't, don't worry we got this, and we are to help. Nothing to see here, move a long. Not one bit of info that could or will help anybody, except, lets throw billions of dollar at this, so ll the thieves can get more money.!! I'm soooo sick of this shit.!!





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 7:50 PM
    Water Barrel Storage For Emergency

    A thing? No, not in my opinion regarding water storage for emergency / preparedness. The key is having water. Period.





  • Grits
    02/26/2020 at 7:49 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I did the same thing at the supermarket the other day! 😝





  • me2
    02/26/2020 at 7:49 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    White Cracker and Joe c, AND folks wonder why I relate stories of my Grandparents having to HIDE their farm production in Weimar Germany and the USA during the Great Depression. Yes the US Government was grabbing food and livestock during the Great Depression. They cannot take what they do not know about. They can only take what they can find. Having real friends that will help you hide important stuff is a great way not to be cleaned out my a say "Red Flag" or "Anti-Hording Team". Money can disappear in an electronic flash, stuff hidden is hard to steal, skills they cannot take, true friends are truly Priceless. If the economic situation gets bad enough we may have to decide what homes have to be lost as they families circle the wagons economically.





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 7:47 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Hopefully this will hep with your concern, Disinfectant Bleach-Water Ratio





  • White Cracker
    02/26/2020 at 7:41 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Ha Ha Ha! I was a Costco last week saw all of the seniors hacking out a lung and did an about face and di di maued the hell out of there!





  • me2
    02/26/2020 at 7:41 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    According to Google Fu normal bleach percentage is around 5% Clorox Ultra is 8% 1-10 ratio bleach to water for ten minutes wet exposure works in my Hospital and I am pretty sure it's not premium bleach. If your concerned that your bleach is weak then change the ratio to maybe 1 part bleach to 8 parts water? If the bleach is really old like as barely smells of bleach well..... Shelf life of bleach is 6 months "Highly Effective" and 9 months fine for "home use" (Their terms not mine) Some sites say up to a year if stored in a cool location. Maybe I need to look at Nurse Amy (The Patriot Nurse?) YouTube sometime.





  • Uncle B
    02/26/2020 at 7:37 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Just left Walmart, and it was crazy. I too, went to get last minute supplies. I needed a new thermometer, since the one under the tongue takes to long. The paper goods and meds were close to being bare, cleaning supplies were not to far behind. I can not imagine when the sickness does begin to show its self. I have a sister in the medical field and her hospital has to send out the medical swab to determine if Corona Virus is suspected to CDC. She said other surrounding hospitals have to do the same. Going to hit the $hit fan soon. Be ready, God bless you all..





  • White Cracker
    02/26/2020 at 7:36 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    My father was a small boy in East Germany during the iron curtain.. He told me stories, the communists would come to his home. His Mother had land and would produce wheat, but a meager harvest enough to last them for the year. The Scum commie government would take half of the wheat for the "people" They would take half of their pigs. My grandfather got them out. My dad and his brother and mom in the bottom of a supply truck leaving for West Germany.. My Grandfather went over the wire himself... The only good communist is a dead one....





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 7:32 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    And to continue with Bliz..... "Intentional virus" These years of 2021 and 2030 are short coming. The Globalists Agenda. Do the Financial Institutions, the township tax assessor's care that I'm/you're unemployed because of docked shipping containers that hold vital material for production?, not being able to get parts for my/your farm equipment, with spring planting and having no future income? Will they give me/you a break? Heed my/our desperation?Forgive my mortgage? Will my/our tax assessor forgive my/our summer land taxes? Or will he just continue to hike them? Nah Both entities are just wanting/expecting that bankruptcy, foreclosure. Do they care that you/me will now reside in any $hittown of like resemblance of a Portland, San Fran, Detroit, Chicago? Hell, no. That's what their ALL hoping for. And all that now .gov controlled farmland.... will be for the greater good What is yours, IS for the Globalists.





  • Bam
    02/26/2020 at 7:23 PM
    Water Barrel Storage For Emergency

    I have read that concrete can leach into the water thru a blue water barrel. Is this really a thing?





  • D B Cooper
    02/26/2020 at 6:55 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Wife just got home from work and tells me she was telling a coworker yesterday how I’m giving her the latest news about the virus 🦠 Coworker comes in today and says “your husband is right nobody is going to be ready for this / stay home for 2 weeks “. My wife just smiled and said we can and told she better go to the store on her way home





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 6:44 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Bliz Intentional? Yes, actually. At first, I thought it to be hyped $hit. Then comes changed/hidden info. Now the same info of different states is being let out, by almost mimicking. Who has the largest outbreak outside of China? I don't know. Yesterday it was Skorea. Today, Iran and Italy want to claim second prize. IMO, it is not 'the virus'. It is the convenience of the outcome of the virus. Covering up food shortages, grounded shipping containers of product, restricted air travel, fall of the Dow, election year, People in China cannot fish, eat their own crops....it all belongs to their .gov now. As with the Big O's improved EO, (paraphrasing). .,..In the time of need for this country.... Your food is Ours, your land, water rights, livestock, farm equipment, etc Ours





  • Grey
    02/26/2020 at 6:40 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Alma Seltzer? It's Alka Seltzer. HTC is OTC. Northeast, time for a G&T, or Woodford on ice, or two.🥃🖖🐖😴





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 6:36 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I do agree that ordering online (i.e. via amazon for example) is a better idea in general.





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 6:33 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    ...and no doubt (duh) it was the fault of "the gun". At least that's how it will be spinned. Fortunately, my guns don't shoot by themselves! (Must be special guns). (/sarc)





  • Grey
    02/26/2020 at 6:31 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Was at the Wally World 2/26 early today, only went to the HTC meds area. Was stocked up, just didn't have the versions I wanted. (Alma Seltzer Original and Halls cough drops to increase some stuff), not very busy but it was 8:30 a.m. Hit the Uncle Sam's Club, more TP (never enough), trash bags. Store was well stocked. Hit the Northeas supermarket chain, more people stocking than shopping, store was inventory full. So far, quiet over here, but I live in the pucker brush and the stores are a 1/2 hour drive, not a dense population area. Probably will take something to happen in state to ring the awareness bell. Similar to what other folks have written, people will wake up when it's too late. Seemed slower than normal in stores here, but it's Wednesday and I'm retired and early bird and it's typically quiet.





  • Ken Jorgustin
    02/26/2020 at 6:30 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    tmcgyver, No, you are a braver man than I -- going to China via your business ;) Though I do understand it is your livelihood! (tough call)





  • aka
    02/26/2020 at 6:27 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Oh- the Augason Farm section was completely empty.





  • aka
    02/26/2020 at 6:26 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Did my main WM shopping to day and there are lots of bare spots but they are also rearranging the store so it is impossible to know if it's 'outs' or what. They have no decaf Folgers not even a spot on the shelf.





  • tmcgyver
    02/26/2020 at 6:25 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Trump's presser has been delayed 30 minutes. Hmmm.





  • Maggie's farm
    02/26/2020 at 6:21 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    WM here today 5 gal water bottles gone, tp low thinner on some isles. Looked at Nido dry milk first two cans said sell by Jan 2019! Really.bought some Wal-Mart brand dry milk instead. Long term food co. I use says 35 times normal orders with up to 28 day shipping delay, usually 2 days.Took real beating last two days on Iras .I think this is going to be the $#%& Event I have worried about for years. And I still cannot persuade my 45 yr old kids to prep.OMG. Good luck all.





  • tmcgyver
    02/26/2020 at 6:21 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Regular bleach is 4-5%, the germ stuff is 6.75%, if I recall correctly





  • tmcgyver
    02/26/2020 at 6:20 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Joe c - Your buddy's buds Miller and Coors had a rough day. How about a nice German Hefe?





  • hermit us
    02/26/2020 at 6:20 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Why risk the exposure at wally world or any store when you can still order from Costco. We ordered two packs of both TP and paper towels, detergent, nuts, and more ... monday afternoon and it was delivered today. Free delivery. I'll save my gas and stay relatively isolated. Not sure of any chance of contamination from the goods, but a risk I am still willing to take for now.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 6:16 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    AC Lol We have some chocolate somewhere if you need more! Hell, even as a teen/young adult knew these free trade pacts would bomb this nation. I guess that's why I'm not in politics/management Stupidity, greed is more the culprit. ....and don't forget, point the finger......away from thyself..... destroy ALL evidence.....lie (I may beat ya to that chocolate!)





  • me2
    02/26/2020 at 6:08 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Does it matter Bliz? Aside from Chinese deniable blow back the results for you and I are going to be about the same. A serious interruption of the Just In Time System and a LOT of economic trouble as jobs shut down and bills still have to be paid. This morning at 0900 EST I visited my local Wal-Mart all was quiet. While I was driving my lady to a Dr. apt NPR was talking about the NY Times CDC article. I stopped at BJ's on the way home quiet-normal. Tomorrow early I will venture back out to Wal-mart to see if any craziness occurred in my area in New England. We are a bit more used to disasters as Nor'easters snowstorms with power outages are common here but in about 14 hours I shall know and report. Don't need anything but can always find some extras.





  • fireswamp
    02/26/2020 at 6:06 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    So -on valentine's day I went on auguson farms site and ordered the butter ($18)/milk ($17)and powdered cheese ($25) and I can tell you that the price is definitely up today on their site. I have not been in the stores just yet-it's Long Island so it's always busy ( usually the panicked milk/bread/eggs craze is for pre-winter storm and we've had unusually mild weather) will see how the rest of the week pans out because the news noted none in NYS but there was still test results pending for ONE person in Nassau Co (I'm sure if that turns out positive- then there may be more or a reaction) Let's also put it into perspective as FYI from the official NY State link (this is what they send doctors and I believe is available for public info) The New York State Department of Health (NYSDOH) collects, compiles, and analyzes information on influenza activity year round in New York State (NYS) and produces this weekly report during the influenza season (October through the following May).1 Weekly Influenza Surveillance Report During the week ending February 15, 2020 • Influenza activity level was categorized as geographically widespread2. This is the 12th consecutive week that widespread activity has been reported. • There were 14,270 laboratory-confirmed influenza reports, a 17% decrease over last week





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 6:05 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    The subject of bleach. FWTB said last night, looking over my purchase of bleach. This is will not suffice. Bleach is bleach, right? That's what all the sites say. Get stocks of bleach to disinfect for said virus. As per nurse Amy, there is a Germicidal Bleach and the common household disinfectant bleach. Input?





  • D B Cooper
    02/26/2020 at 6:02 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    Joe It’s disgusting how they keep us in the dark until they can’t any longer Have a feeling the U S is going to be changing to red as fast as China did on the tracking map





  • Antique Collector
    02/26/2020 at 6:02 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Joe c When businesses were granted cheap labor by the g o v idiots from back during the time of Nixon forward. This is what occurs, all the manufacturing business put their eggs into one basket. That basket has indeed had issues for many years, and Americans have begged for those businesses to return to our native soils. Yet the g o v back door bank accounts, which were being replenished by any a means possible, kept America tied to this symbiosis. When the borders opened up to China, it was a demo RAT congress. As they had to approve the treaty for doing business with that country. How many of the original thieves are left in Con I de gress, do not recall. My mom said we as a nation would come to regret that posturing move. Look where we are now! Quagmire up to our eye balls in cheap crap, in more ways than one. I need a lot a chocolate right now!! Pass the swimming pool full of cream, it is need also. grrr(not at you)





  • Grits
    02/26/2020 at 6:00 PM
    COVID-19 Coronavirus Pandemic | So Much Worse Than You Know…

    Normally I don’t pay much attention to the New York Post, but we actually just discussed this topic here on MSB not too long ago. 😁 From the New York Post: CDC warns men about facial hair dangers as coronavirus spreads https://nypost.com/2020/02/26/cdc-warns-men-about-facial-hair-dangers-as-coronavirus-spreads/ The information is helpful, but not complete and could get people infected and/or killed. There are so many people out there that don’t know the masks are disposable and they’ll run out and buy one for each member of their family thinking they only need one. They’re not telling people how to don/doff masks properly so they don’t potentially contaminate themselves in the process. Sure, shaving properly is important to get a good seal, but wearing the same mask for several hours for several days in a row and not handling them properly can be as dangerous and maybe even more dangerous than not wearing a mask at all. By the way, ask a construction worker how many masks they go through and how hard it is to breathe wearing one for any extended period of time while sanding drywall or installing insulation. Average people are going to be taking them on and off throughout the day to get some fresh air possibly contaminating their hands and/or face. And kids will constantly be playing with them, if you find them in their size that is.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 5:59 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    I hope my good Buddy Weiser is okay.





  • Bliz
    02/26/2020 at 5:59 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    Do you think this virus outbreak was intentional?





  • So Cal Gal
    02/26/2020 at 5:59 PM
    Coronavirus Pandemic Affecting Walmart? | What I Just Noticed…

    I did not go to Walmart, but I did just get back from a lunchtime grocery store run (Albertsons, which is a Safeway brand store). Plenty of everything there: tp, pt, Kleenex, otc meds, canned goods, boxed foods, cleaning and disinfection items, even sale items had plenty of stock. What I did notice was more people than usual, some with cartfuls (unusual at lunchtime). However, no one had cases of water or paper goods in their carts... just large food purchases. I would have expected to see a few bare spots on shelves, or people buying more water and tp, but not at all. Maybe the local target and Walmart are busy, but I am done with the big box stores for now - made my last 2 target runs last week.





  • Joe c
    02/26/2020 at 5:57 PM
    Open Forum & Off-Topic Conversation

    DB Cooper Was thinking of you yesterday. Good to see you post. I didn't realize you were Ohio. I saw this morning Ohio made their announcements as in the form of Michigan. Almost the same MO. That dang cruise ship and China travelers.